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You folks could do a video or something on you trying to run Windows in a Linux KVM environment with GPU passthrough, to show Gaming and Video Production under Linux with Windows as a slave.

It works like this, Linux uses the Intel HD graphics and does not use the PCIe graphics card, until you start the VM and it assigns the PCIe slot to the Windows VM.

You could do a performance comparison between native Windows and Windows under Linux KVM.
 
You never did a peoper Linux video, did you? :)

Like Wendell from TekSyndicate did here:




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1) Wasn't there a thread for suggestions?

2) I like this sort of stuff.

3) I'm not sure Linus would be into it though. If Logan/Wendell/Pistol/Qain/someone else at Tek Syndicate could make a more condensed version of this video, it'd be awesome.

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1) Wasn't there a thread for suggestions?

2) I like this sort of stuff.

3) I'm not sure Linus would be into it though. If Logan/Wendell/Pistol/Qain/someone else at Tek Syndicate could make a more condensed version of this video, it'd be awesome.

Im sure @Slick would be interested in it. He likes to tinker, doesn't he?

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SPYING SPYING SPYING. 

 

 

 

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Im sure @Slick would be interested in it. He likes to tinker, doesn't he?

Well let's hope so, since you've tagged him now :)

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You folks could do a video or something on you trying to run Windows in a Linux KVM environment with GPU passthrough, to show Gaming and Video Production under Linux with Windows as a slave.

It works like this, Linux uses the Intel HD graphics and does not use the PCIe graphics card, until you start the VM and it assigns the PCIe slot to the Windows VM.

You could do a performance comparison between native Windows and Windows under Linux KVM.

 

You never did a peoper Linux video, did you? :)

Like Wendell from TekSyndicate did here:

-snip-

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@LinusTech has expressed in the past that he has no desire to do anything Linux-related. I think this is really unfortunate and I believe he is doing a significant disservice to this tech community by avoiding Linux "until it's more popular/main stream" especially considering how much GNU/Linux is used in servers and for web development etc. It's a chicken and egg thing and this mentality isn't going to help Linux progress. I think he would be pleasantly surprised to see just how far Linux has come in the last 2 years. 

 

In this episode of The Tek, they talk about the reasons why Linux is not as "big" as it should be. 

 

Anyways, yeah, this idea and method of running windows in a Linux-hosted VM with passthrough to your GPU is really cool and has SO many benefits. I've been toying with the idea of running my system like this for quite some time now but I'm holding off until I've learned more about how to set it up properly. I love Linux and will be switching to it as my primary OS some time soon. Probably within the next year or so - depending on how development goes with this windows VM concept.

 

I want so much to be rid of windows altogether, but unfortunately it's necessary for the majority of the games I play. At least with this method, it can be kept contained and separate from your primary OS and only used when necessary. ;)

 

Have you tried this yourself yet? If so, how was your experience with setting it all up and getting it working properly?

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@LinusTech has expressed in the past that he has no desire to do anything Linux-related. I think this is really unfortunate and I believe he is doing a significant disservice to this tech community by avoiding Linux "until it's more popular/main stream" especially considering how much GNU/Linux is used in servers and for web development etc. It's a chicken and egg thing and this mentality isn't going to help Linux progress. I think he would be pleasantly surprised to see just how far Linux has come in the last 2 years. 

 

In this episode of The Tek, they talk about the reasons why Linux is not as "big" as it should be. 

 

Anyways, yeah, this idea and method of running windows in a Linux-hosted VM with passthrough to your GPU is really cool and has SO many benefits. I've been toying with the idea of running my system like this for quite some time now but I'm holding off until I've learned more about how to set it up properly. I love Linux and will be switching to it as my primary OS some time soon. Probably within the next year or so - depending on how development goes with this windows VM concept.

 

I want so much to be rid of windows altogether, but unfortunately it's necessary for the majority of the games I play. At least with this method, it can be kept contained and separate from your primary OS and only used when necessary. ;)

 

Have you tried this yourself yet? If so, how was your experience with setting it all up and getting it working properly?

I have set up everything successfully, except the GPU passthrough, as i do not have a second graphics card.

I can confirm that, if you plug in a USB device and expose it to the VM, it gets disconnected from the Linux host and gets connected to Windows direct. So latency is no problem for gamers.

Also, you can expose full USB Hubs and have multiple USB device and hot swap capability.

Performance on a CPU level is top notch. Works as if it was installed natively.

You can also run multiple VM's with different GPU's and hardware. So you have 3 operating systems on your PC on 3 monitors if you desire.

You could also run Mac OS X, Linux and Windows in a cross-over all at the same time. All having native performance.

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I have set up everything successfully, except the GPU passthrough, as i do not have a second graphics card.

I can confirm that, if you plug in a USB device and expose it to the VM, it gets disconnected from the Linux host and gets connected to Windows direct. So latency is no problem for gamers.

Also, you can expose full USB Hubs and have multiple USB device and hot swap capability.

Performance on a CPU level is top notch. Works as if it was installed natively.

You can also run multiple VM's with different GPU's and hardware. So you have 3 operating systems on your PC on 3 monitors if you desire.

You could also run Mac OS X, Linux and Windows in a cross-over all at the same time. All having native performance.

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So awesome, the things you can do with Linux. :) Shame so many people who could benefit from it just ignore it out of plain ignorance/lack of interest/knowledge. :(

 

This literally allows you to have your cake and eat it too. The best of both worlds. ;) 

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I don't even understand why anyone needs this...

 

but I have 0 uses for linux so maybe thats why

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I don't even understand why anyone needs this...

 

but I have 0 uses for linux so maybe thats why

It has many benefits.

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It has many benefits.

 

....

I see

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I see

No, really.

Data storage is better, as well as the file systems.

Partition management is better.

Device management is better.

Not have the need to update drivers.

Detailed system update statistics.

Big community/free support.

Better emulation.

Better Memory management/SWAP.

 

etc.

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No, really.

 

so yeah... nothing much that interests me

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