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GIGABYTE GTX 1080 G1 Gaming vs MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X

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4 hours ago, The Strange said:

i'm from egypt, summer here is literally hell, in average its 38c day time, sometimes its higher, lowest is 34-35c

I won't deny Egypt is hotter than Aus. during summer. But my point still stands 75c is fine for a gpu. Technically 80c is fine. I think you're supposed to start getting worried when it hits 90c. And since you wont be overclocking you will be fine.

 

I'd go for the msi one over the g1. I'm positive it's a better performing card and the utility software is way better. I use msi afterburner with my g1 instead of the gigabyte one. Easy to monitor temps and lower voltages if you start feeling worried.

Hi guys, I was waiting for RTX GPUs to show up in my country, but unfortunately they are overpriced that i can't afford, specifically was waiting for RTX 2070, but now decided to back to my old options GTX 1070 ti or GTX 1080, especially after showing the disappointed performance results when turning on ray tracing at BattleField V that was clearly just a marketing.

 

Well, at first i was going to get GTX 1070 ti, but now prices are getting lower for GTX 1080 that maybe i can afford, price drop was mostly to GTX 1080 GIGABYTE G1 Gaming, but just a little bit for MSI one.

 

Actually to be more honest, the MSI is about 65-70$ more than the GIGABYTE one, i see this too overpriced to me, so i decided to go with GIGABYTE one, but actually i still need to ask: is it good in terms of performance, cooling and noise ?? 

 

About performance, i think they are both the same, but cooling and noise i don't know, but i'm caring mostly about cooling because i'm living in hot country especially at summer times that usually its 4-5 months per year and in the last few years it was longer sometimes, however, i still need to know about noise too.

 

I will be more clear, i need to pair that GPU with core i5 8400, so i need to ask another question: will be any kind of bottleneck here?

 

Another question too: my current monitor is 1080p 60hz, i know the GTX 1080 is better with 1440p gaming, but that's fine to me, as my intention is to get a GPU that lasts much longer at 1080p, as i don't do so much upgrades, its 1-time gaming build, and i just hope to last for 5 years in average before the next upgrade.

 

All answers will be appreciated.

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7 minutes ago, The Strange said:

is it good in terms of performance, cooling and noise ?? 

The cooler is good, I don't go over 75c or notice when the fans ramp up.

 

Regarding the bottleneck, no you'll be fine.

 

For your monitor though, still get a better one. Go with 1080p 144hz at least, theres a significant difference and the 1080 will easily run it  

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3 minutes ago, Slottr said:

The cooler is good, I don't go over 75c or notice when the fans ramp up.

 

Regarding the bottleneck, no you'll be fine.

 

For your monitor though, still get a better one. Go with 1080p 144hz at least, theres a significant difference and the 1080 will easily run it  

I wanted to get a higher resolution monitor or at least 144hz, but actually monitors prices in my country here are pretty expensive, that's why i have got the 60hz, but as i can play with no issues like stutters, tearing or whatever these stuff then i'm fine.

 

But let me ask you, i feel that 75c is high :D What about MSI one temperature ??

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16 minutes ago, The Strange said:

Actually to be more honest, the MSI is about 65-70$ more than the GIGABYTE one, i see this too overpriced to me, so i decided to go with GIGABYTE one, but actually i still need to ask: is it good in terms of performance, cooling and noise ?? 

 

MSI one has slightly better cooler and noticeably better (electrically anyway) PCB so it's worth the money, but if you arent that into overclocking potential, the Gigabyte will do.

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1 minute ago, The Strange said:

But let me ask you, i feel that 75c is high :D

Undervolt the GPU, you'll get lower temps than that.

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

MSI one has slightly better cooler and noticeably better (electrically anyway) PCB so it's worth the money, but if you arent that into overclocking potential, the Gigabyte will do.

No overclocking at all, just a normal usage.

 

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Undervolt the GPU, you'll get lower temps than that.

Well, my knowledge here is too poor, how to undervolt the GPU?? what is its effects ??

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4 minutes ago, The Strange said:

I wanted to get a higher resolution monitor or at least 144hz, but actually monitors prices in my country here are pretty expensive, that's why i have got the 60hz, but as i can play with no issues like stutters, tearing or whatever these stuff then i'm fine.

 

But let me ask you, i feel that 75c is high :D What about MSI one temperature ??

dude 75c is a-ok, I'd be so happy with 75c in the summer. My 1080 g1 hits 81-2c during the hotter days of summer. Now that is worrisome.

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14 minutes ago, The Strange said:

I wanted to get a higher resolution monitor or at least 144hz, but actually monitors prices in my country here are pretty expensive, that's why i have got the 60hz, but as i can play with no issues like stutters, tearing or whatever these stuff then i'm fine.

 

But let me ask you, i feel that 75c is high :D What about MSI one temperature ??

75 isnt high, 90+ is high. You might face that considering I'm in Canada, but generally you'll be fine. 80-85 is warm but not worrisome. As @Jurrunio said, the MSI card has a better cooler, but shouldnt worry about it if you're not overclocking.

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9 minutes ago, Srishunbagasundaran said:

dude 75c is a-ok, I'd be so happy with 75c in the summer. My 1080 g1 hits 81-2c during the hotter days of summer. Now that is worrisome.

Well, according to your account information guys showed up here, Canada, Australia (as i see), it seems you're not living in hot country, like mine, i'm from egypt, summer here is literally hell, in average its 38c day time, sometimes its higher, lowest is 34-35c :(:( sorry for saying this, but this is the truth :/ 

 

Well, i don't know if MSI offers a better cooling, but i can't afford it, so should i back to MSI GTX 1070 ti Gaming, if it will be better with cooling?? 

