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Zack Brown

Are Internet Router Waves Dangerous?

11 hours ago, AshleyAshes said:

If a router WAS dangerously radioactive or something, how would unplugging it after 10pm have a benefit to safety?

"What's that?"

"That's my Uranium."

"WTF!?"

"It's cool, we put it in it's lead cask from 10pm till 8am."

"Oh, cool, thank god.  Pass the chips would you?"

Well his point is that it won't affect us while we sleep so that we could have a better sleep.

 

@manikyath @Quinnbeast @TheSuspenceful @SamStrecker @Donut417 @Potato_King @givingtnt @wrathoftheturkey @Sauron

 

Thanks guys for your very helpful information. He is convinced now and would let the router be on at night :D

 

All the help is much appreciated.

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53 minutes ago, Potato_King said:

its what i do. my mission in this world is to edumucate people on the truths of new tech and to eat food.

you know... on a kind of unrelated note, i never use a microwave for cooking.

 

however, not for the reason of this topic, i think my microwave just hates me.

last time i tried heating up a hamburger in it after 30 seconds the left side was charred that hard i couldnt even get a fork into it, the right side was still fridge cold.

 

i have decided a steam oven is much more reliable, and i'm no longer going to buy this specific brand of microwave :P

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1 hour ago, Zack Brown said:

Are internet router waves dangerous? If so then what are its symptoms?

 

https://www.safespaceprotection.com/emf-health-risks/emf-health-effects/wi-fi-router-dangers/

Radio wave of certain frequencies and at higher power levels can cause issues if exposed for a long time. However WiFi does not fall it to this, under FCC rules routers are kept with in limits and can not cause harm. 

 

I have heard if you stood directly in line and close to some cell phone tower transmitters for like a good hour or 2 you could get burns. But you would feel your skin tingling. I dont think anyone is that stupid not to move. I guess its good that most cell phone transmitters are on high towers at least in my area. They have been running tests for over a decade and none of these tests prove that WiFI can cause some. Some of these Jackass Tin foil hat people want you to believe that WiFI is dangerous this is bullshit. We have a few living in my community, they want to stop smart electrical meters. DTE is charging extra if you keep an old analog  meter, so they want that to change the fact they can get charged. One of them contacted a state representative about it. 

 

Also keep in mind, that when your microwave is on, it emits 2.4Ghz like most WiFi routers and the power level a microwave runs at far exceeds what a router can output. Oh and for 6 months I had the wireless card in my computer pointed directly at my head when I was sleeping in my bed. Besides the High Blood pressure from poor diet, Im completely healthy. 


You ever notice that many establishments have a sign that as "No Shirt, No Shoes, No service"? They never say anything about pants............ You know what that implies. You dont have to wear pants. 

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1 hour ago, Zack Brown said:

?? That still requires the router/modem to be on.

You can turn the radio off. I would just lie when I turn it off and on. You can't fix crazy people


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2 hours ago, manikyath said:

well, 2.4GHz is dangerous, that's why there's legal limits to how strong the antenna on your router can be, because below that treshold it's safe.

 

it's like music at a concert: sound can make you deaf, thats why concerts are limited to a maximum of X number of db because scientists have deemed that as a safe maximum.

 

Well, yes. But I was making a suggestion regarding the OP, not asking aloud for an answer. Relatively speaking, unless you're sleeping with your face on you router, you're more likely to find greater danger simply by... er... going outside (feel free to pick any other random endeavor). RF signals from phones and wi-fi have a carcinogenic evaluation of '2B' (i.e. "possible" but not effectively demonstrated) according to WHO legislators themselves, which is the same rating as coffee, pickled vegetables and being a carpenter. I suspect that guns, cars, pollution, flying, and consuming half of the shit your average supermarket calls "food" will carry more immediate health risks.

