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Am i the only person in the world that wants a thicker ,cooler laptop ?

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what is up with high end laptops that are paper thin  that try to cool it self with high rpm fans

 

the only midrange thick laptops are the T series at lenovo

everything else will give u paper cuts

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I was about to come here and slap clevo in your face like linus slaps linda.com in it, but I relise you are talking about non-gaming, workstation or home use laptops. 

Yah, I agree. It kinda sucks. 

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I was about to come here and slap clevo in your face like linus slaps linda.com in it, but I relise you are talking about non-gaming, workstation or home use laptops. 

Yah, I agree. It kinda sucks. 

yeah i was talking about midrange

i holding on my T530 for dear life 

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A lot of people who do not know a lot about specs will just pick the best looking laptop in their budget, these are also receiving the most marketing for the same reason. The not as good looking ones with decent specs don't need as much marketing because people who are knowledgeable on the subject will research for themselves. 

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I use a MSI GT70 for everything but gaming, but having decent a thick battery(although mine is dead) and user access to the components is nice. I also like that its a full featured machine, I don't have to carry a separate DVD drive or USB hub to do simple things. I widh laptops would get thicker again, but the market won't push for it.

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what is up with high end laptops that are paper thin  that try to cool it self with high rpm fans

 

the only midrange thick laptops are the T series at lenovo

everything else will give u paper cuts

I think the current trend is "thin". That's why even non-gaming workstation laptop is getting thinner and thinner. :( Kind of sux, this I agree.

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All I want is a notebook that is super thin, touchscreen, detachable tablet, with more graphics horsepower than CPU.

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I wouldn't mind a laptop that was massive and heavy, as long as it allows me to game at decent temps with decent CPU/GPU performance. Anything is better than the idea of lugging around my Phanteks Enthoo Pro...

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This thick enough?

37-panasonic-toughbook.jpg

 

/sarcasm

 

Also, obligatory "that's what she said".

 

Back on topic, people want portability. Laptops aren't made for gaming. You can get a more powerful desktop for less. If you already have a good desktop, there's no point in getting the most powerful laptop out there. Just one powerful enough, but portable.

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All I want is a notebook that is super thin, touchscreen, detachable tablet, with more graphics horsepower than CPU.

u living in lala land ? or do u want it to also cook ur steak

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Problem is not enough people want them. Most who use/purchase a laptop, either need something light and portable or something powerful (think gaming laptops) that is also portable. The mid range thick notebook is usually not all that powerful and not all that lightweight. It doesn't help that many people will base purchasing decisions on looks, and the midrange thick laptop is rather ugly.

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what is up with high end laptops that are paper thin  that try to cool it self with high rpm fans

 

the only midrange thick laptops are the T series at lenovo

everything else will give u paper cuts

Yeah. Blame the craze for thin/light tech. Laptops are entering another realm of soldered-everything in a quest for "thin". Heat be damned, you'll buy a new one in a year or two and without any choice for laptops that won't do this, you're forced to live with it or live without it.

 

I was about to come here and slap clevo in your face like linus slaps linda.com in it, but I relise you are talking about non-gaming, workstation or home use laptops. 

Yah, I agree. It kinda sucks. 

I was about to come in and say "you're not the only one" myself but then I realized he just has some bloody sense and isn't asking about gaming machines myself. It brings a tear to my eye when I see someone with a good eye for quality *sniff*

 

Back on topic, people want portability. Laptops aren't made for gaming. You can get a more powerful desktop for less. If you already have a good desktop, there's no point in getting the most powerful laptop out there. Just one powerful enough, but portable.

1 - Just because something is a bit thick or weighs 7 pounds doesn't mean it's not portable. There is no desktop on the planet, I do not care how small you make your mITX builds, that you can shove a keyboard, mouse, monitor, system case, speakers and wifi card, into a backpack and walk. It does not happen. That is why laptops exist. What people REALLY WANT is their bags to weigh as little as possible. Back in the 90s when people only had super thick laptops, people DEALT WITH THE WEIGHT. Nobody was complaining that it's too thick and they need something thinner or else. But now it's suddenly a problem, but only because people already know the tech exists for super thin machines. There is a huge difference.between the few people who honestly NEED something very small for traveling purposes (like my sister, who has back problems and cannot carry much weight to university, but needs to take books and her netbook) and the people who just really hate lifting more than about 3 pounds.

 

2 - Laptops are made for gaming. Or they were. The number of them being produced for gaming is rapidly shrinking. If you don't care about gaming on a laptop, that's fine. That's your deal, and nobody will blame you for it. There are people who do like, want, choose and sometimes need to do it. Yes you can get a more powerful desktop for less. Much less, sometimes. That's the fault of Intel and nVidia and other manufacturers who overprice the laptop hardware, more than anyone else. But some people have merit or need for the mobility and want power that is easy to travel with. Also, you are taking something SERIOUSLY for granted. That everybody has an exceedingly powerful desktop and then chooses to buy a laptop just as strong. I don't have a desktop. Lots of users with high end laptops have the high end laptops because a desktop is not something they can adequately fit into their current lifestyle. I would never tell someone without a ridiculous boatload of money to get a fully powered laptop when they have a solid gaming desktop. In fact, I would much more likely suggest something midrange to them, not only to save money, but because they don't need to play everything at super mega ultra settings on the road when they're coming home to do it.

