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Prove Me Wrong: Hyper 212 + 4690K @ 4.6 GHz

BigDay

there's no way this cooler is ready for a serious overclock in combo with the i5-4690k. it would be great for a 4590/4690 non-k or lower, but not for anything above

 

i'm getting sick of seeing it tossed around in builds

 

prove to me that it can hold a max load temperature of less than 85 degrees at an overclock of 4.6 ghz after running 15 minutes of intel extreme tuning utility or prime95 or aida64

 

doubt it, but i'm open to being proved wrong!

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It is man... It outperforms many other coolers, and is regarded as one of the best you can get without paying 150$+

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there's no way this cooler is ready for a serious overclock in combo with the i5-4690k. it would be great for a 4590/4690 non-k or lower, but not for anything above

 

i'm getting sick of seeing it tossed around in builds

 

prove to me that it can hold a max load temperature of less than 85 degrees at an overclock of 4.6 ghz after running 15 minutes of intel extreme tuning utility or prime95 or aida64

 

doubt it, but i'm open to being proved wrong!

Yeah wait till you see a 5GHz 8350 on itthen your head will be really going wtf is this shit.

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I know a few people who's showed us, The BeQuiet! Pure Rock would be a better contender though, it would have lower temps compared to the 212 Evo and be quieter.

 

 

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4.6ghz isn't exactly a common overclock on a 4690k anyway. Any chip that can hit 4.6ghz will probably run cool enough to get a pretty high overclock with a Hyper212. But a Hyper 212 is definitely enough to hit 4.2ghz for most people.

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i just need proof! once i see, i'll believe it and i'll shut my mouth and kick my own ass!

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It's an okay cooler, but of course it can't handle 4.6GHz/1.28V-1.30V (throwing a voltage out there) at under 85C at load. It's not possible unless your ambient is that low and your fans are that fast at moving air or unless you have a god-like chip that can do that clockspeed at something under say 1.265V.

 

However, for the around $30 that one costs, there are better options.

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Yeah... That cooler could probably do that.

 

It is actually surprisingly powerful.

 

And, if you have a really good OC-Chip, You would be suprised.

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i just need proof! once i see, i'll believe it and i'll shut my mouth

My seidon 240m can't even manage that at 4.4ghz. It all depends on the chip.

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my antec kuhler h20 620 @ 120mm keeps my 4.6 ghz @ 1.30v, 4.5 cache @ 1.32v lower than 80 degrees on max load with XTU

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http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/cm_hyper212_evo/4.htm

and even hotter chip, i7 920 even overclocked load. happy?

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It depends on the chip, if you lucked out on the silicon lottery, sure. You could OC to 4.8GHz if you wanted/needed to.

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my antec kuhler h20 620 @ 120mm keeps my 4.6 ghz @ 1.30v, 4.5 cache @ 1.32v lower than 80 degrees on max load with XTU

Congratulations on hitting the lottery.

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It is man... It outperforms many other coolers, and is regarded as one of the best you can get without paying 150$+

You're overselling the 212. There are significantly better coolers for $40-50, and much better ones for $65.

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My seidon 240m can't even manage that at 4.4ghz. It all depends on the chip.

Mine could hardly manage it (I ran a Seidon 240M and an i5 3570K.) It could pull 4.6GHz/1.32V, but it had to be at full fan speed and was loading at 85-90C.

 

Now, my H110i GT though. It can take my i7 at 4.8GHz/1.4V at those temps. Pull back the clocks to 4.6GHz/1.3V and it handles it reasonably well, rarely leaving the 70C-78C range.

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You're overselling the 212. There are significantly better coolers for $40-50, and much better ones for $65.

for the price not above the price....

for 27 dollers not 40 dollers..

 

 

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It is man... It outperforms many other coolers, and is regarded as one of the best you can get without paying 150$+

It cools well, doesnt mean it is THAT good. It IS good, no denying that, but it is also overhyped.

 

You are also dumping it into your CASE, which means the mosfet of your mobo will experience higher ambient temps, like with any air cooler.

For best budget cooling, you are better off with a 40 USD Cooler Master Seidon 120mm radiator. Not because it is 100% sure to be better then the 212, most likely they are equal or the 212 may even inch ahead. BUT, a radiator will dump the heat outside the case, allowing for more stable operation as the mobo wont have to deal with a shitton of ambient heat in the case.

 

Even in a case with GREAT airflow, ambient temps WILL rise by using air cooling rather then liquid. That is just the reality of things.

 

 

EDIT:

also note that the reason there is OTHER air coolers out there, that cost more, is because THEY MAKE LESS NOISE....

 

in regards to the 212. You pay for what you get. It has excellent cooling, but the rest of it is NOT that excellent.

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You're overselling the 212. There are significantly better coolers for $40-50, and much better ones for $65.

150 is a touch high I'll warrant, but it's price, performance, and level of noise still all back up its pseudo legendary status in pc building.

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It is man... It outperforms many other coolers, and is regarded as one of the best you can get without paying 150$+

It's regarded by people who know a thing or two as a decent value with options for a similar price that beat it. It's regarded by people with lesser knowledge as the best choice because of the communities that keep that thought alive. It's not bad, but there were, are and will continue to be better options at the same price or similar.

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It cools well, doesnt mean it is THAT good. It IS good, no denying that, but it is also overhyped.

 

You are also dumping it into your CASE, which means the mosfet of your mobo will experience higher ambient temps, like with any air cooler.

For best budget cooling, you are better off with a 40 USD Cooler Master Seidon 120mm radiator. Not because it is 100% sure to be better then the 212, most likely they are equal or the 212 may even inch ahead. BUT, a radiator will dump the heat outside the case, allowing for more stable operation as the mobo wont have to deal with a shitton of ambient heat in the case.

 

Even in a case with GREAT airflow, ambient temps WILL rise by using air cooling rather then liquid. That is just the reality of things.

A rad also adds another level of complexity/failure/noise. Those budget AIOs are usually not worth the money -- the added heat you're dumping on the mosfets is largely irrelevant. (I've ran my 4690k w/ a Seidon 240m as both intake and exhaust and intake is able to maintain the same oc while allowing cooler temps due to using cold outside air)

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150 is a touch high I'll warrant, but it's price, performance, and level of noise still all back up its pseudo legendary status in pc building.

The reason for that status has less to do with price/performance and acoustics and more to do with exposure and the amount of times it has been suggested.

 

It's like how Linus and others say not to sit your motherboard on the anti-static bag because it has static electricity built up in it while actually performing that action won't kill anything. Because important people say not to do it, you don't do it even if it doesn't matter at all.

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