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i7 7700k and GTX 1070 or i5 7600k and GTX 1080 for 1080p 144hz future proof

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What would be the better CPU and GPU choice for 1080p 144hz gaming in the future?

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GTX 1070 or 1080 with Ryzen 5 1600 or 7 1700.

the i5-7600K is sadly out from the ring personally

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Ryzen 5 1600 with GTX 1080.  As @Ordinarily_Greater said, i5-7600k received a big K.O. after Ryzen 5's launch.

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i7 7700k for 144Hz+

i5 will not be enough

R5 1500X/1600 will be a good middle ground between i5 and i7.

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19 minutes ago, FlameLink101 said:

Not a big fan of AMD btw

Poor attitude to have just because of a bad recent history. Intel have had bad products too.

 

Your best result will be an R5 1600 and a 1080.

 

As others say unless Intel drop the price by like $80-100 R5s have made i5s obsolete.

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Avoid the 7600K. If (for whatever reason) you hate AMD, get an i7 7700 with a B250 motherboard with a 1080, but I would still recommend a Ryzen 5 1600 over the 7700

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1 hour ago, WereCat said:

i7 7700k for 144Hz+

i5 will not be enough

R5 1500X/1600 will be a good middle ground between i5 and i7.

why wouldn't an i5 be good enough? serious question, if he's just gaming an i5 plus a 1070 or 1080 should be plenty, shouldn't it?

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8 minutes ago, Johntheawesomeguy said:

why wouldn't an i5 be good enough? serious question, if he's just gaming an i5 plus a 1070 or 1080 should be plenty, shouldn't it?

Because while i5 can reach those high FPS it also very often dips very low and cannot maintain those high FPS for long.

Ryzen cannot reach those high FPS most of the time but it has way better and stable minimums than i5.

 

For e-sports games it doesn't really matter, those can be run on a potato.

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10 minutes ago, Johntheawesomeguy said:

why wouldn't an i5 be good enough? serious question, if he's just gaming an i5 plus a 1070 or 1080 should be plenty, shouldn't it?

But i5 is already out from the ring...

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1 minute ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

But i5 is already out from the ring...

that's why I didn't recommend the i5, I was just curious.

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2 minutes ago, Johntheawesomeguy said:

that's why I didn't recommend the i5, I was just curious.

Ok i have replied to your thread about GtX 1070

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7600k is more than enough for pushing 144 frames in 1080p. I had no problem doing that with overclocked 4790k, and 7600k is even faster than 4790k and can clock higher.

Of course, some games like Dirt4 have problems pushing over 100 frames even with 1080ti. It's getting pretty ridiculous how some games are badly optimised at 1080p, not to mention higher resolutions which will produce unplayable fps.

So, buying 1080 or 1080ti won't make your build futureproof, but in most cases it will be enough to push 144 frames.

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9 hours ago, FlameLink101 said:

What would be the better CPU and GPU choice for 1080p 144hz gaming in the future?

Do NOT get an i5. i5 is shit.

1. Ryzen 5 1600 is better and cheaper. Same performance in most games, much more application performance (and future games).

2. non-OC i7 > OC i5. Hyperthreading > OC.

 

You want more than 60 Hz? Easy, i7 7700(k) is the min you should get. Rather get a lower GPU NOW, than a shitty CPU, which will Bottleneck already.

holding 60 fps might be not very difficult, but going up to 144 fps.. that's brutal for CPU.

 

Think it that way: You buy the CPU for 4-5 years, probably even 6 years. It  needs to deliver for those timespan.

But GPU: Just reduce 2-3 settings 1 step, and you counter the fps loss. You will probably upgrade your GPU anyway in max 2-3 years. But teh CPU will remain.

 

 Get i5 + 1080 now, and upgrade to a MUCH stronger 2080 or 2180 or anything. The stronger teh GPU, the more the CPU will bottleneck ;) And 4 Threads.. is really not much.^^"

 

So yea. Either you start with i7 (do NOT go below that), or you go with Ryzen 5 1600~.

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I've used an i5-6500, and an i5-7600, both would go to 80-100% while running GTA V, or any graphically intensive game. It didn't matter what was thrown at it. Since I upgraded to an i7-7700k, the usage has been moderate compared to the latter.

 

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6 hours ago, Asiram said:

7600k is more than enough for pushing 144 frames in 1080p. I had no problem doing that with overclocked 4790k, and 7600k is even faster than 4790k and can clock higher.

Of course, some games like Dirt4 have problems pushing over 100 frames even with 1080ti. It's getting pretty ridiculous how some games are badly optimised at 1080p, not to mention higher resolutions which will produce unplayable fps.

So, buying 1080 or 1080ti won't make your build futureproof, but in most cases it will be enough to push 144 frames.

this post is full of lies

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For 144 Hz gaming today I wouldn't go with anything other than the i7-7700k (unless you want to wait for Coffee Lake). And the GTX 1070 is overpriced, get the 1080 that's roughly 25% more powerful. But the Ryzen chips like the R5 1600 and R7 1700 will likely age better in the long term, as the next gen of consoles will probably come out around 2020 and probably use something like Zen octacores. Also no gpu is going to be very future proof at those kind of framerates.

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I take it back, for 144 Hz gaming the i7-7740X may be the best based on some of the clockspeeds I have been hearing about, but an X299 system will be way more expensive for slightly better performance than the i7-7700k.

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16 hours ago, Nickathom said:

this post is full of lies

Can you elaborate?

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2 hours ago, Asiram said:

Can you elaborate?

a 7600k is not faster than a 4790k. the 7600 can clock higher, yes, but its only by 2-3 hundred mhz, and in game, thats not going to be noticeable. what will be noticeable are the threads. 
i dont know about your second paragraph, but your first one is just wrong. the 4790 is much much better

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