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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, Fasauceome said:

If the CV650 ends up in tier B, that would be quite nice.

problem is that only cv450/550 have been confirmed to be what was said to be

 

I'm yet to see any internal shots or reviews of the 650w version


PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//ATX Specification//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//How many watts?//PSU Protections

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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

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PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

problem is that only cv450/550 have been confirmed to be what was said to be

 

I'm yet to see any internal shots or reviews of the 650w version

Maybe I'll buy one just for u


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22 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

or reviews of the 650w version

Cybenetics: Am I a joke to you?

 

https://www.cybenetics.com/index.php?option=database&params=1,0,28

 


 

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I think the hoomans put their builds here?

Why do you hoomans give your builds a name? Here's my build, which I shall call "Do as I Say, Not As I Do" (seriously, don't get this build)

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Ryzen 1500X @3,925 GHz

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo + 2x ML120

MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic

2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL15 (Micron B-die) @2933 MHz

Sapphire Radeon R9 280 Dual-X @1120 MHz / 1450 MHz

120GB 850 Evo

120GB Kingston SSD

500GB WD Blue

Cooler Master Elite 430

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Logitech G710 with Kailh Box Jade

Logitech G502

HyperX Cloud

And my laptop, which I shall call "If It's Stupid But It Works" (It can actually play CS:GO at 50 FPS, and Civ V at 25 FPS)

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Lenovo Thinkpad L460

Intel Core i3 6100U

4GB (probably) DDR4 2133 MHz

Intel HD Graphics 520 0.3-1.0 GHz

128GB Samsung MZ7LF128HCHP

Corsair M65 Pro RGB (worst mouse I've ever had)

Sennheiser CX 5.00G

And here would be where I would put a picture of my cat. But apparently, images are not allowed here. So take this instead (*ΦωΦ*)

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, seon123 said:

now i only need something to compare it to... they don't seem to have the LX, SP9 or MW listed


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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

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PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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4 minutes ago, Kaygooo said:

What do you think, is TH just as incompetently and unreliably testing psu's as motherboards ;)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZWUOldsxXQ

 

TL;DR of the video? I don't know what's it about, but I doubt it couldn't have been an article instead of 25 minutes of a talking head.

 

What does it have to do with PSUs or this tier list, anyway? As far as I can tell, this is about motherboards. There's no correlation between quality of motherboard reviews and quality of PSU reviews, unless they're being done by the same person and that person decides to incorrectly review both.

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2 minutes ago, Kaygooo said:

What do you think, is TH just as incompetently and unreliably testing psu's as motherboards ;)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZWUOldsxXQ

Not gonna watch this drama but right off i can say that motherboards and PSUs for THG are reviewed by different people, in the case of PSUs it's Aris Mpitziopoulos, IIRC he actually works for Cybenetics and tests PSUs for them in the first place, then for a whole bunch of review sites like THG, TPU, Tweaktown and also publishes them at his YT channel, go find more competent PSU reviewer.


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29 minutes ago, OrionFOTL said:

TL;DR of the video? I don't know what's it about, but I doubt it couldn't have been an article instead of 25 minutes of a talking head.

Tom's hw reviewer used extremely flawed methods to test MSI's low-end X570 motherboards, claims it's great and called everyone who reported horrible VRM temps (quite a few) trolls and generally acted like an asshole.


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6 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

Tom's hw reviewer used extremely flawed methods to test MSI's low-end X570 motherboards, claims it's great and called everyone who reported horrible VRM temps (quite a few) trolls and generally acted like an asshole.

but to add to this: the person on the motherboards isn't Aris, so it's irrelevant for us here


PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//ATX Specification//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//How many watts?//PSU Protections

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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

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PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

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How do I find out if a version is the one in the list? For example if it says 2017 TXM, is it this one? CP-9020133-EU

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4 minutes ago, t0m.- said:

How do I find out if a version is the one in the list? For example if it says 2017 TXM, is it this one? CP-9020133-EU

Follow the link, there's part number in specifications on PCPP, yes, it's 2017 version.


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1 hour ago, Juular said:

Follow the link, there's part number in specifications on PCPP, yes, it's 2017 version.

ah thanks. slow brain today.

