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Overclocking doubts

OC'ing a monitor doesn't degrade their life at all. Your not changing voltages, an OC either works or it doesnt. Sometimes if it 'works' it can also drop frames.

Its akin to OCing a CPU without touching voltage or using more power, there is no degradation.

 

Whats more likely to have happened is that ur running in a limited color mode like ycbcr 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 or RGB limited.

 

As for 60hz vs 75hz thats a frame time difference of 3,33ms

The difference between 144hz and 240hz is 2.78ms

Basically ur seeing more a difference between 60hz and 75hz than u do between 144hz and 240hz. And there are plenty of people who claim to tell the difference between 144hz and 240hz.

 

In the end however, ur talking about a 60hz monitor, chances are the pixel response time isnt fast enough for 60hz let alone 75hz, so ur not going to actually 'see' the benefits, rather ull 'feel' the smoothness, which can be achieved by running standard 60hz with 'fast sync' and allowing fps to hit 120hz.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I overclocked my monitor from 60hz to 75hz and everything looks washed out, is this normal?

 

Also i can play csgo and valorant like always but when i try to play league of legends once the game opens i get the "signal out of range" warning (just like when i go anything above 75hz in the desktop or in other games), why does that happen?

 

my monitor is an old LG flatron e2341 connected via hdmi to an rx570 8gb

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Overclocking monitors works, but also degrades their life.  If its an old monitor, its probably got some age to it as well.  No overclocks are guaranteed - I personally wouldn't overclock a monitor unless I had to.  There is such a minutia of difference in latency comparing 60 to 75hz.


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4 minutes ago, Santiago Santos said:

I overclocked my monitor from 60hz to 75hz and everything looks washed out, is this normal?

 

Also i can play csgo and valorant like always but when i try to play league of legends once the game opens i get the "signal out of range" warning (just like when i go anything above 75hz in the desktop or in other games), why does that happen?

 

my monitor is an old LG flatron e2341 connected via hdmi to an rx570 8gb

Most monitors can't overclock even 10% over their rated speed.. Mine dropped frames all over the place. Especially 60hz ones. I don't recommend overclocking monitors.

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3 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

There is such a minutia of difference in latency comparing 60 to 75hz.

you say that, but when i formatted my PC and forgot to re-OC my panel, i felt so off in my games until i remembered it

60 to 73Hz

 

that said, i also noticed discoloration, and my panel sort of died partially, probably due to the OC if i had to guess


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11 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Overclocking monitors works, but also degrades their life.  If its an old monitor, its probably got some age to it as well.  No overclocks are guaranteed - I personally wouldn't overclock a monitor unless I had to.  There is such a minutia of difference in latency comparing 60 to 75hz.

The difference between 75 and 60 is massive. But as you said ocing a monitor is not guaranteed to always fully work.

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Drop the FPS a few frames and it should work. For the washed out droping a few Hz might not be enough.

The Dell U2515H can do 80 Hz but the "signal out of range"  is there as soon as you go higher then that.

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14 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

you say that, but when i formatted my PC and forgot to re-OC my panel, i felt so off in my games until i remembered it

60 to 73Hz

 

that said, i also noticed discoloration, and my panel sort of died partially, probably due to the OC if i had to guess

Agreed - if you are used to those settings

 

For OP sounds like he wants more hertz but imho will kill his panel (its old) sooner rather than later OCing it if its washing colors and messing up already


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10 minutes ago, jaslion said:

The difference between 75 and 60 is massive. But as you said ocing a monitor is not guaranteed to always fully work.

Massive is quite the word for 15 more hertz.  I have a 60hz panel I game on, 75hz panel thats my secondary monitor (I prefer my old monitor, been using it for years so its what I know/feel and like) and have a 144hz panel next to that - 60 to 144hz is a completely different experience but I dont think 60 - 75 is.  Yes its better, because more fresh frames but...nothing I would ever write home to mom about


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Ill watch this one later again, but iirc it also comes down to what you are used to using.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

The screen is already kind of dead (turns black out of nowhere) i olverclocked it because i dont care if it dies im planning on getting a 120/144hz.

I posted because the washed out colors are really annoying. Any guess as why i can play any game except league?

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Just now, Santiago Santos said:

The screen is already kind of dead (turns black out of nowhere) i olverclocked it because i dont care if it dies im planning on getting a 120/144hz.

I posted because the washed out colors are really annoying. Any guess as why i can play any game except league?

Could be that its pushing so many frames (LoL can run on a potato, if I forget to turn Compute mode on my GPU off it runs the game just fine on Compute drivers lol) that the out of spec 3 lbs bag of frames its available to fill is being rushed with 20 lbs of shit.  Not sure exactly why though, just a guess


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34 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Overclocking monitors works, but also degrades their life.  If its an old monitor, its probably got some age to it as well.  No overclocks are guaranteed - I personally wouldn't overclock a monitor unless I had to.  There is such a minutia of difference in latency comparing 60 to 75hz.

Overclocking a monitor doesn't degrade the monitor. It either outputs video or it doesn't. Sometimes you will get video output but the controller will drops frames.

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overclocking a monitor does screw up its gamma settings

 

1 hour ago, Santiago Santos said:

Also i can play csgo and valorant like always but when i try to play league of legends once the game opens i get the "signal out of range" warning (just like when i go anything above 75hz in the desktop or in other games), why does that happen?

internal protection for the panel (also to make sure people buy high refresh rate stuff)


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OC'ing a monitor doesn't degrade their life at all. Your not changing voltages, an OC either works or it doesnt. Sometimes if it 'works' it can also drop frames.

Its akin to OCing a CPU without touching voltage or using more power, there is no degradation.

 

Whats more likely to have happened is that ur running in a limited color mode like ycbcr 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 or RGB limited.

 

As for 60hz vs 75hz thats a frame time difference of 3,33ms

The difference between 144hz and 240hz is 2.78ms

Basically ur seeing more a difference between 60hz and 75hz than u do between 144hz and 240hz. And there are plenty of people who claim to tell the difference between 144hz and 240hz.

 

In the end however, ur talking about a 60hz monitor, chances are the pixel response time isnt fast enough for 60hz let alone 75hz, so ur not going to actually 'see' the benefits, rather ull 'feel' the smoothness, which can be achieved by running standard 60hz with 'fast sync' and allowing fps to hit 120hz.


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