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Just now, Quinnbeast said:

 

Well, yes. But I was making a suggestion regarding the OP, not asking aloud for an answer. Relatively speaking, unless you're sleeping with your face on you router, you're more likely to find greater danger simply by... er... going outside (feel free to pick any other random endeavor). RF signals from phones and wi-fi have a carcinogenic evaluation of '2B' (i.e. "possible" but not effectively demonstrated) according to legislators themselves, which is the same rating as coffee, pickled vegetables and being a carpenter. I suspect that guns, cars, pollution, flying, and consuming half of the shit your average supermarket calls "food" will carry more immediate health risks.

my general advice is that you shouldnt see it as a danger, but if you "notice oddities" it's certainly a great place to start since turning off your wifi doesnt cost anything, and has less side effects than pills ;)

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11 hours ago, AshleyAshes said:

If a router WAS dangerously radioactive or something, how would unplugging it after 10pm have a benefit to safety?

"What's that?"

"That's my Uranium."

"WTF!?"

"It's cool, we put it in it's lead cask from 10pm till 8am."

"Oh, cool, thank god.  Pass the chips would you?"

Well his point is that it won't affect us while we sleep so that we could have a better sleep.

 

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21 hours ago, manikyath said:

ON PEOPLE WHO DIDNT EVEN KNEW I WAS DOING THE THING?

you're the one who made the conclusion. You know nothing about the scientific method, do you?

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Just now, Lord_Doge said:

you're the one who made the conclusion. You know nothing about the scientific method, do you?

i made the conclusion that people who didnt know things were changing quite reliably changed as well.

 

unlike some, i still have an ounce for respect and prefer not to use my family as guinnea pigs for extended amounts of time while i'm writing down the data, without them knowing.

 

i see what happened around me, and taken my conclusions from it.

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3 minutes ago, manikyath said:

i made the conclusion that people who didnt know things were changing quite reliably changed as well.

 

unlike some, i still have an ounce for respect and prefer not to use my family as guinnea pigs for extended amounts of time while i'm writing down the data, without them knowing.

 

i see what happened around me, and taken my conclusions from it.

You're just as stubborn (and insane) as the ones who fear wifi. Your opinions are just closer to that of a sane man and therefore the general population accepts you.

 

You'd need a much larger sample size before anyone will consider your point. I have another experiment for you: try leaving the microwave on all night and see if that affects your family.

 

Many people in this thread have made very valid arguments against you, yet you still refuse to budge. I have never met anyone as biased as you.

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24 minutes ago, Lord_Doge said:

You're just as stubborn (and insane) as the ones who fear wifi. Your opinions are just closer to that of a sane man and therefore the general population accepts you.

 

You'd need a much larger sample size before anyone will consider your point. I have another experiment for you: try leaving the microwave on all night and see if that affects your family.

 

Many people in this thread have made very valid arguments against you, yet you still refuse to budge. I have never met anyone as biased as you.

- because i've seen that it genuinely affects some. i have mentioned from the start i know it doesnt affect everyone, and you're the only one here ever mentioning it "causing" things.

 

- microwaves are a very, very good farraday cage, with very good reason, if it was not, you'd have cancer before your dinner was ready. also, i do not have the money to conduct an experiment that may potentially set the kitchen on fire ;)

 

- because "many people" twist my words, and never actually bring in any evidence. if you want to prove me wrong, go ahead and do testing yourself, with all the parameters you want to oppose on me.

 

in the meantime, i'd prefer to keep my good nights rest, and wish for my family to have the same.

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1 hour ago, manikyath said:

- because i've seen that it genuinely affects some. i have mentioned from the start i know it doesnt affect everyone, and you're the only one here ever mentioning it "causing" things.

 

- microwaves are a very, very good farraday cage, with very good reason, if it was not, you'd have cancer before your dinner was ready. also, i do not have the money to conduct an experiment that may potentially set the kitchen on fire ;)

 

- because "many people" twist my words, and never actually bring in any evidence. if you want to prove me wrong, go ahead and do testing yourself, with all the parameters you want to oppose on me.

 

in the meantime, i'd prefer to keep my good nights rest, and wish for my family to have the same.