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1 minute ago, The Strange said:

Australia (as i see), it seems you're not living in hot country

Australia's hot as balls dude

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1 minute ago, Slottr said:

Australia's hot as balls dude

 

3 minutes ago, The Strange said:

i'm from egypt, summer here is literally hell, in average its 38c day time, sometimes its higher, lowest is 34-35c

I meant its not higher than my country. :D:D 

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So guys again, my old choice was MSI GTX 1070 ti Gaming, i can't afford the Gaming X 1080 as its away from my budget.

 

So should i stay with GIGABYTE 1080 G1, or back to MSI 1070 ti Gaming for better cooling??

 

Performance difference isn't that much, like 10-15 fps as an average, but also price difference was not that much here, what do you think??

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I've had a G1 1070 and now I have a G1 1080. 1070 never reached higher than 72c, and 1080 is never reaching higher than 73-74c. Both cards at 55 % fan speed. The G1 branding is not something weaker than MSI Gaming X models, or even ASUS Strix. You're gonna be more happy with the GDDR5X on the 1080, than a Gaming X 1070Ti.

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17 minutes ago, The Strange said:

No overclocking at all, just a normal usage.

 

Well, my knowledge here is too poor, how to undervolt the GPU?? what is its effects ??

undervolting Pascal cards require using the voltage/frequency curve of MSI Afterburner (I heard that EVGA PrecisionX can also do that, but I have no experience in that software). You just pull a lot of dots around to do it.

 

It drops power draw and heat output (power = voltage * current) with no effect in performance. Factory settings always overshoot voltage because they don't want to spend time adjusting each individual card.

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i had a gigabyte GTX 1080 windforce oc 1900mhz four about 6 months...good card quiet worked well.

 

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4 hours ago, The Strange said:

i'm from egypt, summer here is literally hell, in average its 38c day time, sometimes its higher, lowest is 34-35c

I won't deny Egypt is hotter than Aus. during summer. But my point still stands 75c is fine for a gpu. Technically 80c is fine. I think you're supposed to start getting worried when it hits 90c. And since you wont be overclocking you will be fine.

 

I'd go for the msi one over the g1. I'm positive it's a better performing card and the utility software is way better. I use msi afterburner with my g1 instead of the gigabyte one. Easy to monitor temps and lower voltages if you start feeling worried.

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Never heard of such poor temps for a 1080. 

 

Can you get a strix or super clock instead? The cooler it can run, the better it can boost. 

 

But being on 1080p now, the cpu won’t keep up. Won’t keep up at 1440 either, unless it’s the least cpu intensive game ever. 

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19 hours ago, Srishunbagasundaran said:

I'd go for the msi one over the g1. I'm positive it's a better performing card and the utility software is way better.

I can't afford it, its exactly like 66-70$ more than the G1, i checked some reviews saying average temperature between MSI and G1, like this video showed up:

 

It's 70c for MSI, 72c for G1, not sure about, but if this is right, then we have a problem with the GTX 1080 itself in terms of high temperatures, both are still 70's, which is bad i think from my perspective point :/ because i'm living in a very hot country.

 

As @Jurrunio said, MSI is slightly better, my english is not that good, but i think slightly should means "not too much" or a "little bit", 2 degrees yeah that's slightly better, but still makes me worry.

 

I think i found a solution, not sure if its right, but i will game on 1080p 60hz monitor, so i don't need extra load, turning on v-sync should cap my fps to the monitor refresh rate, meaning that the card will be a little idle, that should reduce temperature too + undervolt the card too as @Jurrunio said.

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Just go for the cheapest one. Not like it would really matter. 

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If 70C for us is too high because it will shoot higher in your environment, just undervolt the card. I dropped my Asus 1070 Dual's temperature from 78C to 70C with undervolt, and 65C after reapplying thermal paste while fan speeds are all locked to 60%.

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Well guys, i really appreciate all your answers, but unfortunately i need to re-think again about choosing the best GPU for mine, its not only related to temperatures, but also for the quality build, i have checked some reviews on amazon about G1 Gaming 1080, it was terrible and full of defects between fan failure, noise, black screen, GPU failure itself and much more, many people share this problem too, the MSI Gaming X seems to have less problems that not related to quality build, however, i can't afford it, so i think i'm going with MSI GTX 1070 ti Gaming 8GB.

 

If you can check all reviews and share your perspective then i would be really thankful. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B01GJEE9BG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=avp_only_reviews&showViewpoints=0&tag=tomshardware_forum_vgl-20&pageNumber=1

 

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1080-GAMING-8G/product-reviews/B01GLYD7MG/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_paging_btm_4?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews&filterByStar=critical&pageNumber=4

 

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1070-TI-8G/product-reviews/B076Q6GYKY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewpnt_rgt?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews&filterByStar=critical&pageNumber=1

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17 hours ago, The Strange said:

I can't afford it, its exactly like 66-70$ more than the G1, i checked some reviews saying average temperature between MSI and G1, like this video showed up:

 

It's 70c for MSI, 72c for G1, not sure about, but if this is right, then we have a problem with the GTX 1080 itself in terms of high temperatures, both are still 70's, which is bad i think from my perspective point :/ because i'm living in a very hot country.

 

As @Jurrunio said, MSI is slightly better, my english is not that good, but i think slightly should means "not too much" or a "little bit", 2 degrees yeah that's slightly better, but still makes me worry.

 

I think i found a solution, not sure if its right, but i will game on 1080p 60hz monitor, so i don't need extra load, turning on v-sync should cap my fps to the monitor refresh rate, meaning that the card will be a little idle, that should reduce temperature too + undervolt the card too as @Jurrunio said.

Chances are as the g1 has 3 fans it would actually be cooler than the Msi card if both had a custom curve 

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