Posted November 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Daniel644 said: Ryzen 5 1600's are going for $125 USD at Microcenter, just saying price to performance that shit is on FIRE (in a good way, not like that RTX card from WAN Show). 1700x is at $130, It beats down the 1600 and 1600x, sure it doesn't come with a cooler, but spend $30-35 on a Hyper 212 LED, lap that mofo, and OC. Never rub another man's rhubarb! 4.2225Ghz 1700x on air cpu-z validation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 6 hours ago, mariushm said: IMHO they should have been included at least as a honorable mention. In general, processors are safe purchases so even if they're not in retail stores, they can be safely bought from eBay. Ryzen cpus in particular are even better deals because of backwards compatibility, you may find discounted B350 boards for example at cheap prices. On Intel's side, you have to be careful about what motherboard and what chipset to buy if you want to overclock and all that crap. My B450 Tomahawk cost me a whopping $60 at MicroCenter a month ago. Never rub another man's rhubarb! 4.2225Ghz 1700x on air cpu-z validation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 2 hours ago, QXC said: involve a spreadsheet full of info, why not publish a cleaned up version of it? Version of the video or the spreadsheet. Either way it involves additional work, when the primary clicks have already taken place, so the profit to work ratio is incomputable IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 32 minutes ago, Compassionate Homicide said: 1700x is at $130, It beats down the 1600 and 1600x, sure it doesn't come with a cooler, but spend $30-35 on a Hyper 212 LED, lap that mofo, and OC. NICE!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Zando Bob said: I think it's a bit better but costs more. I haven't looked into the 9600K, but my 8600K at 5.1Ghz stomps 1080p, 1440p, and 4K with my SLI 1080s and, so if a 9600K costs more, it's pointless. Wouldn't notice the benefit even if it is faster because I can already push 200fps at 1440p in games that scale well, and 120-144 in 4K. This was in Battlefront 2015 at ultra settings with no AA, but it should push 1440p no problem with a 1080 Ti or something in games that don't scale well with SLI. 10 hours ago, mariushm said: I would guess because it's hard to buy (limited availability) or has bad price for performance compared to others. The benchmarks I've looked at say the 9600K is ~3-8% better performing than the 8600K for only $10 more (3% more, so you're at least breaking even). It's currently the only available 9th generation chip, though this depends on where you're at I suppose. It makes no sense to include the 8600K but not the 9600K. Would've been the top runner-up for $1000 gaming PC if it had been included, I reckon. Its motherboards aren't more expensive, neither. Oh well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Rickster said: I'm in the market to buy a CPU this black friday, but im stuck between a rock an a hard place... Do i go with the i7-8700k or the i7-9700k. 6 cores 12 threads vs 8 cores and 8 threads. My mind is telling me to get the 8700k but im just not 100% sure, also the 9700k has solder under the HS whereas the 8700k doesn't. 9700k is slightly faster Specs: Motherboard: Asus X470-PLUS TUF gaming (Yes I know it's poor but I wasn't informed) RAM: Corsair VENGEANCE® LPX DDR4 3200Mhz CL16-18-18-36 2x8GB CPU: Ryzen 9 5900X Case: Antec P8 PSU: Corsair RM850x Cooler: Antec K240 with two Noctura Industrial PPC 3000 PWM Drives: Samsung 970 EVO plus 250GB, Micron 1100 2TB, Seagate ST4000DM000/1F2168 GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 ti Black edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 14 hours ago, Streetguru said: The R5 1600 at $120 the entire 9th gen is a joke. Hmmm, I cant do this as my awesome Noctua aftermarket cooler wont work on AMD. And shopping across the world for the right brackets are an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 15 hours ago, Princess Cadence said: Yes because being able to grab a much cheaper mATX b360 and stock cooler/cheap for a CPU configuration that can keep up with a RTX 2080 Ti is awful value proposition. Please this is LTT Forum, one would hope you to know people here can go past the basic spec sheet in a CPU, both have Identical all core turbo boost of 4.3ghz displaying the very same performance comparing stock for stock. stock cooler isnt enough for it to keep the boost clock? MSI GX660 + i7 920XM @ 2.8GHz + GTX 970M + Samsung SSD 830 256GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Neftex said: stock cooler isnt enough for it to keep the boost clock? It is? It just sounds bad/loud. Personal Desktop": CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro. Luna, the temporary Desktop: CPU: AMD R9 7950XT |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, williamcll said: 9700k is slightly faster According to what? I have seen plenty iof instances the i7 8700K outperforms it thanks to HT and smaller ring bus and clock for clock their single thread performance is the same as it's the same 14++ architecture. Being honest both CPU are much the same... With tiny slides in favour to each side here and there Personal Desktop": CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro. Luna, the temporary Desktop: CPU: AMD R9 7950XT |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 Ryzen CPU no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said: It is? It just sounds bad/loud. its not, also if the motherboard limits it to 65w tdp, it will power throttle https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-8700-cpu-review,5638-2.