Fiji will not be a Titan X killer?!?!?!?!?

[zMeul]

source: http://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/43996/computex-amd-toont-fiji-videokaart-achter-gesloten-deuren
 
so, this rumor goes like this:
 

As the first generation High Bandwidth Memory is limited to 4 GB per GPU, the remarkable situation where the new top model gets less memory than the underneath positioned 390X. You come to that limit because by these two gigabit HBM is present, up to four can be stacked and AMD four such  stacks which can lose the GPU.
 
A Titan X-killer we do not expect: we caught on that the performance level slightly below that of the Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 Ti would be. For this purpose, the clock frequency will increase to more than 1 GHz. The power was called 'under the 300 watt, "we probably can deduce that the consumption above that of the 980 Ti and Titan X will lie. Namely both those cards have a TDP of 250 watts, which is often not achieved in practice.

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it this would be true, and I hope to god it isn't .. for AMD's sake, I would literally roll on the floor laughing my ass off for an hour 

[Oshino Shinobu]

It's okay, the 980Ti has already done that. 

[Samfisher]

4GB won't make it a non-Titan X killer though.  Sure super hi-res might be a problem but you'll run out of GPU power steam before VRAM becomes an issue.

[Toddwjp]

i think there new top of the line gpu will perform between a 980 and a 980ti while being cheaper then a 980 ti

[C0LL0SS0S]

They can ignore the titan, they should kill the 980 ti, otherwise it will be the best card until Pascal

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Still waiting for some legit news...

[Techhog]

i think there new top of the line gpu will perform between a 980 and a 980ti while being cheaper then a 980 ti

$850 is pretty much confirmed. If it really performs below the 980 Ti, they need to end production immediately and cut their losses.

[Dabombinable]

4GB won't make it a non-Titan X killer though.  Sure super hi-res might be a problem but you'll run out of GPU power steam before VRAM becomes an issue.

With the Titan X yes, other sub 8GB cards however will run out of vRAM since games can already push over 6Gb vRAM. (Not dual GPU cards or the 290X-I'm looking at you R9 295 X2)

[Raudi_]

Idk there is a chance seeing as there are 3 different Single GPU Fiji cards planned from AMD and 1 dual GPU Fiji card planned according to some rumors at least the Fiji Pro (entry Fiji) will be 599$ with 4GB of HBM Fiji XT will be 849$ with 4GB of HBM

[Bouzoo]

If the rumor about 8GB HBM turns out to be true, who knows, we might see the case like 290x which performs better than 970 on higher resolutions but is on pair/lower on 1080p (considering some manufacturer had that add about in being a 4k card).

[bogus]

What kind of topic is this!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[SpaghettiCarbonara]

"As the first generation High Bandwidth Memory is limited to 4 GB per GPU, the remarkable situation where the new top model gets less memory than the underneath positioned 390X. You come to that limit because by these two gigabit HBM is present, up to four can be stacked and AMD four such  stacks which can lose the GPU."

 

As far as I can tell, the amount of space on each chip is fairly unimportant considering HBM has a much higher bandwidth than GDDR5, isn't it?

 

 

Right?

 

No?

 

If so, than 4GB of HBM would be equal to... I don't know, much more than 4GB.

 

Edit: I can't tell the difference between GB/s and GB/s per watt. Changed image.

[Me1z]

What kind of topic is this!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

A pointless one. The speculative speculations based on rumors of leaked specifications aims to amuse and confuse both idiot and genius alike. The bottom line is that no one actually knows anything. At all.

[SkilledRebuilds]

If the past is ANYTHING to go by...New flagships beat the competitions flagships by 5-10%.

 

Rinse and Repeat for each generation between each company.

[MonkeyFace]

AMD showed Fury's appearance...the end. 

 

Can't wait till June 16th! 

[Biased Opinion]

"As the first generation High Bandwidth Memory is limited to 4 GB per GPU, the remarkable situation where the new top model gets less memory than the underneath positioned 390X. You come to that limit because by these two gigabit HBM is present, up to four can be stacked and AMD four such  stacks which can lose the GPU."

 

As far as I can tell, the amount of space on each chip is fairly unimportant considering HBM has a much higher bandwidth than GDDR5, isn't it?

 

 

 

Right?

 

No?

 

If so, than 4GB of HBM would be equal to... I don't know, much more than 4GB.

thtas only a factor if memory bandwidth is a bottleneck in the first place. If the issue is that there is just not enough memory then bandwidth means very little.

[Maslofski]

who cares about the titan X? you need to beat the 980ti, thats nvidias best card overall

[SteveGrabowski0]

source: http://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/43996/computex-amd-toont-fiji-videokaart-achter-gesloten-deuren

 

so, this rumor goes like this:

 

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it this would be true, and I hope to god it isn't .. for AMD's sake, I would literally roll on the floor laughing my ass off for an hour 

 

I wouldn't, GPU prices are already high enough without Nvidia having a monopoly on discrete GPUs yet.

[NAP51DMustang]

"As the first generation High Bandwidth Memory is limited to 4 GB per GPU, the remarkable situation where the new top model gets less memory than the underneath positioned 390X. You come to that limit because by these two gigabit HBM is present, up to four can be stacked and AMD four such  stacks which can lose the GPU."

 

As far as I can tell, the amount of space on each chip is fairly unimportant considering HBM has a much higher bandwidth than GDDR5, isn't it?

 

 

Right?

 

No?

 

If so, than 4GB of HBM would be equal to... I don't know, much more than 4GB.

Do you even know what that graph is (poorlly) showing? That graph in no way shows what you are trying to say it does.

[jaggysnake57]

FFS can we stop with the random rumor posting at the absolute minimum label the post rumor or better dont post it all

[Sintezza]

A big load of clickbate nonsense again lol.

we will see what they bring to the table wenn they are finaly released.

I dont realy care if its going to be a Titan X killer or not by the way.

[zMeul]

I wouldn't, GPU prices are already high enough without Nvidia having a monopoly on discrete GPUs yet.

I would

it's still going out in flame anyways, why wouldn't it end in a blaze of glory - more spectacular

[SpaghettiCarbonara]

Do you even know what that graph is (poorlly) showing? That graph in no way shows what you are trying to say it does.

 

Well I did, but the more I think about it, you're right. It's damn similar to the one that shows the actual GB/s though. Still, it is showing much higher bandwidth in a round-about way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

I'll edit in the proper one.

 

Edit: And it doesn't even look that similar. I'll just get off the computer now haha

[Elapo]

source: http://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/43996/computex-amd-toont-fiji-videokaart-achter-gesloten-deuren

 

so, this rumor goes like this:

 

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it this would be true, and I hope to god it isn't .. for AMD's sake, I would literally roll on the floor laughing my ass off for an hour 

 

Err, it was like this with the titan and 290x too? Titan cards usually stay on top of the next series of AMD cards. The GTX Titan is still (slightly) faster than the 290x, despite being released half a year earlier (the previous cycle). It's a 1k$ GPU, it'd better stay the best GPU available for a while.