This server any good

[Joelsome2211]

So I need a server for surveylance of my grain sheds and farm, for doing temperature monitoring and also to run a nas for my home. There is a catch though, I need it for under 50 quid plus shipping (excluding software). I don't want to get any monthly fee things either. I was looking at this server on eBay: http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-2650-PowerEdge-SMP01-2U-Rack-mount-Server-COA-Windows-server-Standard2003-/272513613941?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE

 

Will that work? Also what software should I run? A detailed guide would be very helpful. 

[The Sloth]

it will take too much power, tr to fund a cheaper one or make a pi nas http://www.techradar.com/how-to/computing/how-to-build-your-own-raspberry-pi-nas-1315968

[Droidbot]

either look for a raspberry pi or android box with sata or pick up an atom mobo and a cheap case and PSU and a sata card. hdds are cheap if you just want a day or two of surveillance. 

[leadeater]

Milestone is a great surveillance application and is free for up to 8 cameras, software will run on any basic windows computer and really the only thing you need to be careful of is storage configuration (protection level of data). 

[The Flying Sloth]

15 minutes ago, Joelsome2211 said:

So I need a server for surveylance of my grain sheds and farm, for doing temperature monitoring and also to run a nas for my home. There is a catch though, I need it for under 50 quid plus shipping (excluding software). I don't want to get any monthly fee things either. I was looking at this server on eBay: http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-2650-PowerEdge-SMP01-2U-Rack-mount-Server-COA-Windows-server-Standard2003-/272513613941?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE

 

Will that work? Also what software should I run? A detailed guide would be very helpful. 

As far as surveillance goes that server would work but it would be extremely power-thirsty.
As has been previously suggested, since the server does not come with hard drives it would probably be cheaper (and easier) to use old consumer-grade equipment and putting the HDD's in a RAID array.

For NAS though, buing a prebuilt NAS (or building one yourself) would be extremely inexpensive, 
As far as combining the two machines goes, I would be too scared of losing data to combine them but in th end it is up to you.

 

[SCHISCHKA]

last time i saw a server on a farm it had a birds nest in it

[samiscool51]

it's a potato....

thats the server processing power...

a potato...

just get a raspberry pi or use a computer you no longer use...

that would be better, and it would be cake an you would be baked (the cake is a lie)

[Joelsome2211]

http://www.openmediavault.org/

 

Would this work? What OS's will work on this server, and can I use Oracle VM to virtualise EasyNAS on it? I have some old HDDs lying around, and can get them very cheap from my local PC store. And will OBS work for recording multiple cameras at the same time?

 

 

[Danielh90]

On 3/5/2017 at 5:25 PM, leadeater said:

Milestone is a great surveillance application and is free for up to 8 cameras, software will run on any basic windows computer and really the only thing you need to be careful of is storage configuration (protection level of data). 

Any good tutorials? out their for setting 1 up?

[Joelsome2211]

10 hours ago, Danielh90 said:

Any good tutorials? out their for setting 1 up?

I couldn't find any online

[Erkel]

Forget about that ebay server already, its an antique boat anchor that likely has a scsi backpanel anyway, so you will not be able to use any modern HDD's in it and its 32bit, so no modern operating systems either.   

It realistically has a negative value,  someone is trying to sell it to a sucker in lieu of having to pay something to take it away as e-waste.  With respect to the 2U Dell poweredge series of servers, anything older than the 2950 has a negative value and is a boat anchor.    A 2950 is oldest thing that is generally considered still usable, but only for light duties,  You need to move to something like a R510 or R710 to get something that resembles modern hardware.

[Joelsome2211]

3 hours ago, Erkel said:

Forget about that ebay server already, its an antique boat anchor that likely has a scsi backpanel anyway, so you will not be able to use any modern HDD's in it and its 32bit, so no modern operating systems either.   

It realistically has a negative value,  someone is trying to sell it to a sucker in lieu of having to pay something to take it away as e-waste.  With respect to the 2U Dell poweredge series of servers, anything older than the 2950 has a negative value and is a boat anchor.    A 2950 is oldest thing that is generally considered still usable, but only for light duties,  You need to move to something like a R510 or R710 to get something that resembles modern hardware.

So an old server like that won't run Ubuntu 16.04 LTS SERVER? And it won't take an old 250GB HDD?

[Erkel]

6 hours ago, Joelsome2211 said:

So an old server like that won't run Ubuntu 16.04 LTS SERVER? And it won't take an old 250GB HDD?

It only takes SCSI HDD, so a SATA HDD will not fit.  you can install 16.04 on it, but only the 32bit version. which is limited to 4GB of RAM.

[Joelsome2211]

17 hours ago, Erkel said:

It only takes SCSI HDD, so a SATA HDD will not fit.  you can install 16.04 on it, but only the 32bit version. which is limited to 4GB of RAM.