If the placebo makes you feel better by all means go ahead and move your router.

 

Microwaves are only slightly good faraday cages. A good bit of the radiation does leak out. Chronically standing next to a running microwave probably isn't good for your skin. However, like wifi, microwaves produce non-ionizing radiation which produce heat but do not cause cancer.

 

All wifi would ever do is burn you if it was powerful enough, but you said yourself that the FCC regulates it enough to not be an issue.

 

Some other forms of non ionizing radiation that don't cause cancer are: Radio waves (literally everywhere), Cosmic background radiation, (also literally everywhere), Electromagnetic fields (try to escape those), and other various forms of radiation produced from many electronics.

 

I'm curious, do these things also mess with your sleep? You'd need to build a faraday cage pretty deep underground to test. You also wouldn't be able to bring any electronics and for good measure you probably should avoid any light as well.

 

But i'm not "bringing in any evidence" to disprove your claim so you can feel free to disregard my post as some casual on the internet who knows nothing at all. God forbid you be wrong.

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1 minute ago, Lord_Doge said:

Microwaves are only slightly good faraday cages.

inside microwave: 1KW

outside microwave: milliwats

how is that only slightly good?

 

if you're gonna talk people who are too stubborn to admit they're wrong...

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12 hours ago, Zack Brown said:

Well his point is that it won't affect us while we sleep so that we could have a better sleep.

 

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Wifi will burn your skin and make it catch on fire and microwaves will make your head explode when you turn it on. So yes very very dangerous


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3 hours ago, manikyath said:

inside microwave: 1KW

outside microwave: milliwats

how is that only slightly good?

 

if you're gonna talk people who are too stubborn to admit they're wrong...

I can admit i'm wrong. . .

 

Sure you aren't getting the full blast, but they still leak. I figured by "very very good" you meant 0% leakage. I consider some leakage as only slightly good.

 

Though I do love how you avoid every other point in my comment.

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On 2016-08-13 at 1:15 PM, Zack Brown said:

Are internet router waves dangerous? If so then what are its symptoms?

 

https://www.safespaceprotection.com/emf-health-risks/emf-health-effects/wi-fi-router-dangers/

The notion that the EMR used to transmit data in wireless networks is somehow dangerous is quite frankly moronic, and shows an extreme amount scientific incompetence.

 

Wireless signals from access points for Ethernet networks use a similar frequency to that of microwave ovens, at least when we talk about the 2.4Ghz spectrum. Have you ever pulled your food out of a microwave and thought "is this radioactive?", I sure would hope not. At a basic level a microwave heats food by causing the water molecules in the substance the oscillate. So with that said, yes, the same thing does happen to you with wireless waves, however, microwaves have capacitors that run the magnetron in the thousands of watts. Access point, by design and by regulation, may not exceed 1 watt. Most often, you're looking at power factors in the mili-watts. Secondly, the standing wave produced by a wireless access point doesn't actually contain enough power to cause a water molecule to oscillate, this requires FAR more power, and is why the aforementioned microwave ovens run in the thousands of watts. I should also add here it isn't the wave itself that oscillates the water molecule in a microwave, it is the fact that water is a polar molecule, and therefore will oscillate to keep itself  in the correct phase as the field changes. Technically you could achieve the same result by moving a magnet around really fast.

 

My final note, and probably the most important thing for everyone to remember is that the term radiation does not imply danger. Nuclear radiation, or alpha/beta decay is highly dangerous and is what people most often associate to he term radiation. Even then tho, it isn't that simple, if you have a smoke detector in your house, say hello to radioactive decay keeping it running! When it comes to wireless signals, we are actually talking about Electro Magnetic Radiation. This can range everywhere from waves as tall as mountains, to waves so small they can rip electrons from atoms. In the middle you have visible light which is a form of Electro Magnetic Radiation. Thirdly, thermal radiation anyone? Ever stood next to a stove or a fire?

