x4 860k vs G3258?

[MattTheMayor]

Which one is better overall? I'm having trouble deciding for my friend's build because the g3258 has a better upgrade path, but the 860k has 4 cores* (idk if its the same thing as the fx processors where it's actually 4 cores?)

[blueballs]

g3258

[byalexandr]

Which one is better overall? I'm having trouble deciding for my friend's build because the g3258 has a better upgrade path, but the 860k has 4 cores* (idk if its the same thing as the fx processors where it's actually 4 cores?)

G3258. Even though it's only two cores, they are MUCH more powerful than the 860K.

[Aniallation]

860K for AAA gaming

G3258 for single-threaded gaming like MMOs and MOBAs, if you can't afford to just step up to an i3.

[Aniallation]

g3258

G3258. Even though it's only two cores, they are MUCH more powerful than the 860K.

Unless you play recent demanding titles, which stutter to hell with two cores even if they're more powerful. G3258 cores are not twice as powerful as 860K cores.

 

 (idk if its the same thing as the fx processors where it's actually 4 cores?)

It's the two modules with two cores thing, but it's better implemented then it is in FX.

[Sam Z Man]

Some games have frame drops so low they become a slide by slide powerpoint on a dual core, the 860K is the best cheap cpu for pc gamers who are not crazy into hardware like us, because if they aren't crazy into hardware they most likely won't upgrade the cpu ever.

[SkilledRebuilds]

UPGRADE PATHS

Intel ftw. Even if its shit at the start with a dualcore, you'll end up with a much faster system on the next CPU upgrade when you move to the i3/i5 arena, the X4 can't upgrade much at all to anything substantially good.

 

Intel Dualcore+Upgrade at a later date is not the enthusiast level dedicated moneypit people think it is, its smart buying considering what that x4 is truly capable of (or lacking) with more powerful hardware.

UPGRADE PATHS

[Hieb]

Neither is good enough for modern games. Athlon 860K will very easily bottleneck modern video cards, and the G3258 is very limited by having only two threads... that's just not enough for modern titles. Given the choice I would go 860K unless you think he won't be playing triple A games.

 

Ideally you should look into a Core i3. It will handily outperform the Athlon 860K and Pentium G3258 in games.

 

However if you're absolutely stuck to either the 860K or G3258... get the G3258 if he doesn't play many triple A titles or if you think he'll be able to upgrade shortly. Get the 860K if he just needs a CPU that will provide acceptable performance in all types of games for as long as possible.

[Faceman]

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[ANewFace]

Austin Evans did a vid on this.

[SkilledRebuilds]

Austin Evans did a vid on this.

Gotta be careful with those,... how relevant it can be due to how long the video has been up for...

/I didn't watch it, and its no doubt fine,.. but Im a little wary of those best build video's after a little bit of time...

/Watched it after all, less of an issue, nice post.

 

I'd still think about upgrade paths tho...

[Trivecta]

Get the G3258 with a good motherboard for overclocking. Much better performance now and better upgradeability for the future

[Sam Z Man]

Gotta be careful with those,... how relevant it can be due to how long the video has been up for...

/I didn't watch it, and its no doubt fine,.. but Im a little wary of those best build video's after a little bit of time...

/Watched it after all, less of an issue, nice post.

 

I'd still think about upgrade paths tho...

It's almost a year old so pretty dated.

[Sam Z Man]

Ask your friend if he ever plans on upgrading in the near future or playing triple A titles, make the decision based on that.

[kipper]

4790k.

[SkilledRebuilds]

The G3258 may indeed STILL be faster in gaming with less cores, cos those lesser cores, do more work per cycle. (1.65x)

Yet those four cores may have lower usage, but less performance.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Both are pretty bad, get an i3.

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[IateMApoo]

860K all the way

[FellTheSky]

Unless you play recent demanding titles, which stutter to hell with two cores even if they're more powerful. G3258 cores are not twice as powerful as 860K cores.

 

They are twice as powerful as the 860k cores

 

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/06/24/intel-pentium-g3258-review/6

6800k and 860k performance is basically the same apart from the integrated GPU that the 860k doesnt have

 

Though the stutter part may be true, i havent got one to confirm it

[Prysin]

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What faceman said.

 

Seriously though, the G3258 is a TOY that you use for overclocking lulz. It is not a serious thing you should use. The 860k is more "all round" better but has "nowhere to go" once you need something newer and stronger later on.

 

If the rig is meant to do simple tasks, like say an office rig that will be used until death. FM2+ with either a 860k + Nvidia card (for CUDA) or a A10 7870k APU makes sense. (it will be around i3 price point as you doesnt need extra coolers for FM2+ unless you OC it quite a bit. The stock AMD cooler is rated for 130-150W thermal capacity if i remember correctly. So it can handle even a mildly OCd 7870k, but nothing major like 4.3GHz core + 1050 Mhz iGPU core.

 

And that is it. Forget the G3258 unless you are looking for shits and giggles. It aint worth it.

[DigitalHermit]

Purpose or use case?

 

Upgrading to an i5 (or better) soon (less than 1 year)? G3258 else 860k...

 

you can reuse other parts aside from the mobo and CPU if you decide to switch...

[Prysin]

They are twice as powerful as the 860k cores

 

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/06/24/intel-pentium-g3258-review/6

6800k and 860k performance is basically the same apart from the integrated GPU that the 860k doesnt have

 

Though the stutter part may be true, i havent got one to confirm it

NOPE

LOL NOPETY NOPE

 

6800K is codename "RICHLAND". Old Architecture based upon Bulldozer/Jaguar (newest consoles)

 

860k is STEAMROLLER. Which has improved IPC over Piledriver/Richland. The 6800k sometimes beats the 860k because it has higher power limits and clock speeds. But it isnt the same in any regards. Both energy efficience wise nor IPC wise.

 

Steamroller is the closest AMD got on Intel ATM, for desktops. Excavator (Carizzo) which is laptop only (sadface) will launch soon. That is probably the only architecture revision of Bulldozer that holds a actual chance of competing with I3 even on single core performance. However, that is laptop only so we will never see a 65 or 95w version for desktop, which is a darn shame.

[FellTheSky]

NOPE

LOL NOPETY NOPE

 

 

Thats a really cool story bro, but you are not showing known sites to corroborate what you are saying. There hasnt been any improvement on single thread performance on APUS since ages (since the first APU to the last there must be 10% in TOTAL). But should i trust more to people that makes actual reviews and have both products or to someone who response is "LOL NOPETY NOPE"?. I will leave that to your criteria

[Nena Trinity]

Get the Athlon X4 cause it has 4 cores and 4 treads! But if you can afford i3 that is even better!

 

Edit: Pentium can upgrade to i5 and i7 but Athlon can only be upgraded to A10-7870K... (for now)

[Aniallation]

They are twice as powerful as the 860k cores

 

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/06/24/intel-pentium-g3258-review/6

Because double of 2.73 is 3.59, and double of 3.96 is 4.02. Good job.