Sony: 1080p 60fps Makes A Huge Difference

[ApolloEleven]

But isn't Uncharted 4 1080p @ 30FPS?

If they say games these days should be targeting 60FPS then why are they still making a 30FPS game?

[Sharkyx1]

But isn't Uncharted 4 1080p @ 30FPS?

If they say games these days should be targeting 60FPS then why are they still making a 30FPS game?

Because saying 1080 60 is good doesn't mean you should never make 30fps games again

ND wanted 108060 for UC4 but they couldn't get all the way there and they didn't

want to cut stuff from the game

[ApolloEleven]

Well I wouldn't make another 30FPS game after being stuck at sub-720p and inconsistent 30FPS for 7 years with my PS3.

60FPS or nothing.

 

That is why I am holding off playing Skyrim, ARMA 3, Witcher 2 and many other games in my Steam library until I can buy an i7 because my FX-8350 couldn't maintain a solid 60FPS in these games even with an AMD R9 290 (high CPU usage + low GPU usage -> bottleneck). Recent games such as Battlefield 4 I get 100+FPS on 1080p Ultra settings (Medium CPU usage + high GPU usage -> good optimisation), but older games just don't like the FX-8350.

[Syntaxvgm]

I pay for PSN anyway for the free games, which i think its really worth it

 

yeah it sucks but meh its not too much money and  the exclusives I really do want to play

I pay McDonalds for free burgers and hookers for free happy endings 

[ShadowCaptain]

I pay McDonalds for free burgers and hookers for free happy endings 

 

Sign me up

[ArcLights]

"But the human eye can't see more than 24 FPS"

Great try gaming at constant 24 FPS

[SkywardKkalox]

Uncharted at 1080p 60, very excited

I'm more excited for 1080p 60fps MGS 5.

[ShadowCaptain]

I'm more excited for 1080p 60fps MGS 5.

 

Well I am going to play it on PC so.... 1440p 60fps for me, unless I get a new monitor  

[SkywardKkalox]

Well I am going to play it on PC so.... 1440p 60fps for me, unless I get a new monitor  

144hz or go home!

[ShadowCaptain]

144hz or go home!

 

Well when I get around to upgrading my PC that will happen

 

for now It does the job fine and I cant afford anything else

[NateGSR117]

About time they stop lieing to themselves

[Whiskers]

Agreed Sony. And though you will never agree to this, your console it's just flatout not capable of sustained 60fps for recent games that are not PS3 remades. So what should we expect then? Kinda doubt it will be a PS5 this soon.

 

Also the logical step would be for them to just release a Playstation store software for the PC and compete with Valve bringing their titles but I kinda doubt that they're too well, Japanese, to admit defeat like that.

 

No what I think is that they will come up with a PS4 "the nicer version" and just sell PS4 branded consoles with improved hardware, possibly even a dedicated GPU. For a lot more $ than the current one but they will just made games "backwards compatible" with the current, poor people version of their PS4

 

I know it sounds out there but trust me, it will happen they're just paving the way.

 

I must disagree.

 

The PS4 is perfectly capable of rendering games with a decent graphical fidelity at 1920x1080, 60 frames per second. A very large number of titles on the system currently do this, and for many which don't it could arguably be attributed to a lack of optimisation.

 

In any case, it is absolutely  that they will release a more powerful version of the PS4. Never in the history of PlayStation (nor for that matter any console brand that I can recall) has this been done, and they are very unlikely to be setting such a precedent now. The console is still powerful enough to run games to a decent level for the masses, and launching a more powerful version now would be a foolish long-term business move. (It would cause fragmentation in the marketplace, increase difficulty and complexity for developers and lessen the gap between the PS4 and PS5 thus giving users less reason to upgrade in future.)

[GeathX]

 

I must disagree.

 

The PS4 is perfectly capable of rendering games with a decent graphical fidelity at 1920x1080, 60 frames per second. A very large number of titles on the system currently do this, and for many which don't it could arguably be attributed to a lack of optimisation.

 

In any case, it is absolutely  that they will release a more powerful version of the PS4. Never in the history of PlayStation (nor for that matter any console brand that I can recall) has this been done, and they are very unlikely to be setting such a precedent now. The console is still powerful enough to run games to a decent level for the masses, and launching a more powerful version now would be a foolish long-term business move. (It would cause fragmentation in the marketplace, increase difficulty and complexity for developers and lessen the gap between the PS4 and PS5 thus giving users less reason to upgrade in future.)