 

Radiation in itself isn't harmful, and often times serves a very essential purpose, such as allowing us to see in the case of visible light within the electro magnetic spectrum of radiation. The type of radiation you need to avoid is what is called ionizing radiation, or the types of radiation that can interact with subatomic particles such as electrons and protons. Wireless signals from radio towers, wireless access points and cellphones, just aren't dangerous. They have been around for more than long enough for adverse affects to be seen and as I'm sure you're aware, there aren't any.

 

If you do believe you suffer adverse affects from the radiation released from wireless devices, need I remind you that visible light contains more energy than wireless access points. Additionally, a wireless device in your home pales in comparison to all the other forms of radiation flying through you at all times of the day. If you really feel that there is something to it, start wearing a tinfoil hat and let us all know if the Faraday cage helps you to feel better.

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37 minutes ago, Wombo said:

The notion that the EMR used to transmit data in wireless networks is somehow dangerous is quite frankly moronic, and shows an extreme amount scientific incompetence.

 

Wireless signals from access points for Ethernet networks use a similar frequency to that of microwave ovens, at least when we talk about the 2.4Ghz spectrum. Have you ever pulled your food out of a microwave and thought "is this radioactive?", I sure would hope not. At a basic level a microwave heats food by causing the water molecules in the substance the oscillate. So with that said, yes, the same thing does happen to you with wireless waves, however, microwaves have capacitors that run the magnetron in the thousands of watts. Access point, by design and by regulation, may not exceed 1 watt. Most often, you're looking at power factors in the mili-watts. Secondly, the standing wave produced by a wireless access point doesn't actually contain enough power to cause a water molecule to oscillate, this requires FAR more power, and is why the aforementioned microwave ovens run in the thousands of watts. I should also add here it isn't the wave itself that oscillates the water molecule in a microwave, it is the fact that water is a polar water molecule, and therefore will oscillate to keep itself itself in the right phase. Technically you could achieve the same result by moving a magnet around really fast.

 

My final note, and probably the most important thing for everyone to remember is that the term radiation does not imply danger. Nuclear radiation, or alpha/beta decay is highly dangerous and is what people most often associate to he term radiation. Even then tho, it isn't that simple, if you have a smoke detector in your house, say hello to radioactive decay keeping it running! When it comes to wireless signals, we are actually talking about Electro Magnetic Radiation. This can range everywhere from waves as tall as mountains, to waves so small they can rip electrons from atoms. In the middle you have visible light which is a form of Electro Magnetic Radiation. Thirdly, thermal radiation anyone? Ever stood next to a stove or a fire?

 

Radiation in itself isn't harmful, and often times serves a very essential purpose, such as allowing us to see in the case of visible light within the electro magnetic spectrum of radiation. The type of radiation you need to avoid is what is called ionizing radiation, or the types of radiation that can interact with subatomic particles such as electrons and protons. Wireless signals from radio towers, wireless access points and cellphones, just aren't dangerous. They have been around for more than long enough for adverse affects to be seen and as I'm sure you're aware, there aren't any.

 

If you do believe you suffer adverse affects from the radiation released from wireless devices, need I remind you that visible light contains more energy than wireless access points. Additionally, a wireless device in your home pales in comparison to all the other forms of radiation flying through you at all times of the day. If you really feel that there is something to it, start wearing a tinfoil hat and let us all know if the Faraday cage helps you to feel better.

Don't forget Radon!  Radioactive Radon is literally just created by the decay of soils underneath structures and concentrates in the structures above.  That's perfectly 'natural' yet -actually dangerous-.  Yet all these people who who are like 'The wifi makes you sick' don't seem to own a radon detector! D:

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It's non-ionizing radiation, and the energy levels are quite low. It's not likely to do anything. You're constantly being exposed to radiation, including visible light.


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Lel, from the OP link, this product. $300 for a thing that does nothing

https://www.safespaceprotection.com/product/emf-adapter/


n0ah1897, on 05 Mar 2014 - 2:08 PM, said:  "Computers are like girls. It's whats in the inside that matters.  I don't know about you, but I like my girls like I like my cases. Just as beautiful on the inside as the outside."

