dx12 vs dx 11

[Catman007]

So, lately I am in search of the tests performed on dx11 and dx12. I was visiting my friend and he got Windows 12 lately and while testing the games he played this year (10+ games) on W8.1 he says he saw big improvement in fps. He wasn't specific but gain were over 20-30 fps in some games. His build is, to be simple, fx8320 + 270x. FX is slightly clocked from start. Because he got new system he certainly isn't gonna get W 8.1 again for sure but I am interested to see real gaming difference on AMD and Intel CPU's alike. All I can find online are drawing cells tests and its getting boring with this 10x then before stuff. Ok, I know you said it million times people. Its 10x whatever. I don't trust no one until I see gaming benchmarks. The friend I wrote about is pretty reliable guy. He is kind of a guy that does system on December 31 at 11pm cause its not behaving as it should be (happened at his house party and once on Christmas). His tests are on all setting possible to the point but noob haven't recorded old avg fps.  But as I said, according to his memory of the games he played gains are huge. Still, I would like to see some tests or hear from someone else who has done the same with their system. Btw tests he made were on 1080p just to add cause he believes its gonna get most gains for the FX on that resolution. And 270x to be fair isn't anything special on 1440p lol

[AlwaysFSX]

Your friend has Windows 12? Ask him how the economy is in the future.

 

There isn't enough out yet that runs on both DX11 and DX12 so I'd wait a while to get solid numbers to compare performance differences.

[lukky211111]

Your friend has Windows 12? Ask him how the economy is in the future.

 

There isn't enough out yet that runs on both DX11 and DX12 so I'd wait a while to get solid numbers to compare performance differences.

lmao

[Catman007]

Your friend has Windows 12? Ask him how the economy is in the future.

 

There isn't enough out yet that runs on both DX11 and DX12 so I'd wait a while to get solid numbers to compare performance differences.

 

Ofc he has W 12 he got it from Microsoft this week to run some tests. He works there ffs lol

I though its out by now so everyone has it cause he told me he will install it to my system

[TheDeadGhost]

Ofc he has W 12 he got it from Microsoft this week to run some tests. He works there ffs lol

I though its  out by now so everyone has it cause he told me he will install it to my system

You're thinking of DirectX12 not Windows 12. Windows 10 just came out.

[Lord_Karango17]

Ofc he has W 12 he got it from Microsoft this week to run some tests. He works there ffs lol

I though its out by now so everyone has it cause he told me he will install it to my system

Its windows 10 not 12

[Tim Drake]

Ofc he has W 12 he got it from Microsoft this week to run some tests. He works there ffs lol

I though its out by now so everyone has it cause he told me he will install it to my system

Windows 12 doesn't exist bud

[Catman007]

Its windows 10 not 12

 

O yes LMAO my bad sorry guys W 10 that comes with dx 12. Anyway question is the same has someone did some before and after tests?  Give a guy a brake I made a honest mistake just woke up lol

[TheDeadGhost]

O yes LMAO my bad sorry guys W 10 that comes with dx 12. Anyway question is the same has someone did some before and after tests?

Not many games use DX12 yet. Wait till the end of the year when games that are likely to use it come out.

[Catman007]

Hm, yes but still I would like to see some FX charts with new system to "kill" that question once and for all I mean, its gonna get gains for Intel too but not like Intel needed it. I did find some tests with i7- 4770 but really whats the point there

[xAcid9]

O yes LMAO my bad sorry guys W 10 that comes with dx 12. Anyway question is the same has someone did some before and after tests?  Give a guy a brake I made a honest mistake just woke up lol

You want Brembo or Wilwood? 

 

There is no game that support DX12 yet so no test can be done. 

[typographie]

20–30 FPS? In what game? Is that a minimum or an average, and how is your friend tracking that data? Can he share his specific findings with us?

 

If the gains are that large the PC gaming community is going to explode once it becomes public knowledge—and, honestly, if it were true I'd expect it would be known (or at least a rapidly spreading rumor) already.

[Nena Trinity]

Your game has DX12?

[Monarch]

The improvements your friend saw was because AMD reduced driver overhead. It was first only the W10 driver that had this improvement, but then they released 15.7 which works on 8.1 too and has the same improvement.

[Catman007]

No man he tested for example on Dying Light. He coudn't run it on w8.1 on 1080p all maxed. But yesterday on w10 he gets round 20 fps. From game he cant run at all and to avg 20 fps its awesome. He tested bunch of batman games too ( haven't played those so I don't know the names) and far cry 4, gta 5 and that witcher 3. Some games gain a lot and some gain small improvement. He says I should avoid update and get clean install to see real benefits that will come to my house in few days after the tests are over on his rig and I have far cray and wow on my brothers PC so I will do tests on those myself. I am gonna be happy with 5 fps lol 

[Lord_Karango17]

Hm, yes but still I would like to see some FX charts with new system to "kill" that question once and for all I mean, its gonna get gains for Intel too but not like Intel needed it. I did find some tests with i7- 4770 but really whats the point there

Amd mantle was a similar concept, so you can likely see the the improvement for fx processors in games like bf4 that worked with mantle.

[Monarch]

No man he tested for example on Dying Light. He coudn't run it on w8.1 on 1080p all maxed. But yesterday on w10 he gets round 20 fps. From game he cant run at all and to avg 20 fps its awesome. He tested bunch of batman games too ( haven't played those so I don't know the names) and far cry 4, gta 5 and that witcher 3. Some games gain a lot and some gain small improvement. He says I should avoid update and get clean install to see real benefits that will come to my house in few days after the tests are over on his rig and I have far cray and wow on my brothers PC so I will do tests on those myself. I am gonna be happy with 5 fps lol 

 

What driver did he use on 8.1?

[Catman007]

The improvements your friend saw was because AMD reduced driver overhead. It was first only the W10 driver that had this improvement, but then they released 15.7 which works on 8.1 too and has the same improvement.

 

Its not drivers its system thats way better man. The guy tested all. Online tests are nothing where he takes it. He takes effort to test even on low res with low settings on 10+ games. I think he knows about drivers cause he gets stuff earlier then most of ppl  To add in response not to write a lot  to Monarch he used newest drivers on both rigs. (some games were tested on his borthers rig same config just w8.1 both clean install)

[BuckGup]

PEOPLE! Nvidia released a DX12 driver by no means is it completely optimized nor are games that you have now. Devs will have to incorporate DX12 and then we can see the full power of it.

[Catman007]

Just called a guy and he said he tested only CPU intensive games like Dying Light, ARMA etc on both rigs from all the games he tested. Others were tested on his own rig. So in the end comparison comes to conclusion that those games really saw a difference on FX 8320 at least. Damn, that really puzzles me if other FX models are gonna "explode" in a good way. Btw I have intel i5 - 4460 and just reporting what is a difference a friend gained by testing w8.1 and w10. I am not AMD fanboy lol I am just happy they got some wind to sail the same sea. Well, maybe a river that goes in that sea lol.

 

Anyway my bro has APU a10-5800k and I am gonna test far cry 3 he has on it and after I get w10 gonna post results to see difference on that rig.