should i get a ryzen 3 or core i3

[Nocturn3]

i am going to upgrade my pc. i already have a good graphics(rx480) card and a ssd but i think they are bottlenecking because of my cpu(first gen i5) and mobo(sata2). my main objective is gaming. 1080p with good fps is a must

[Lurick]

Ryzen 3 would make more sense I think.

[Shiv78]

Ryzen 3! More cores, overclockable, and better future upgrade path. 

Make SURE you get a B350 motherboard from Asus, ASRock, or Gigabyte, and the fastest RAM you can get. Most MSI AM4 boards have issues.

 

not sure about your color scheme, location, or budget but here's a solid combo:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($108.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($60.49 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($68.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $238.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-15 15:06 EDT-0400

[Tiwaz]

4 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Ryzen 3 would make more sense I think.

tbh he should at least get a ryzen 5 1400 and overclock that shit, the only reason with 1500x, 1600x perform better than a 1400 is not the extra Core and thread count, but the higher clock speed 

[Nocturn3]

thanks guys. i never used an amd cpu before. any tips? i think i will go with a 1300x. that fits well with my budget. and a <100 dollar mobo

[Nocturn3]

lol i forgot i need ram too.

[TVwazhere]

17 minutes ago, Nocturn3 said:

i am going to upgrade my pc. i already have a good graphics(rx480) card and a ssd but i think they are bottlenecking because of my cpu(first gen i5) and mobo(sata2). my main objective is gaming. 1080p with good fps is a must

I wouldnt get the i3 since the G4560 exists and its 90% of the performance for 75% 0f the cost. 

 

That being said, Ryzen has more upgrade path currently, especially since you can use the same motherboard to OC, whereas a Z chip motherboard would be more expensive and "wouldnt make sense" with a pentium/i3 processor.

 

FPS for FPS, they're the same

 

[Sanctorum]

Definitely not i3. Either Pentium G4560 or Ryzen 3. Don't get an R3 1300X, just get an R3 1200.

[Nocturn3]

1 minute ago, Sanctorum said:

Definitely not i3. Either Pentium G4560 or Ryzen 3. Don't get an R3 1300X, just get an R3 1200.

 

3 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

I wouldnt get the i3 since the G4560 exists and its 90% of the performance for 75% 0f the cost. 

 

That being said, Ryzen has more upgrade path currently, especially since you can use the same motherboard to OC, whereas a Z chip motherboard would be more expensive and "wouldnt make sense" with a pentium/i3 processor.

 

FPS for FPS, they're the same

 

okay. but why not 1300x?

[TVwazhere]

2 minutes ago, Nocturn3 said:

okay. but why not 1300x?

The main difference between the 1200 and 1300x is base and boost clock speed, which doesnt matter if you're overclocking, because they will both hit the same max OC (though 1300x might be "binned" so they could hit a 100mhz higher clock, at least thats supposedly the case on the R7 1800x)

 

Additionally, the X variants of the Ryzen CPU's do not come with stock coolers (which I believe still holds true with the R3 series but I could be wrong)

[Sanctorum]

3 minutes ago, Nocturn3 said:

okay. but why not 1300x?

It's the exact same CPU as the 1200, just overclock a 1200 to 1300x speeds and you have a 1300x.

[Sanctorum]

Just now, TVwazhere said:

The main difference between the 1200 and 1300x is base and boost clock speed, which doesnt matter if you're overclocking, because they will both hit the same max OC (though 1300x might be "binned" so they could hit a 100mhz higher clock, at least thats supposedly the case on the R7 1800x)

 

Additionally, the X variants of the Ryzen CPU's do not come with stock coolers (which I believe still holds true with the R3 series but I could be wrong)

Only the 1600x, 1700x and 1800x don't include coolers AFAIK. I think the 1300x and 1500x come with coolers, but I think they come with Wraith Stealth. R5 1600 and R7 1700 come with Wraith Spire.

[TVwazhere]

Just now, Sanctorum said:

Only the 1600x, 1700x and 1800x don't include coolers AFAIK. I think the 1300x and 1500x come with coolers, but I think they come with Wraith Stealth. R5 1600 and R7 1700 come with Wraith Spire.

Good to know. It wouldnt make sense to have to buy an aftermarket cooler for such a low TDP chip anyways, especially since the stock ones are actually pretty good

[Shiv78]

2 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

R5 1600 and R7 1700 come with Wraith Spire.