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2HuMxB0qT0 MSI GX660 + i7 920XM @ 2.8GHz + GTX 970M + Samsung SSD 830 256GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, Neftex said: its not, also if the motherboard limits it to 65w tdp, it will power throttle https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-8700-cpu-review,5638-2.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2HuMxB0qT0 I own one, I think I know what it does. Personal Desktop": CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro. Luna, the temporary Desktop: CPU: AMD R9 7950XT |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 Just now, Princess Cadence said: I own one, I think I know what it does. well i dont think you do, since i linked much more reputable sources than you are MSI GX660 + i7 920XM @ 2.8GHz + GTX 970M + Samsung SSD 830 256GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 I am curious as to how the percentages in the video were calculated. I would like to make such a spreadsheet for myself but with prices for the Netherlands where the price gap between CPU's is sometimes quite different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 i can understand not featuring the used market, because the prices vary a bit... however, the budgets here were rounded off, so if you looked at completed listings for older stuff you could round that off to and say they go for around that much. She/Her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Neftex said: well i dont think you do, since i linked much more reputable sources than you are With a slight adjustment to the BLCK it outperforms the stock i7 8700K staying on about 78~79Cº with the stock cooler, so yeah kid chill. Personal Desktop": CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro. Luna, the temporary Desktop: CPU: AMD R9 7950XT |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 19 hours ago, Kalman81 said: Hi everyone, need your help with what should I buy for a workstation PC with a $2000 budget, considering I would use a Threadripper 2920X? how do I know if I will be needing a quadro card? what do u wanna do with the pc gaming system: R7 3700X @ 4.25Ghz cpu / B450 STEEL LEGEND mobo / 4x8gb corsair Vengeance @3333Mhz ram / RX 7900XTX pulse gpu / Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 3 cpu cooler /Coolermaster Qube 500 case / Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 12 1500w power supply laptop: Dell xps 9510, 3.5k OLED, i7 11800h, rtx 3050 ti, 2x16gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, 1TB main drive, 2TB add in ssd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 This is probably your most important video of the year lmg ^^ hope everyone uses the affiliate links when buying. On another note: The question is pretty much Ryzen 1700 or 2700 ^^ Folding stats Vigilo Confido Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 21, 2018 I wish you would have provided component lists for the 9 computers you're listing. I understand why you didn't but I think it would have been helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 22, 2018 23 hours ago, Daniel644 said: NICE!!!!!!! Especially given the fact that I'm running at over 4Ghz, all cores, on air. By far one of the best value processors ATM. Never rub another man's rhubarb! 4.2225Ghz 1700x on air cpu-z validation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Compassionate Homicide said: Especially given the fact that I'm running at over 4Ghz, all cores, on air. By far one of the best value processors ATM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Daniel644 said: I had a feeling they'd sell out. My local store is out now too here in Michigan. Never rub another man's rhubarb! 4.2225Ghz 1700x on air cpu-z validation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Compassionate Homicide said: I had a feeling they'd sell out. My local store is out now too here in Michigan. it went so fast, my store had 10+ when I went to bed last night, had 9 when I left for work, had 2 when I got to work less then an hour later and sold out shortly after that, then an hour or 2 after that Newegg sold out, currently the next cheapest option is Amazon at $176 and change, which is not far from what Microcenter had been selling them for prior to the sale. I was hoping to talk the boss into buying one for the office PC so we can dump the FX6300 but they where all gone before he got back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 22, 2018 @GabenJr I would appreciate a list of sources used when you guys do this kind of content. I'm not implying you'd cite Toms', but what if you did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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