Can I get an adaptor from SCSI to Sata?? Or Mabey To IDE? IU have some old IDE HDDs lying around. Also, what would the max storage space be on tha server with SCSI HDDs?

[Mikensan]

Just buy a used desktop, it doesn't have be enterprise hardware to run monitoring services and NAS services. Buy maybe an old sandy bridge or ivy bridge desktop somebody is trying to get rid of. Even a bloomfield i7 920 would do you right. Don't get caught up in it being a "server." If you're trying to save money that is. 

[Joelsome2211]

20 hours ago, Mikensan said:

Just buy a used desktop, it doesn't have be enterprise hardware to run monitoring services and NAS services. Buy maybe an old sandy bridge or ivy bridge desktop somebody is trying to get rid of. Even a bloomfield i7 920 would do you right. Don't get caught up in it being a "server." If you're trying to save money that is. 

But could i get an adapter from SCSI to SATA/IDE. It would help.

[Erkel]

11 minutes ago, Joelsome2211 said:

But could i get an adapter from SCSI to SATA/IDE. It would help.

No, let me put this another way. 

Stop dreaming, its an antique piece of shit, get on with life and buy something that will actually be of some practical use.

[yathis]

@Joelsome2211 - Get over that server that you have a hard on for. Just buy a cheap used pc or sometimes they are called refurbished pc either from the online classifieds, ebay, or department store. You can find some great deals out there.

 

London -pickup

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-DC5800-MT-Computer-Core-2-Duo-2GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-Office-2007-Windows-7-Pro-/222412857971?hash=item33c8d6e273:g:qnoAAOSwr~lYpvBf

 

Cheap shipping cost

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Project-Fanless-Eco-PC-Eden-1GHz-512MB-DDR2-RAM-128MB-IDE-DVI-VGA-PSU-/262797422338?hash=item3d2ff26f02:g:qNUAAOSw8aNXGATi

 

List - Buy It Now, UK, 1+GB

 

Core 2 Duo are ultra cheap

Where abouts in the UK do you live?

 

From the link, I'd say anything Intel Core 2 and higher, which is everything lower down in the page.

 

BTW I wasnt even looking at servers, which might come in cheaper, I'd say Core 2 Duo is on par with Xeon 51xx series cpu's in the server area.

 

 

Here is a good guide for a cpu hierchy,

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

 

Green is absolute minimum, red is no go. It is the sixth one down, grey shaded background.

 

Quote

Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Intel Core 2 Duo E7600 Intel Core i3-550 Intel Core i3-540 Intel Core i3-530 Intel Pentium G3470 Intel Pentium G3460 Intel Pentium G3450 Intel Pentium G3440 Intel Pentium G3430 Intel Pentium G3420 Intel Pentium G3260 Intel Pentium G3258 Intel Pentium G3250 Intel Pentium G3220 Intel Pentium G2130 Intel Pentium G2120 Intel Pentium G2020 Intel Pentium G2010 Intel Pentium G870 Intel Pentium G860 Intel Pentium G850 Intel Pentium G840 Intel Pentium G645 Intel Pentium G640 Intel Pentium G630

AMD Phenom II X4 910 AMD Phenom II X4 910e AMD Phenom II X4 810 AMD Athlon II X4 631 AMD Athlon II X4 620 AMD Athlon II X3 460

 

Here are some quotes for ya

Also the phenom x3 or x4 900 series chip are good.

Quad. Always Quad. The C2D isn't bad at all, but for any kind of future performance, always go with the C2Q

 

 

This one below the one above on the link

 

Orange is questionable but I think they are still good.

 

Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 Intel Core 2 Duo E8300 Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 Intel Core 2 Duo E8190 Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Intel Pentium G620 Intel Celeron G1630 Intel Celeron G1620 Intel Celeron G1610 Intel Celeron G555 Intel Celeron G550 Intel Celeron G540 Intel Celeron G530 Intel Celeron G3950 ($59.48 On Amazon) Intel Celeron G3930 ($44.09 On amazon) Intel Celeron G3920 ($48.89 On amazon) Intel Celeron G3900 ($44.75 On Amazon)

AMD Phenom II X4 905e AMD Phenom II X4 805 AMD Phenom II X3 710 AMD Phenom II X3 705e AMD Phenom II X2 565 Black Edition AMD Phenom II X2 560 Black Edition AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition AMD Phenom II X2 545 AMD Phenom X4 9950 AMD Athlon II X3 455 AMD Athlon II X3 450 AMD Athlon II X3 445 AMD Athlon II X3 440 AMD Athlon II X3 435 AMD Athlon II X3 425

 

 

 

 

Should be plenty of cheap ass systems around whether they are desktops or servers. Look for systems with these cpu's in them, and of course all the ones higher are even better from the link I gave you.

