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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hello,

I tried my first watercooling but somehow it doesn't quiet work. 

My cpu is overheating immediately,  I guess because there is not enough flow. 

I got the ek velocity rgb and as a pump I got an spc x-res from ek with pwm.

The air won't come out. 

Any tips?

Ps 

My pump goes into rad into cpu into pump

 

 

 

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I learned just yesterday that with EK blocks, if your Inlet and Outlet ports aren't correctly configured to the manual of your block - this will occur.

 

The one in the center, I believe, should have water going in, the one on the side should be the exit port.  BUT I would wait till those more versed in this (they will comment) comment).  

 

You also have a pretty big air bubble on the top of the block.


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It looks like your pump is running pretty dry, especially if that's just foam in the reservoir. Make sure the reservoir is completely full of coolant, and make sure to stop the pump before it goes completely dry as the pump relies on water to keep it lubricated.

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1 minute ago, Grabhanem said:

It looks like your pump is running pretty dry, especially if that's just foam in the reservoir. Make sure the reservoir is completely full of coolant, and make sure to stop the pump before it goes completely dry as the pump relies on water to keep it lubricated.

The water isn't going out of the pump. 


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Just now, Crystoz said:

The water isn't going out of the pump. 

That's because there isn't any water in the pump to begin with. The cylindrical reservoir with the EK logo cutout should be filled all the way to the top.

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4 minutes ago, Grabhanem said:

That's because there isn't any water in the pump to begin with. The cylindrical reservoir with the EK logo cutout should be filled all the way to the top.

Tried that, doesn't work, even with a bigger reservoir.. 


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10 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

I learned just yesterday that with EK blocks, if your Inlet and Outlet ports aren't correctly configured to the manual of your block - this will occur.

 

The one in the center, I believe, should have water going in, the one on the side should be the exit port.  BUT I would wait till those more versed in this (they will comment) comment).  

 

You also have a pretty big air bubble on the top of the block.

OP read what I just put before doing other things.

 

I just read the manual to your pump so Im positive you have your block wrong if Ive pinned down which block you are using.


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Your OUT on the pump should be going to the center of the CPU block.

 

EDIT - you are sucking water in the wrong direction to the fin configuration in the block - read the manuals!


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1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

Your OUT on the pump should be going to the center of the CPU block.

 

EDIT - you are sucking water in the wrong direction to the fin configuration in the block - read the manuals!

I'll try that next, the manual didn't state such a thing. So my In on cpu must be the direct out from my pump? I thought the in just needs to be where water is going in. 


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3 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Your OUT on the pump should be going to the center of the CPU block.

This loop actually looks OK to me. This is the flow direction if I understand correctly:

 

If that pump/res is the same as the aluminum safe one I have, the output is slightly down and to the left.

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1 minute ago, Crystoz said:

I'll try that next, the manual didn't state such a thing. So my In on cpu must be the direct out from my pump? I thought the in just needs to be where water is going in. 

On generic blocks you wouldn't care.

 

On expensive, purpose built blocks like this - the IN port is in the center on top of the block fins.  The OUT port is on the side.  The manual for your block should have - what block do you have exactly?  Im just going off what it looks like and my knowledge of EK blocks.

 

 

For the rest of you commenting, read up on the blocks and that pump and you will see exactly what I am talking about.

 

@Den-Fi I saw that Blackhat guy talking about this just yesterday - am I wrong?

 


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2 minutes ago, Grabhanem said:

This loop actually looks OK to me. This is the flow direction if I understand correctly:

 

If that pump/res is the same as the aluminum safe one I have, the output is slightly down and to the left.

 

Its piped, but not correctly.  Read up, specifically about EK blocks.


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Just now, Tristerin said:

On generic blocks you wouldn't care.

 

On expensive, purpose built blocks like this - the IN port is in the center on top of the block fins.  The OUT port is on the side.  The manual for your block should have - what block do you have exactly?  Im just going off what it looks like and my knowledge of EK blocks.

