[LEAK] Qualcomm's Snapdragon 820, 14nm, and Octacores!

[Suika]

I shoulda caught you at just a Snapdragon 820!

Yes, ladies and gentleman, so immediately after getting the Snapdragon 810, leaks of the 820 rise, except, fancy this, it will be running Qualcomm's custom core design with 8 powerful cores, manufactured on a 14nm node! This isn't the big.LITTLE architecture, this is 8, full sized "TS2 high performance" cores. Who needs that kind of productivity on a mobile device? Qualcomm doesn't care! This isn't to mention the Adreno 530 GPU it will be packing, 64-bit CPU cores, and support for LPDDR4, so lots to expect!

In case you're not interested in 8, full powered cores on a mobile device, there will be a Snapdragon 815, which is basically a refresh of the 810 with Qualcomm's custom cores, that weren't ready when the 810 was needed. Much like the 810 except with Qualcomm's core designs, it will feature four TS2 cores and four TS1 cores. This one packs an Adreno 450 GPU, LPDDR4 RAM support, and will be manufactured on the 20nm node instead.

My thoughts? I don't like the octacore approach at all, I've never had more than two apps operating at once, why would I have five or more very demanding apps? The performance gain from 14nm might be interesting but wouldn't fewer, more powerful cores be better (and more efficient)? We'll see how it plays out, especially considering how small the time gap between the 810 and 820 might be if Qualcomm releases it with fewer delays.

Source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Qualcomm-late-2015-roadmap-leaks-out-14nm-FinFet-Snapdragon-820-surfaces-Taipan-Krait-successor-due_id65010

[dizmo]

Not too surprising. They didn't use their own cores in the 810, so really the 820 will be their first chip.

With Intel pushing hard, I can't wait to see which one actually comes out on top. I know Intel devices will likely be a fair bit cheaper, so they'll really have to bring some performance to the table.

[Glenwing]

I've always wanted to move to my phone for CAD, HD video editing, 3D animation, and running servers. This is almost as silly as 64-bit at this stage.

[AlwaysFSX]

I've always wanted to move to my phone for CAD, HD video editing, 3D animation, and running servers. This is almost as silly as 64-bit at this stage.

Well at least then we can have battery technology improved for phones.

[Glenwing]

Well at least then we can have battery technology improved for phones.

 

The one spec where bigger numbers really are better, and it seems like everyone ignores it...

[ClakeyD]

I've always wanted to move to my phone for CAD, HD video editing, 3D animation, and running servers. This is almost as silly as 64-bit at this stage.

 

Progress is progress. 

[AlwaysFSX]

The one spec where bigger numbers really are better, and it seems like everyone ignores it...

Humans are strange in that regard.

[Glenwing]

Progress is progress. 

 

Sure, but there are many things that can be improved. If you're only going to make progress in some areas, I'd prefer focusing on the ones that actually matter, and then research the more pointless stuff. All the time and effort spent doing this could have been spent doing something that would actually make a difference.

[AlwaysFSX]

 

Sure, but there are many things that can be improved. If you're only going to make progress in some areas, I'd prefer focusing on the ones that actually matter, and then research the more pointless stuff.

Like batteries? :lol:

[Glenwing]

Like batteries? :lol:

 

You know, as soon as someone invents a battery that holds twice as much power per volume, instead of making double capacity batteries they're just going to make the batteries half-size and use the extra space for a 12-core or something stupid.

[ClakeyD]

Sure, but there are many things that can be improved. If you're only going to make progress in some areas, I'd prefer focusing on the ones that actually matter, and then research the more pointless stuff. All the time and effort spent doing this could have been spent doing something that would actually make a difference.

I'm not disagreeing. A flagship with a battery that could last 4 days... I need a moment. 

[AlwaysFSX]

You know, as soon as someone invents a battery that holds twice as much power per volume, instead of making double capacity batteries they're just going to make the batteries half-size and use the extra space for a 12-core or something stupid.

And the sad thing is you're probably correct on that.

 

I still don't know why people needs phones that powerful, what do people do on them that requires so much processing potential??

[Glenwing]

And the sad thing is you're probably correct on that.

 

I still don't know why people needs phones that powerful, what do people do on them that requires so much processing potential??

 

Bigger numbers man, bigger numbers...   <_<

[AlexStriz]

I'm not disagreeing. A flagship with a battery that could last 4 days... I need a moment. 

lol. 4 days. that's cute

 

I had one of these last months on a single charge. Could probably go for much longer too.

 

also, pretty sure this was a flagship at the time

[mr moose]

You know, as soon as someone invents a battery that holds twice as much power per volume, instead of making double capacity batteries they're just going to make the batteries half-size and use the extra space for a 12-core or something stupid.

 

Blame the consumer, Ask any car salesman, a car with a spoiler will sell twice as easy as a car that only uses 6L/100K and can tow the arse end out of a Kenworth. 

[Glenwing]

Blame the consumer, Ask any car salesman, a car with a spoiler will sell twice as easy as a car that only uses 6L/100K and can tow the arse end out of a Kenworth. 

 

I blame everyone. I'm cynical like that.

[qwertywarrior]

And the sad thing is you're probably correct on that.

 

I still don't know why people needs phones that powerful, what do people do on them that requires so much processing potential??

eventually devs will make use of them

maybe google will eventually implement a desktop mode for its phones

[ClakeyD]

eventually devs will make use of them

maybe google will eventually implement a desktop mode for its phones

Yea, but by then my 4790k is going to be the processor that operates my shirt collar, and my brothers xeon will be tracking how many steps hes made in his new nike footrackerstacker 4.0

[mvitkun]

You know, as soon as someone invents a battery that holds twice as much power per volume, instead of making double capacity batteries they're just going to make the batteries half-size and use the extra space for a 12-core or something stupid.

I think we need to do the opposite.

First they need to focus on components that are better suited for low power consumption and improve on the current battery design.

We need to fine tune encoders/decoders as well as create a better (higher speed, lower latency, and lower cost) wireless internet infrastructure.

 

Rather than having stronger mobile devices we need a better infrastructure surrounding cloud computing.

Whether it means offloading to a computer at home (like Gamestream but for all computing done on the phone) or offloading to a server you're renting (GRID).

 

That way you could buy a cheap phone/tablet/laptop once every 3-5 (or more) years (like the Monitor or Camera market) when they make something innovative

 

 Better Screen Better Battery Life  Better Camera Better Speakers

 

You'd just spend a larger amount initially on a strong computer/server if you don't already have one or rent a server out.

[Tonylu1595]

 

Or we can put Intel Desktop CPU's inside phones and be done with it.

[bigboy678]

You know a phone with this chip is going to have a 4k screen as well because we simply need bigger numbers!!

 

youre just going to have to keep this thing plugged into the wall at all times

[mvitkun]

Or we can put Intel Desktop CPU's inside phones and be done with it.

I'm not sure if you're joking so I'm gonna assume you're not.

By the time you can get a processor on the scale of a 4790(K) in your phone there'll be a processor that will be many magnitudes faster on desktop.

If we switch to cloud computing we can stop wasting space in the phone on more powerful specifications and use it on a larger and more efficient battery to eventually give us the same battery life we had on non-smart phones.