 

[Joelsome2211]

17 hours ago, yathis said:

@Joelsome2211 - Get over that server that you have a hard on for. Just buy a cheap used pc or sometimes they are called refurbished pc either from the online classifieds, ebay, or department store. You can find some great deals out there.

 

London -pickup

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-DC5800-MT-Computer-Core-2-Duo-2GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-Office-2007-Windows-7-Pro-/222412857971?hash=item33c8d6e273:g:qnoAAOSwr~lYpvBf

 

Cheap shipping cost

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Project-Fanless-Eco-PC-Eden-1GHz-512MB-DDR2-RAM-128MB-IDE-DVI-VGA-PSU-/262797422338?hash=item3d2ff26f02:g:qNUAAOSw8aNXGATi

 

List - Buy It Now, UK, 1+GB

 

Core 2 Duo are ultra cheap

Where abouts in the UK do you live?

 

From the link, I'd say anything Intel Core 2 and higher, which is everything lower down in the page.

 

BTW I wasnt even looking at servers, which might come in cheaper, I'd say Core 2 Duo is on par with Xeon 51xx series cpu's in the server area.

 

 

Here is a good guide for a cpu hierchy,

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

 

Green is absolute minimum, red is no go. It is the sixth one down, grey shaded background.

 

 

Here are some quotes for ya

Also the phenom x3 or x4 900 series chip are good.

Quad. Always Quad. The C2D isn't bad at all, but for any kind of future performance, always go with the C2Q

 

 

This one below the one above on the link

 

Orange is questionable but I think they are still good.

 

Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 Intel Core 2 Duo E8300 Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 Intel Core 2 Duo E8190 Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Intel Pentium G620 Intel Celeron G1630 Intel Celeron G1620 Intel Celeron G1610 Intel Celeron G555 Intel Celeron G550 Intel Celeron G540 Intel Celeron G530 Intel Celeron G3950 ($59.48 On Amazon) Intel Celeron G3930 ($44.09 On amazon) Intel Celeron G3920 ($48.89 On amazon) Intel Celeron G3900 ($44.75 On Amazon)

AMD Phenom II X4 905e AMD Phenom II X4 805 AMD Phenom II X3 710 AMD Phenom II X3 705e AMD Phenom II X2 565 Black Edition AMD Phenom II X2 560 Black Edition AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition AMD Phenom II X2 545 AMD Phenom X4 9950 AMD Athlon II X3 455 AMD Athlon II X3 450 AMD Athlon II X3 445 AMD Athlon II X3 440 AMD Athlon II X3 435 AMD Athlon II X3 425

 

 

 

 

Should be plenty of cheap ass systems around whether they are desktops or servers. Look for systems with these cpu's in them, and of course all the ones higher are even better from the link I gave you.

 

I have an old system with a Sempron 3400+ single core clocked a 1.8GHz... will that work? (I wanted the server because it would be better than this beat up old crapbag that calls itself a PC. I also wanted the server because it would have better HDD storage options. BTW the old PC has a 80GB IDE HDD.

[Joelsome2211]

On ‎11‎/‎03‎/‎2017 at 0:28 PM, Erkel said:

No, let me put this another way. 

Stop dreaming, its an antique piece of shit, get on with life and buy something that will actually be of some practical use.

CAn I get one and will it work?

[Mikensan]

Being "server" does not give you better storage options. A raid card can give you access to SAS or SCSI if that's what you wanted.

 

I don't know that I'd run a single core but it should be fine in a small environment.

 

Instead of converting SCSI to SATA, you'd just buy a SATA hba/raid card. Which is pointless because the cost would be the same as buying a used desktop for $100 off CL/Ebay. The technology is different, not just the physical connection so there is no "adapter."

[Pixel5]

3 hours ago, Joelsome2211 said:

I have an old system with a Sempron 3400+ single core clocked a 1.8GHz... will that work? (I wanted the server because it would be better than this beat up old crapbag that calls itself a PC. I also wanted the server because it would have better HDD storage options. BTW the old PC has a 80GB IDE HDD.

this would already be too slow and if you want to use this thing for surveillance you want much HDD space to store the video on.

 

if you are serious about what you want to do put some money where your mouth is and buy a used PC with up to date connections for HDD´s and all that stuff.

 

[yathis]

Yeaaa you need to spend more money then 50 pounds or whatever a quid is.

[Erkel]

21 hours ago, Joelsome2211 said:

CAn I get one and will it work?

I am coming to the realisation that you are just trolling?

 

 

[Joelsome2211]

2 hours ago, Erkel said:

I am coming to the realisation that you are just trolling?

 

 

I'm not trolling. I just want to have a server and I have a budget of 50 quid (a quid is a pound)