Vacras

I personally feel like windows gets way too much bad reputation anyways. As a software dev I have worked with Linux and MacOS extensively which I only heard good things about before trying them. As an avid gamer I have had years of windows experience beforehand and all I can say about either of these three operating systems is:
 
Each of them is garbage. Linux is better in some aspects, macOS wins here and there and Windows wipes the floor in other areas.
 
Especially MacOS, which is often praised for its stability, has crashed many more times for me than my gaming rig running windows 10 with overclocked hardware that has changed multiple times over the last few years without reinstalling the os.
 
Linux on the other hand sometimes just feels like a glorified CLI with some UI elements to make it seem like it’s an everyday joe’s os. I strongly agree with the point being made that Linux is in many instances not usable without using the command line. Until it improves in that regard Linux will never become a mainstream os like some like to claim.
 
If I had to give a recommendation to people for setting up a new install and they want to avoid as much hassle as possible: just stick with windows. It supports so much hardware and software combinations that you will rarely run into issues when running any somewhat “normal” hardware from the last 10 years.

can't give a citation, because i meant it more in the future tense, Linux is barely known by most people, W11 might be the thing that drives anything close to a substantial amount people towards it, so my experience or some equivalent is likely to be what most people will experience when they switch over, it's just the nature of Linux being so disjointed and broken between different distros with different support models and repositories.
So maybe my issues stem from my chosen distro, but then it's not exactly a great experience to download multiple .ISOs, keep installing different distros until you find the one that just works out of the box on your particular set of hardware.
To quote you from a previous thread
 
 
except that you put them together in the same sentence, i've never had a trackpad not work on any device i've had, even after a fresh install of windows because i never keep the OEM OS.
 
literally the wording of what i said. the majority of people using windows 10 would have a better experience using windows 10 than they would using Linux, whether that be because of familiarity, current use case or supported hardware. The people that complain about windows updates breaking things, or weird issues that crop up are the ones that shout the loudest, the people that have no issues, or tiny things that they barely notice are not going to post about it on the internet.
in a vacuum, who knows, we'd have to get together a whole bunch of people who have never used a computer before, start half of them on Linux and the other half on Windows and then at some point, get them to try the other one and see what they say about the one they haven't used before. Maybe my experience would be different if i started on linux before windows, but that also doesn't make my current experience invalid.
 
As they should and have every right to. I'm not saying windows is the superior OS in every possible way. I'm saying it's in a better state for "most people" (literally) than Linux is, again whether that be because of the above or the monolithic support they have for a massive range of hardware. for people that only use a browser, yes they should go a chromebook, which is what i generally suggest to people anyway.
 
Good. things do need to be more simple. But right NOW, which is what i'm talking about, Windows is more simple than Linux given my experience with it, it's more likely to "just work" for the majority of "normal" hardware. Whether this be because of familiarity, but trying to look objectively, downloading a driver off a website and double clicking the .exe to install sure is simpler than opening up a terminal and typing sudo apt install xxxxx/sudo pacman -S xxxxx and watching a whole bunch of alien language flying by until it stops and hoping what you just did works.
 
depends on what you define as an "issue" with windows
 
 
 
Not sure what to tell you other than, tough luck. Works on my machines. Never had an update break anything, never had anything just stop working, never had a virus, never had programs stop working (but i have on linux). so either i'm the luckiest person in the world, or you can only hear those that are crying out.
 
If i had to rank the desktop OSs in terms of usability for a "normal person", one that just likes to use their browser if you desire that classification to be there, it would be:
 
ChromeOS MacOS Windows ## Linux this is assuming a person has just bought their computer and is tech-illiterate and has no outside help to get things set up.
 
Let's say it's time to update, i'm only going to use Windows and Linux since i haven't used ChromeOS or MacOS (in a personal sense). this is what both my machines say on the main update screen
 
Windows:
Feature update to Windows 10, Version 21H1
The next version of Windows is available with new features and security improvements. When you're ready for the update, select "Download and install."
 
 
Linux:
System updates
libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18
-2.32-4.0ubuntu0.21.04.1 -> 2.34.1-0ubuntu0.21.04.1
 
libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37
-2.32.4-0ubuntu0.21.04.1 -> 2.34.1-0ubunutu0.21.04.1
 
pop-launcher
1.0.3~1635692914`21.04~170c6bb
 
Update All
 
 
 
Which one is simpler and more user friendly?
 
Linux may be more stable and reliable, but it's not user friendly by any stretch of the imagination and if you have incompatibilities with anything, to the CLI you go and pasting things that you don't really understand which i would say is more dangerous than an installation wizard in Windows.
 
 
 
But it seems like i'm not allowed to air out my frustrations with Linux without people saying "but windows is bad too" (it's not the first time and sure won't be the last). yeah it is, every OS sucks in some way, but that doesn't make Linux better.
You're allowed to have your issues with windows, I'm allowed to have my issues with Linux and we're both allowed to hate our respective OSs at the same time without either person being wrong. (i am still using it despite all my frustrations)
 
EDIT:
To quote you from a previous thread
"I'm not asking for perfection. I am asking for things to not be shit."

Interested to see how it evolves over the next few (1-3) years.
I’ve always felt like it’s the final touch and polishing with regards of long term support that held back steam hardware.

Interested to see how it evolves over the next few (1-3) years.
I’ve always felt like it’s the final touch and polishing with regards of long term support that held back steam hardware.

What?...
 

I started to undervolt it as I wasn’t happy with it running at 90°C. AMD says it’s fine for the chip to operate at that temperature but it’s nothing I want my CPU to be at all the time.
 
I‘ve read loads of threads with people with NH-D15s having similar experiences as I do.
 
Like others have mentioned the 5800x is just a beast to cool.

I set the limits to 110 - 85 - 110 and the offset to -25 on mine with an air cooler and got temps down quite significantly hitting ~80C on Cinebench.

yeah for that your system is better. mine runs at stock, so rougly 2.9ghz boost when running The Witcher...

I’m in the same boat as OP. Bought a PC from a friend a few years ago with a Gigabyte X58-UD5 and i7 920. Since then I upgraded to a Xeon X5670 and 16GBs of Ram.
 
I don’t know exactly how old the parts are but the oldest must be the Motherboard or the CPU so I would guess 10-11 years by now.
 
That being said with Ryzen 5000 there finally might have come a time where this system will be sent to serve as my NAS

Glad you are liking your system so much
 
As for me when I do System memory stress test my cpu is at 100%

The Alpenföhn Brocken 3 is a nice option in my opinion.
 
Scratch that the Brocken is too high I just realized. That being said the Brocken ECO Advanced also is a nice option.  

I would be surprised if it was the best AMD CPU Intel has ever built

I would be surprised if it was the best AMD CPU Intel has ever built

I would be surprised if it was the best AMD CPU Intel has ever built

I would be surprised if it was the best AMD CPU Intel has ever built

I would be surprised if it was the best AMD CPU Intel has ever built

I would be surprised if it was the best AMD CPU Intel has ever built

I would be surprised if it was the best AMD CPU Intel has ever built

I would be surprised if it was the best AMD CPU Intel has ever built

I would be surprised if it was the best AMD CPU Intel has ever built

I would be surprised if it was the best AMD CPU Intel has ever built

I would be surprised if it was the best AMD CPU Intel has ever built

I would be surprised if it was the best AMD CPU Intel has ever built

I would be surprised if it was the best AMD CPU Intel has ever built

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