When will AMD fix their RX 5700/5700 XT drivers?

[pumas]

First month of release, many many BSOD and black screen ok. But after almost 3.5 months of release shouldn't there be better drivers by now?

[Silentprototipe]

Your gonna have to give AMD some time. Be glad your still a under a flagship product. We Ryzen Mobile users had to wait 7 months for new drivers and were stuck on the unstable 17.7 drivers for milenia 

[pumas]

Just now, Silentprototipe said:

Your gonna have to give AMD some time. Be glad your still a under a flagship product. We Ryzen Mobile users had to wait 7 months for new drivers and were stuck on the unstable 17.7 drivers for milenia 

sry about that. Mobile ryzen? Is it in your phone or tablet?

[Princess Luna]

They are working on it but this is not something you can say "all is fixed by the x date".

[Silentprototipe]

Just now, Pumas_committed_bottleneck said:

sry about that. Mobile ryzen? Is it in your phone or tablet?

Laptops, Im a day 1 adopter of Ryzen Mobile. Example being R5 2500U. AMD took forever to get a single driver update to us. 

[2FA]

I haven't had much issue on the newest drivers other than I still can't play World of Warships at max settings without the game freezing.

[Deli]

May be I'm lucky. I have 5700XT for about a month. Except when I first installed the card and driver, did had a few black screens. The card has been working flawlessly since. No shutter, no low FPS as others reports. On the other hand, I only run one monitor. Play mostly F1, Dirty Rally, Assassins Creed, that kind of games.

[Deli]

8 minutes ago, Silentprototipe said:

Laptops, Im a day 1 adopter of Ryzen Mobile. Example being R5 2500U. AMD took forever to get a single driver update to us. 

My laptop has 3500u. The driver has been stable since day one. Yea, I know AMD didn't take the mobile driver seriously until the Zen+ mobile launched.

[Silentprototipe]

4 minutes ago, Deli said:

My laptop has 3500u. The driver has been stable since day one. Yea, I know AMD didn't take the mobile driver seriously until the Zen+ mobile launched.

3500U is very recent. Like February of this year Recent. I got my 2500U day one on November of 2017. The drivers were hell up until February of this year 

[Deli]

3 minutes ago, Silentprototipe said:

3500U is very recent. Like February of this year Recent. I got my 2500U day one on November of 2017. The drivers were hell up until February of this year 

Window Surface 3 laptop uses Ryzen moblie APU, the support should be good from now on. Fingers cross.

[Vishera]

You will never know,It took AMD 3 years to mostly fix the drivers for the R9 380,released in 2015,fixed in 2018.

The drivers for the R9 380 had huge problems such has constant driver crashes and artifacts caused by the driver itself.

[Jon Jon]

13 minutes ago, Vishera said:

You will never know,It took AMD 3 years to mostly fix the drivers for the R9 380,released in 2015,fixed in 2018.

The drivers for the R9 380 had huge problems such has constant driver crashes and artifacts caused by the driver itself.

I remember my experience with the R9 380 being pretty rock solid stable.

 

43 minutes ago, Pumas_committed_bottleneck said:

First month of release, many many BSOD and black screen ok. But after almost 3.5 months of release shouldn't there be better drivers by now?

What problems are you having?

 

I have basically nixed alll of my performance issues by setting vsync to "Always off" in Global Settings.

The only other issue I have had is black screen flickering when coming out of stand by on some games, but that is fixed with a quick reboot.

This, however, is a known issue by AMD.

[Vishera]

30 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

I remember my experience with the R9 380 being pretty rock solid stable.

 

The driver crashes on the R9 380 were very common,

The most noted one was with Tekken 7,AMD only fixed the issue after a mega thread on their forums,

From driver 17.8.1 release notes: "Tekken™ 7 may experience a crash (Chapter 13) on some Radeon RX 380 Series graphics products."

That issue was happening with other games too,such as Assassin's Creed Unity,some emulators,and many more,

it's just that AMD didn't get as much backlash with other games.

There is also the famous R9 380 Green screen of death,which was a driver issue...

 

In the news:

https://www.pcinvasion.com/r9-380-black-screen-issues-amds-persistent-unsolved-bug/

 

Some dude ranting about the black screen issue with his R9 390:

 

The artifacts were in specific games,such as:

Hyperdimension Neptunia series:

Spoiler

Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII:

Spoiler

 

Just searching about those problems you will see how common it was:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=r9+380+green+screen&ia=web

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=r9+380+black+screen&ia=web

[pumas]

52 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

I remember my experience with the R9 380 being pretty rock solid stable.