 

But for the love of meowmix... even though it's already too late and enthusiast gaming laptops are all but dead... stop thinking like they're not meant for gaming. It's not true.

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I should rephrase, laptops aren't totally suitable for gaming, just like a super car can't do that well off-road.

 

Also, I said " If you already have a good desktop, there's no point in getting the most powerful laptop out there." . Otherwise, if your laptop were your only machine, then yes, I would get a powerful one.

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I should rephrase, laptops aren't totally suitable for gaming, just like a super car can't do that well off-road.

But you're still doing it. I have an overclockable CPU with two overclockable GPUs. I don't have Optimus. I can use downsampling through the old nVidia method (not DSR). I have a 120Hz internal screen. Hell I have a 3D vision emitter here. I keep the machine cool when under any kind of possible workload. It was, without a doubt, designed to be a gaming machine. My CPU is no more or less upgrade-able than the socked 1150 desktop CPUs. My GPUs are upgrade-able for the most part (I do need a BIOS update to get new ones, but we do have a well-known BIOS modder called Prema who takes care of that for us).

 

I mean... I can't get more "gaming" than that.

 

It just can't hit the absolute power that a desktop can with something like three 970s or three 980s. But most peoples' gaming machines with a single 970 or single 980 etc? Easy to either get very close to that with single GPU or totally tear it to shreds with dual GPU.

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A little bit of experience in logistics makes me wonder if thinner product with thinner packaging would save some cost in shipping.

 

Doesn't mean much for us consumers maybe, but for distributors every little bit adds up. Boxes getting smaller every year.

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A little bit of experience in logistics makes me wonder if thinner product with thinner packaging would save some cost in shipping.

 

Doesn't mean much for us consumers maybe, but for distributors every little bit adds up. Boxes getting smaller every year.

It doesn't make much difference. The packaging still needs to be thick or there's risk of damaging, and beyond a certain size, they bill by dimensional weight instead of actual weight, so the benefits of being "light" are ignored entirely.

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It doesn't make much difference. The packaging still needs to be thick or there's risk of damaging, and beyond a certain size, they bill by dimensional weight instead of actual weight, so the benefits of being "light" are ignored entirely.

Yes, dimensional weight. I bought my first laptop in 2003, as well as many other things way back from the 90's. Boxes got smaller, as if they challenge each other on how thin the padding can go.

 

22" monitor from 10 years ago has much larger box than today's 24" monitor, for example.

 

But I believe the main reason would be trend. Like how phones are getting larger and larger.

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This thick enough?

37-panasonic-toughbook.jpg

 

 

For me yes, actually.  I am currently working in Mongolia and can use all the durability I can get.  I wouldn't mind a thicker heavier laptop if it came with an increase in durability.  I would love something that can take a few bumps and bruises and still work.  I'm not a gamer so super high end power is not what I need.

Me- I feel like a secret agent man, as my wallet now has five different currencies in it

Me- It has come to my attention that it is impossible to buy liver in Mongolia because it is bad, but it is perfectly ok to buy salted sheep heads

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For me yes, actually.  I am currently working in Mongolia and can use all the durability I can get.  I wouldn't mind a thicker heavier laptop if it came with an increase in durability.  I would love something that can take a few bumps and bruises and still work.  I'm not a gamer so super high end power is not what I need.

 

Iv'e been to mongolia, that place is harsh

 

What about a Panasonic toughbook or sometihng

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I did look into the Panasonic tough book but it was out of my price range sadly.  I'd love to see a durable laptop around 1,000 USD that would fit my needs and I would buy it in a heart beat.

Me- I feel like a secret agent man, as my wallet now has five different currencies in it

Me- It has come to my attention that it is impossible to buy liver in Mongolia because it is bad, but it is perfectly ok to buy salted sheep heads

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I did look into the Panasonic tough book but it was out of my price range sadly.  I'd love to see a durable laptop around 1,000 USD that would fit my needs and I would buy it in a heart beat.

You're looking for "good" and you're not willing to pay for "good". This is the problem. For your budget the thinkpads are about all you can get.

I have finally moved to a desktop. Also my guides are outdated as hell.

 

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True in terms of durability I did not have a high enough budget this time around, but the durability of a Lenovo (had I know they existed at the time) would have suited my purposes.

Me- I feel like a secret agent man, as my wallet now has five different currencies in it

Me- It has come to my attention that it is impossible to buy liver in Mongolia because it is bad, but it is perfectly ok to buy salted sheep heads

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I did look into the Panasonic tough book but it was out of my price range sadly.  I'd love to see a durable laptop around 1,000 USD that would fit my needs and I would buy it in a heart beat.

 

$1000 is not much for a decent laptop anyway, it will definitely cost more for a durable one

 

You're looking for "good" and you're not willing to pay for "good". This is the problem. For your budget the thinkpads are about all you can get.

 

This exactly

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I belive the thin laptops are more targeted to people who dont realise that thin laptops run hotter and want a cooler looking laptop

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