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2 hours ago, AshleyAshes said:

Don't forget Radon!  Radioactive Radon is literally just created by the decay of soils underneath structures and concentrates in the structures above.  That's perfectly 'natural' yet -actually dangerous-.  Yet all these people who who are like 'The wifi makes you sick' don't seem to own a radon detector! D:

A good point to make, this would be covered by the alhpa/beta decay statement however. Regardless, a good example of everyday radiation we are exposed to, and a a far more harmful version of radiation at that, however still relatively meaningless.

 

Radon is an element, it is the heaviest and only radioactive Noble Gas on the period table at this time. Radon is natural found in extremely small quantities in various soils around the world. Even with radiation from Radon decay coming to light, the levels are extremely low. Odds are you receive more radiation from Bananas than Radon. Yes bananas are radioactive.

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I could cite the science here but I know some will ignore that. So instead I can say that from personal experience I haven't ever had any "health effects" from WiFi. It certainly hasn't disturbed my sleeping patterns. I say that as someone who has an access point literally in the room that I sleep in.

 

Now are there kinds of tech that do have impacts on my sleep? Well sure. Lights of any kind will keep me awake which is why I try to avoid having lights going. I tape over lights or disable them in the settings. When I haven't done that it's very hard to sleep. Another one is electrical noise, specifically coil whine. Fans are tolerable to a point but coil whine is unbearable if you want to get to sleep whatever the volume. Obviously alarms of any kind are also pretty obnoxious, by design. So I try to avoid those things. But WiFi? ... never had an issue.

 

So when someone says that they have some anecdotal evidence showing that WiFi impacts on their health/sleep etc? I call BS. But also wonder what else is going on for them to make that claim. Because most routers have pretty bright lights on them and quite a few routers have pretty average coil whine. So I think a lot of those supposed claims aren't actually about the WiFi


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9 hours ago, Lord_Doge said:

I can admit i'm wrong. . .

 

Sure you aren't getting the full blast, but they still leak. I figured by "very very good" you meant 0% leakage. I consider some leakage as only slightly good.

 

Though I do love how you avoid every other point in my comment.

because i got bored running in circles arguing with a doorknob.

 

in terms of the farraday cage, a modern, well-made microwave is 1KW inside, and the outside is that little that powerful wifi-enabled devices can work trough the microwave going full blast. (your phone is most likely still gonna eat dust tho)

 

however, it's still a pretty accepted norm that you shouldnt sit in front of your microwave and stare at your food being cooked, on the off chance something is wrong with said farraday cage and it leaks higher than the norm...

that power limit on wifi is there for a reason.

 

also, if you so insist on me explaining why i think it's not a very good thing for you, especially at night, here's some examples:

- some people need a pitch black darknes to sleep in, others dont.

- some people need quietness to sleep and wake up from the slightest sound, others dont.

- some people just sleep better when there's no wifi blasting into the room, others dont notice (as much).

 

note that i keep saying the word "blasting" and not "wifi is on". every wifi device i have has at least one bar of connection in the bedrooms, but i've noticed a significant difference in sleeping patterns, especially with my dad, who in simple terms basicly wont sleep on nights i have a strong wifi access point in the room next to his bedroom, and when i unplug said access point he sleeps like a rock.

 

i'd much prefer to say it's a fluke, or it's just other elements ligning up, but it's so notable and repeatable that it's pretty hard to argument against.

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3 hours ago, manikyath said:

because i got bored running in circles arguing with a doorknob.

I do agree, arguing with a doorknob is becoming quite annoying.

 

3 hours ago, manikyath said:

i'd much prefer to say it's a fluke, or it's just other elements *lining* up, but it's so notable and repeatable that it's pretty hard to argument against.

Except that almost everyone here has argued with you, you lack a single good point yet you continue the bullshit.

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