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Is a bigger monitor such as 32 inch compared to 27 inch better suited for 4k gaming and watching movies or is it just a personal preference? I would love to buy a 27 inch since I find the 30 inch a bit to big... But if the visual quality and feeling if you may feels better then I am unsure..

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Depends on how far you sit away from your monitor, 27" is about 70cm wide and 32" is about 90 or so cm wide.

 

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Just now, Minibois said:

Depends on how far you sit away from your monitor, 27" is about 70cm wide and 32" is about 90 or so cm wide.

 

50 cm. Further is better ?? 

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In my opinion 27 inches are fine for 1440p, since you're getting higer pixel account might as well make use of it and enjoy a bigger screen carrying acceptable pixel density.

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Just now, zindan said:

50 cm

IMO at that distance, 32" is just way too big.

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Just now, Minibois said:

IMO at that distance, 32" is just way too big.

hahah yeah :D That's what I'm saying:P So 27 is just just nice and dandy then ? 

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4 minutes ago, zindan said:

I find the 30 inch a bit to big

There's never too big when pixel density is good, only when it starts pixelating and such that it is an issue, trust me I had similar feeling when I decided to upgrade from a 22inch 1680x1050p monitor to the 29'' 2560x1080p one, might be all to big who knows but I got used to it so fast I don't think it should be something to be concerned about.

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2 minutes ago, zindan said:

hahah yeah :D That's what I'm saying:P So 27 is just just nice and dandy then ? 

I sit just about a 80cm from my desk and I am personally going with 27", because I feel like anything above that is just overkill in terms of size.

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IMO 32" is the minimum for 4k even at a 50cm distance from the screen if you want to actually take advantage of the extra pixels and not use scaling.

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11 minutes ago, Minibois said:

IMO at that distance, 32" is just way too big.

yes, I use my 32inch at about 80CM

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15 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

yes, I use my 32inch at about 80CM

 

21 minutes ago, WereCat said:

IMO 32" is the minimum for 4k even at a 50cm distance from the screen if you want to actually take advantage of the extra pixels and not use scaling.

What does that mean? if I use scaling? what am I doing? :P

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2 hours ago, zindan said:

 

What does that mean? if I use scaling? what am I doing? :P

With very high PPI you need to use scaling (make things appear larger because they will be too small on the screen) which defeats the purpose of taking advantage of the bigger screen real estate.

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48 minutes ago, WereCat said:

With very high PPI you need to use scaling (make things appear larger because they will be too small on the screen) which defeats the purpose of taking advantage of the bigger screen real estate.

 

3 hours ago, Daniel Z. said:

yes, I use my 32inch at about 80CM

 

3 hours ago, Minibois said:

I sit just about a 80cm from my desk and I am personally going with 27", because I feel like anything above that is just overkill in terms of size.

 

3 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

There's never too big when pixel density is good, only when it starts pixelating and such that it is an issue, trust me I had similar feeling when I decided to upgrade from a 22inch 1680x1050p monitor to the 29'' 2560x1080p one, might be all to big who knows but I got used to it so fast I don't think it should be something to be concerned about.

Hmm maybe a 1440p 27 inch then? Feels like 2k and 4k is a huge difference and that I am loosing so much if I choose 2k over 4k :/ maybe I can get used to a30 inch ?

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55 minutes ago, WereCat said:

With very high PPI you need to use scaling (make things appear larger because they will be too small on the screen) which defeats the purpose of taking advantage of the bigger screen real estate.

 

3 hours ago, Daniel Z. said:

yes, I use my 32inch at about 80CM

 

3 hours ago, WereCat said:

IMO 32" is the minimum for 4k even at a 50cm distance from the screen if you want to actually take advantage of the extra pixels and not use scaling.

 

3 hours ago, Minibois said:

I sit just about a 80cm from my desk and I am personally going with 27", because I feel like anything above that is just overkill in terms of size.

 

3 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

There's never too big when pixel density is good, only when it starts pixelating and such that it is an issue, trust me I had similar feeling when I decided to upgrade from a 22inch 1680x1050p monitor to the 29'' 2560x1080p one, might be all to big who knows but I got used to it so fast I don't think it should be something to be concerned about.

https://www.elgiganten.se/product/datorer-tillbehor/bildskarm/AC28XB281HKBM/acer-predator-xb281hk-28-datorskarm-gaming What about this 28 inch? Won't be so different from the 30 inch right? This is fine right?