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should I send back my rmx750w and buy a formula gold 550w? (BP-FM550ULAG-9R) 50euro difference. 

ryzen 3600+b450 atx+2x8b ddr4 3200+1tb m2+2tb 7200 rpm. waiting for nvidia 3000. no plan about OC

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7 minutes ago, Inetkal said:

should I send back my rmx750w and buy a formula gold 550w? (BP-FM550ULAG-9R) 50euro difference. 

ryzen 3600+b450 atx+2x8b ddr4 3200+1tb m2+2tb 7200 rpm. waiting for nvidia 3000. no plan about OC

-50 EUR difference ? As in, Bitfenix are cheaper ? Yeah, why not. 550W would be enough even if you will do OC.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, bin3 said:

Are those situations in which those psu may fail anywhere or known?

which ones exactly? if you mean in general there's a lot of reasons


PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//ATX Specification//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//How many watts?//PSU Protections

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

which ones exactly? if you mean in general there's a lot of reasons

no, i mean the ones that are like "in some situations" "in only specific situations" part of the list.

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1 minute ago, bin3 said:

no, i mean the ones that are like "in some situations" "in only specific situations" part of the list.

there are notes in a spoiler just below the title


PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//ATX Specification//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//How many watts?//PSU Protections

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

Spoiler

CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

there are notes in a spoiler just below the title

ok thank you

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A sealed brand new Corsair CX550 just received from a random store tested live streamed on YouuTube. Advance the video to about one hour and four minutes where the test actually starts. 

 

The Corsair CX has no ptotection at all.

 

,At  550W everything is at acceptable levels except tempreature in a controled ambient temeprature of only 24 celcius degrees, The psu over heats and there is no over heat protection. 

 

At 605W average ripple reaches 200mv for 12v, 73mv for 5vsb, 65mv for 3,3v, 78mv for 5v and the psu never turns off. Temperature is even higher. 

 

From 650W to 690W ripple looks better at first because they turned the psu off lowering the temperature but in a matter of seconds ripple keeps increasing and the psu never turns off.

 

The only protection is that the psu will turn off at 692W but from 691W and below the psu will keep working no matter how bad all conditions are and the conditions are horrible.  

 

The Corsair VS was also tested in another live stream and it is even worse.

 

 

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I'm guessing @jonnyGURU might be interested in this


 

Quote

Women. They are a complete mystery.

-Stephen Hawking

 

I think the hoomans put their builds here?

Why do you hoomans give your builds a name? Here's my build, which I shall call "Do as I Say, Not As I Do" (seriously, don't get this build)

Spoiler

Ryzen 1500X @3,925 GHz

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo + 2x ML120

MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic

2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL15 (Micron B-die) @2933 MHz

Sapphire Radeon R9 280 Dual-X @1120 MHz / 1450 MHz

120GB 850 Evo

120GB Kingston SSD

500GB WD Blue

Cooler Master Elite 430

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Logitech G710 with Kailh Box Jade

Logitech G502

HyperX Cloud

And my laptop, which I shall call "If It's Stupid But It Works" (It can actually play CS:GO at 50 FPS, and Civ V at 25 FPS)

Spoiler

Lenovo Thinkpad L460

Intel Core i3 6100U

4GB (probably) DDR4 2133 MHz

Intel HD Graphics 520 0.3-1.0 GHz

128GB Samsung MZ7LF128HCHP

Corsair M65 Pro RGB (worst mouse I've ever had)

Sennheiser CX 5.00G

And here would be where I would put a picture of my cat. But apparently, images are not allowed here. So take this instead (*ΦωΦ*)

Hello fellow night theme users

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2 hours ago, SexualHealing said:

The Corsair CX has no ptotection at all.

The Corsair VS was also tested in another live stream and it is even worse.

 

That is absolute bullshit and the reviewer knows it.

 

He's overloading the PSUs and expecting one of two things to happen.  Either OPP trips before the ripple gets out of spec or is hoping the PSU knows the PSU ripple is out of spec and shuts down.

 

But the fact of the matter is, even a Seasonic Prime or Seasonic Prime based Corsair AX does the exact same thing (which Aris has proven if you want third party proof).  It's a stupid test and the results are stupid.

 

 

 

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How can i differentiate between a Seasonic Focus GM and FM model??? They look identical and i don't know which one is the seller trying to sell me.

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