 

What problems are you having?

 

I have basically nixed alll of my performance issues by setting vsync to "Always off" in Global Settings.

The only other issue I have had is black screen flickering when coming out of stand by on some games, but that is fixed with a quick reboot.

This, however, is a known issue by AMD.

i need to turn off vsync and try

[pumas]

3 hours ago, Vishera said:

You will never know,It took AMD 3 years to mostly fix the drivers for the R9 380,released in 2015,fixed in 2018.

The drivers for the R9 380 had huge problems such has constant driver crashes and artifacts caused by the driver itself.

I hope they don't make this mistake again

[Smackaroy]

Your using a new graphics card with a new architecture your just going to wait for it to mature 

[pumas]

Just now, Smackaroy said:

Your using a new graphics card with a new architecture your just going to wait for it to mature 

Im going to make a guess by christmas there gonna be relatively stable

[Smackaroy]

3 minutes ago, Pumas_committed_bottleneck said:

Im going to make a guess by christmas there gonna be relatively stable

Maby

[BTGbullseye]

5 hours ago, Pumas_committed_bottleneck said:

Im going to make a guess by christmas there gonna be relatively stable

19.10.1 is really quite stable right now. (at least on my reference 5700 XT with a very high overclock)

[urbancamper]

19.10.1 is my sweet spot. There where 2 versions of this driver. I am using the earlier one. Took all recommendations. This done after a fresh Windows 10 install. Previous to the fresh os install i did have some problems.

I now have no problems in any games. This would include the much hated Fallout 76, and the slightly less hated Battlefield 5.

I'm running the MSI RX 5700xt Mech oc on an LG 34" ultrawide curved 144hz monitor

[Vishera]

Just now, urbancamper said:

19.10.1 is my sweet spot. There where 2 versions of this driver. I am using the earlier one. Took all recommendations. This done after a fresh Windows 10 install. Previous to the fresh os install i did have some problems.

I now have no problems in any games. This would include the much hated Fallout 76, and the slightly less hated Battlefield 5.

 

34 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

19.10.1 is really quite stable right now. (at least on my reference 5700 XT with a very high overclock)

 

I am glad i don't need to play the Russian roulette of AMD drivers anymore,

It was terrible 4 years ago and it is still terrible today,

AMD should take their time with their drivers instead of rushing to release them like fallout 76 and anthem,

Video games and drivers are both software after all.

 

From the low quality of their drivers it looks like the driver team is just 2 people.

[BTGbullseye]

7 hours ago, Vishera said:

From the low quality of their drivers it looks like the driver team is just 2 people.

They really aren't low quality, and the amount of time from release of a completely new hardware architecture to stable drivers, is quite low for this particular release. 3 months is remarkably fast for a completely new architecture, (usually takes between 4 and 6 months) 1-2 months is typical for new iterations of existing architectures. (like going from GCN 4 to GCN 5)

 

Remember, they can't realistically test the drivers on all combinations of hardware, and in all games, and before release of the hardware. (it would cost way more money than any tech company is worth to do so) Give these companies some slack.

[Vishera]

6 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Remember, they can't realistically test the drivers on all combinations of hardware, and in all games, and before release of the hardware. (it would cost way more money than any tech company is worth to do so) Give these companies some slack.

Considering that Nvidia are doing pretty good job with their drivers,It's possible.

[xAcid9]

1 hour ago, Vishera said:

Considering that Nvidia are doing pretty good job with their drivers,It's possible.

Nvidia driver is not all fine and dandy though. 

[Zando_]

16 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Nvidia driver is not all fine and dandy though. 

^^^ I'm pretty sure AMD and Nvidia are about equal on the drivers front once both have had a few months to adjust for new cards (both always have issues after new launches). I've seen plenty of wack shit going down due to Nvidia drivers as well as AMD, as a general rule they're both usually fine. I've ran multiple cards from AMD and Nvidia, only thing I find oofies on AMD is that ReLive is kinda bleh, but that's a software thing, not drivers. Also Nvidia's Shadowplay, while much better, requires you to have an account to use it because.... reasons? AMD's drivers have a built in control panel, automatic or manual driver updates, all that stuff, without an account needed. Balances out the recording utility being a bit worse.