 

 

For the rest of you commenting, read up on the blocks and that pump and you will see exactly what I am talking about.

 

@Den-Fi I saw that Blackhat guy talking about this just yesterday - am I wrong?

 

No the in and out are next to each other. 


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Just now, Crystoz said:

No the in and out are next to each other. 

What block did you purchase?  Ill find the manual and show


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I got the Ek Velocity RGB for Intel


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1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

Its piped, but not correctly.  Read up, specifically about EK blocks.

The block is piped correctly as far as I can tell-- see my MSPaint drawing. Pump>rad>block in-block out>pump.

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1 minute ago, Grabhanem said:

The block is piped correctly as far as I can tell-- see my MSPaint drawing. Pump>rad>block in-block out>pump.

Yes that is how I did it.


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I still don't get why the reservoir isn't full though-- if you fill it and then briefly power the pump, does it drain into the loop?

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9 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

On generic blocks you wouldn't care.

 

On expensive, purpose built blocks like this - the IN port is in the center on top of the block fins.  The OUT port is on the side.  The manual for your block should have - what block do you have exactly?  Im just going off what it looks like and my knowledge of EK blocks.

 

 

For the rest of you commenting, read up on the blocks and that pump and you will see exactly what I am talking about.

 

@Den-Fi I saw that Blackhat guy talking about this just yesterday - am I wrong?

 

Just gonna address this now. You cannot use the term generic and purpose built. Plenty, a majority, rather, of blocks that would be considered "generic" have jetplates and have dedicated in ports. Including a lot of the cheap AliExpress waterblocks, if that's what you mean by generic. Decent waterblocks have not had a reversible design for years, with the biggest holdout being Swiftech and their Apogee series that has a lot of corner to corner flow patterns. It's always safe to assume your block cares about ins and outs, simply because even $15 waterblocks in this day and age have a dedicated flow direction.


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7 minutes ago, Grabhanem said:

I still don't get why the reservoir isn't full though-- if you fill it and then briefly power the pump, does it drain into the loop

yes it goes into the loop but not all the way, at some point it seems to not work the right way, I put the pump on 100% and my bios says it runs on 2700rpm 


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4 minutes ago, Crystoz said:

yes it goes into the loop but not all the way, at some point it seems to not work the right way, I put the pump on 100% and my bios says it runs on 2700rpm 

These weaker DDCs can be incredibly annoying during filling. Try to hold it above the rest of the loop, angled downwards. Sometimes without a fresh flow of water in the in port, which isn't possible if the loop isn't full, the pump can't move the water. This is why I don't fill using reservoirs with weak pumps, too much of a pain in the ass. Also, to touch on the other subject, your flow direction is fine, you just have it very odd. Out from the pump to the radiator to the block back to the pump. Usually you go block first, not that it matters much to temps whatsoever.


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3 minutes ago, Crystoz said:

yes it goes into the loop but not all the way, at some point it seems to not work the right way, I put the pump on 100% and my bios says it runs on 2700rpm 

I would also make sure you're powering the pump off a header that can supply enough current-- I just run mine off a SATA power adapter since I'm out of fan headers and it's pretty quiet once full.

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1 minute ago, The Blackhat said:

These weaker DDCs can be incredibly annoying during filling. 

Even worse with an SPC pump... to @Crystoz, if you haven't already done so. you should rotate you case during filling, putting the front panel side on the table so that air pocket might be able to move.

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1 minute ago, The Blackhat said:

These weaker DDCs can be incredibly annoying during filling. Try to hold it above the rest of the loop, angled downwards. Sometimes without a fresh flow of water in the in port, which isn't possible if the loop isn't full, the pump can't move the water. This is why I don't fill using reservoirs with weak pumps, too much of a pain in the ass. 

Im gonna try that. To a degree I already did it 


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I had exactly same pump before and didn’t had any problems when filling the loop ( my pump died later on 😂). Maybe try to remove the top from the res. 


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