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Just now, zindan said:

 

 

 

 

https://www.elgiganten.se/product/datorer-tillbehor/bildskarm/AC28XB281HKBM/acer-predator-xb281hk-28-datorskarm-gaming What about this 28 inch? Won't be so different from the 30 inch right? This is fine right?

28" 4k = 158 DPI

30" 4k = 145 DPI

32" 4k = 138 DPI

 

120-130 DPI is about max if you don't want to use scaling. 32" 4k is barely usable without scaling if you don't want to strain your eyes by reading tiny text.

At anything lower than 32" you will need to use scaling to make text, icons, etc appear larger which defeats the purpose of higher resolution. Yes, it will still look a lot better and smoother than 1440p IF the scaling works, because some older applications will actually look terrible/blurry with scaling on Windows.

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Just now, WereCat said:

28" 4k = 158 DPI

30" 4k = 145 DPI

32" 4k = 138 DPI

 

120-130 DPI is about max if you don't want to use scaling. 32" 4k is barely usable without scaling if you don't want to strain your eyes by reading tiny text.

At anything lower than 32" you will need to use scaling to make text, icons, etc appear larger which defeats the purpose of higher resolution. Yes, it will still look a lot better and smoother than 1440p IF the scaling works, because some older applications will actually look terrible/blurry with scaling on Windows.

Movies and gaming then? Those are fine right? 

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Just now, zindan said:

Movies and gaming then? Those are fine right? 

Those are fine.

Movies, games, pictures will look better with higher DPI but for usability, you want to find the balance which IMO is at 32"-36".

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Just now, WereCat said:

Those are fine.

Movies, games, pictures will look better with higher DPI but for usability, you want to find the balance which IMO is at 32"-36".

Hmm okay, going with 144hz 1440p instead then. Thanks. Umm when will I be able to buy a 4k monitor that is eprfectly optimized for all uses? When wil the technology get there?

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Just now, zindan said:

Hmm okay, going with 144hz 1440p instead then. Thanks. Umm when will I be able to buy a 4k monitor that is eprfectly optimized for all uses? When wil the technology get there?

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Just now, WereCat said:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

What if  I buy a 32 inch 4k ?? It should be fine right??  2k feels like wasted money.. so close to 4k you nkow

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What if  I buy a 32 inch 4k ?? It should be fine right??  2k feels like wasted money.. so close to 4k you nkow

1440p is not 2k

and it depends on what you want to do

 

For games, 1440p 144Hz is way better than 4k 60Hz but if you don't care about high refresh rate then just go straight to 4k.

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Just now, WereCat said:

1440p is not 2k

and it depends on what you want to do

 

For games, 1440p 144Hz is way better than 4k 60Hz but if you don't care about high refresh rate then just go straight to 4k.

ahh ok 1440p it is then... fuck I really wanted 4k but fuck it I will have to wait until it gets better.

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Just now, zindan said:

ahh ok 1440p it is then... fuck I really wanted 4k but fuck it I will have to wait until it gets better.

what are your PC specs though?

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Just now, WereCat said:

what are your PC specs though?

: CPU
i7 7700k

Motherboard
Aorus by Gigabyte GA-Z270X-Gaming K5

RAM
LPX 2x8GB DDR4 Black 3000MHz

GPU
ASUS GeForce GTX1080Ti STRIX OC

Case
Cooler Master Storm Stryker - White

Storage
Samsung 850 EVO Series 250GB

PSU
EVGA PowerSupply (PSU) SuperNOVA G2 850W

Display(s)
AOC G2460VQ6 + AOC E2470SWDA

Cooling
Corsair Hydro H115i

Keyboard
Mission SG GGK 3.1

Mouse
Razer DeathAdder Elite

Operating System
Windows 10 pro

 

 

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Just now, zindan said:

: CPU
i7 7700k

Motherboard
Aorus by Gigabyte GA-Z270X-Gaming K5

RAM
LPX 2x8GB DDR4 Black 3000MHz

GPU
ASUS GeForce GTX1080Ti STRIX OC

Case
Cooler Master Storm Stryker - White

Storage
Samsung 850 EVO Series 250GB

PSU
EVGA PowerSupply (PSU) SuperNOVA G2 850W

Display(s)
AOC G2460VQ6 + AOC E2470SWDA

Cooling
Corsair Hydro H115i

Keyboard
Mission SG GGK 3.1

Mouse
Razer DeathAdder Elite

Operating System
Windows 10 pro

Nice, that will work great for 1440p 144Hz

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