 

 

Indeed, launching now wouldnt give a graphical jump worthy enough. In a couple of years, slam a HBM2/3 GPU with a decent 6 or 8 core cpu 32GB (maybe 64 who knows), Min 1TB/s memory bandwith and enough power for 4k at 60fps, 250w power usage, done

[linuxfan66]

Consoles with PC comparable performance and low power usage while maintaining a profit margin are not viable at the moment. We really need to let a couple of years pass so a good spec console is actually viable

[GoldSrc]

You don't get it done you ? 30 FPS is perfectly smooth for me, it isn't as smooth as 60 FPS but it's still fine.

I'm sorry but 30FPS is not smooth, it is consistent, but far from smooth.

Just by the fact that each frame in videogames is rendered perfect and there's no such thing as natural motion blur, 30FPS is not smooth.

[escape093]

I would go with 30FPS over 60FPS and crappy graphics unless atheistic are pleasing.

 

Yeah, cause actually playing the game isn't the whole point...

[Misanthrope]

 

I must disagree.

 

The PS4 is perfectly capable of rendering games with a decent graphical fidelity at 1920x1080, 60 frames per second. 

 

How come most major titles only do 900p then? Sorry but if they do reach it, the "decent graphical fidelity" part is questionable at best since its low to medium detail compared to PC.

[79wjd]

How come most major titles only do 900p then? Sorry but if they do reach it, the "decent graphical fidelity" part is questionable at best since its low to medium detail compared to PC.

poor optimizations 

[Bouzoo]

Uncharted at 1080p 60, very excited

 

Sadly, except the new one

 

http://www.vg247.com/2015/07/02/uncharted-4-is-1080p30fps-in-single-player-multiplayer-shooting-for-60fps/

[Sharkyx1]

How come most major titles only do 900p then? Sorry but if they do reach it, the "decent graphical fidelity" part is questionable at best since its low to medium detail compared to PC.

Because "most major titles" don't, the only 900p titles on ps4 are DICE Games, Watch Dogs, AC Unity, and EA UFC.

[Misanthrope]

Because "most major titles" don't, the only 900p titles on ps4 are DICE Games, Watch Dogs, AC Unity, and EA UFC.

 

So all we accomplished is exposing the tiny amount of actually new games on the PS4 since most of the time we go "oh, yeah Madden and Fifa same engine as before" and "Oh, last of us and other PS3 remakes" and so on and so forth.

[Sharkyx1]

So all we accomplished is exposing the tiny amount of actually new games on the PS4 since most of the time we go "oh, yeah Madden and Fifa same engine as before" and "Oh, last of us and other PS3 remakes" and so on and so forth.

But then you are missing the vast majority of games which are 1080.

Shadow of Mordor, Alien Isolation, Batman Arkham Knight, Infamous Second Son, Project Car's, Witcher 3, Evolve, Driveclub, Bloodborne, Metro Redux, MGSV and so on

99% of games on PS4 are 1080, id guess 10% are 60fps

[Yoinkerman]

Ill take downgraded gfx to get 1080p/60 every single time

[cesrai]

Yeah, cause actually playing the game isn't the whole point...

While I get what you're saying but athletics and graphics have a great effect on the experience for me, unless it's an FPS games I'm fine with everything on low except for the models. 

 

I'm sorry but 30FPS is not smooth, it is consistent, but far from smooth.

Just by the fact that each frame in videogames is rendered perfect and there's no such thing as natural motion blur, 30FPS is not smooth.

*shurgs* it's smooth for me, everyone has different standards, 30 FPS is perfectly fine for me and it's smooth.

[Misanthrope]

But then you are missing the vast majority of games which are 1080.

Shadow of Mordor, Alien Isolation, Batman Arkham Knight, Infamous Second Son, Project Car's, Witcher 3, Evolve, Driveclub, Bloodborne, Metro Redux, MGSV and so on

99% of games on PS4 are 1080, id guess 10% are 60fps

1080p30fps is like getting a blow job where you don't get to cum: just teasing but not worth your time.