1600 has a spire with no RGB ring.

[Sanctorum]

Just now, Shiv78 said:

1600 has a spire with no RGB ring.

Wraith Max is the RGB one. Wraith Spire comes with R5 1600 and R7 1700. Wraith Stealth comes with everything from the R3 1200 to the R5 1500X. Then, the 1600X, 1700X, and 1800X have no included cooler.

[Shiv78]

3 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

Wraith Max is the RGB one. Wraith Spire comes with R5 1600 and R7 1700. Wraith Stealth comes with everything from the R3 1200 to the R5 1500X. Then, the 1600X, 1700X, and 1800X have no included cooler.

Nope. 

1700 has Spire w/RGB ring.

1600 has Spire w/out RGB ring.

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/cpu-cooler-solution

[Nocturn3]

8 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

The main difference between the 1200 and 1300x is base and boost clock speed, which doesnt matter if you're overclocking, because they will both hit the same max OC (though 1300x might be "binned" so they could hit a 100mhz higher clock, at least thats supposedly the case on the R7 1800x)

 

Additionally, the X variants of the Ryzen CPU's do not come with stock coolers (which I believe still holds true with the R3 series but I could be wrong)

 

8 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

It's the exact same CPU as the 1200, just overclock a 1200 to 1300x speeds and you have a 1300x.

okay. i get it now. i thought 1300x might be significantly better than the 1200 

[Sanctorum]

1 minute ago, Shiv78 said:

Nope. 

1700 has Spire w/RGB ring.

1600 has Spire w/out RGB ring.

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/cpu-cooler-solution

Ah, I see. Didn't actually know there was an RGB Spire, I thought they just had the Wraith Max with RGB.

[TVwazhere]

Just now, Sanctorum said:

Ah, I see. Didn't actually know there was an RGB Spire, I thought they just had the Wraith Max with RGB.

Today, we all learned something new

[Nocturn3]

hey guys... brought a secondhand pc for around 600 dollars from a friend. poor guy needed money badly. specs- i7 6700k cpu, hyper212x red led cooler, asus maximus 8 hero mobo, g.skill trident z 3200mhz 16gb ram (2x8), intel 600p 128gb nvme ssd, sapphire r9 390 8gb nitro gpu, cooler master v750 gold psu and thermaltake core v51 chassis. *about 18 month old*
what do you guys think?
i will include some pictures

[Shiv78]

Looks good! Better than any Ryzen 3 or i3, and I feel bad for your friend

[JoostinOnline]

On 8/15/2017 at 2:30 PM, Sanctorum said:

It's the exact same CPU as the 1200, just overclock a 1200 to 1300x speeds and you have a 1300x.

Not entirely true.  It's possible, if unlikely, that a 1200 can't be overclocked to 1300x speeds.

[TVwazhere]

18 hours ago, Nocturn3 said:

hey guys... brought a secondhand pc for around 600 dollars from a friend. poor guy needed money badly. specs- i7 6700k cpu, hyper212x red led cooler, asus maximus 8 hero mobo, g.skill trident z 3200mhz 16gb ram (2x8), intel 600p 128gb nvme ssd, sapphire r9 390 8gb nitro gpu, cooler master v750 gold psu and thermaltake core v51 chassis. *about 18 month old*
what do you guys think?
i will include some pictures

For $600 thats a real steal! Especially considering AMD cards are selling like crazy right now, even the 300 series is selling hot ($300+) on craigslist and ebay from what I'm told, that board is a very high end motherboard ($200 range new), the ram is very good (125) The PSU and case aren't things to write home about but overall you got yourself a hell of a computer there!

[Shiv78]

6 hours ago, TVwazhere said:

For $600 thats a real steal! Especially considering AMD cards are selling like crazy right now, even the 300 series is selling hot ($300+) on craigslist and ebay from what I'm told, that board is a very high end motherboard ($200 range new), the ram is very good (125) The PSU and case aren't things to write home about but overall you got yourself a hell of a computer there!

do you think he should sell the 390 for a 1060?

or maybe 1070?

[Nocturn3]

4 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

do you think he should sell the 390 for a 1060?

or maybe 1070?

yeah. i have already posted some ads of this card and my rx 480. hopefully i would be able to get a 1080ti