bf4 mantle boost

[JigglyPufflez]

Sure the quad X fire 290x guys are so poor. And the guy that bougth 104 290x's is so poor.

108 280X's*** Sorry couldn't help myself :c

[Fetzie]

Yet no evidence of how good Mantle is. By evidence, I mean tests from unbiased reviewers/testers/users. Until there are tests, whose signed on means jack honestly. What happens, for instance, if it falls on its tail? In the same breath, if it gives these mythical huge boosts, it'll be great.

 

Oxide said they would release their demo in January, and AFAIK there is a BF4 Mantle demo at CES.

[GamerDude]

Mantle is for poor ppl

Nough said

Am I mistaken, or have all your posts with regards to GPU's been quite negative against AMD?

[afa7336]

Oxide said they would release their demo in January, and AFAIK there is a BF4 Mantle demo at CES.

 

Did they, that'll be awesome then, I'd love to try it then. Might have to get a monitor into the HTPC (which has the AMD card). And the demo at CES is kinda meh to be honest. Its a specific system, controlled entirely by AMD. It doesn't really give us a clean look at what Mantle can do.

[Stonep11]

They actually showed it

You can't quite see what it looms like exactly over a stream. It could be stuttering or tearing like crazy. I hope it works flawlessly though!

[Fetzie]

You can't quite see what it looms like exactly over a stream. It could be stuttering or tearing like crazy. I hope it works flawlessly though!

 

The stream was stuttering like crazy but that was happening before and after the demo too, so I'm putting that down to the stream and not the demo. The Fraps FPS counter in the corner never went below 105, not even when he was firing or explosions occurred. That's all you could really tell from the stream. The biggest effect I'm expecting is that the minimum frame-rate (i.e. what matters) will be much closer to the maximum frame-rate that is obtainable.

[7850OC]

i will love see Mantle runing on the new Mac Pro 2013 (the trash can) and they Dual FirePRO  :lol:

[Fetzie]

i will love see Mantle runing on the new Mac Pro 2013 (the trash can) and they Dual FirePRO  :lol:

 

I'd be happy to see it running on anything

 

In particular, my 7950

[silencerbob]

So.. In that German article when translated it says the configuration was unknown.

How about we get some details..........

[Katness Everdeen]

The Nvidia fanboys are going nuts, they made an expensive deal with the devil and the devil screwed them.
Now the AMD guys have FreeSync for you guessed it FREE and their 2 year old 7970s are faster than 1000 dollar Titans on Mantle.

[bradscoolio]

Cant believe a word any company says on CES. They make promises and dont deliver. I would take this with the same weight that  you would if i were to say "Intel is making a gpu to destroy the titan: It means nothing,

What performance boost is nvidia getting from their new api technology?

[Warcony]

It is likely that the percent increase AMD quotes (45%) is on the low end i.e. their APUs.  For instance going from 20 to 29 fps gives you a 45% increase.  In the real world, 29 fps is still terrible and isn't any better than 20.  I am excited to see how mantle affects those who have mid to high end hardware, though my feeling is it will only be a marginal boost.

[PortentousLad]

Because BF4 was the premiere game for it,which would have been huge for AMD,I mean a triple A title with their technology,but EA forced DICE to release BF4 at the same time as COD:GHOSTS,leaving tons of bugs in BF4.

Now DICE is trying to fix their game before adding a feature that a small niche of people will actually use.

 

That said,I think up to 45% requires the small print to read

Provided you are using an APU,

because with Mantle allowing more draw calls and HSA which allows the onboard gpu and cpu to work together on the same tasks I could easily see the apu becoming much more efficient in gaming and gaining up to 45% extra performance.

However with something like an i7 4770K (or FX 8350) and an R9 290X I can only realistically see mantle giving a peak performance boost of up to 20%,with most likely the typical performance increase ranging between 5-15%.

Either way though if it's as much easier to program around than DX11 as they claim and has more overhead as an API in general allowing the bottleneck to fallback on the graphics card and processor once again, then we can finally start seeing huge leaps of innovation in the gaming industry.

 

Again just my thoughts,don't crucify me for them.

Yeah Blame EA for the Mantle delay in BF4 DICE has other priorities right now than to port the game. Just always blame EA for bad things happening there behind most of them anyways. Also I guess waiting for Nvidia's next step might be in AMD's interest I guess.

 

 

Bit of-topic btw, anyone know how I can use my dicc add-on in the forum? It doesn't seem to recognise the words.

[Flamewalker]

Found a youtube link on dsogaming with it in action, lol at the cpu spike though midgame , still didn't find anything about what specs it was running though ;/

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: found a 1080p version

http://youtu.be/Ms16uGxQzSY?t=31m4s

[joelthezombie15]

What performance boost is nvidia getting from their new api technology?

What performance boost is amd getting from there api technology? 

 

No one knows. 

[MbV93]

Yeah, and a ton loads of developers will use mantel since it's AMD only... yeaaaah... 

 

Haha! They have the Frostbite 3 engine, Every EA game will support Mantle so that's a lot already, also Oxide's game engine, Crytek has come out and said they're evaluating it, IW said they might use it... It has widespread adoption already.

[tryagain1990]

Edit: found a 1080p version

http://youtu.be/Ms16uGxQzSY?t=31m4s

 

 

I can just about make out some of the text from the video.

 

Rendering backend: Mantle

GPUs: 2

Resolution: 1920x1080 @ 59.94Hz

Vsync: off

 

Frame rates (top right) appear to be in the 40-50fps range for the most part, occassionally dipping to 15-25.

 

Still, I have no idea what hardware this is.

[tryagain1990]

Does anyone know what the green number in the top right of the video is supposed to be? Surely that can't be the frame rate. 

[Fetzie]

Haha! They have the Frostbite 3 engine, Every EA game will support Mantle so that's a lot already, also Oxide's game engine, Crytek has come out and said they're evaluating it, IW said they might use it... It has widespread adoption already.

 

They have said on multiple occasions that they made Mantle because lots of developers have been requesting it for years.

[jksluv]

The Nvidia fanboys are going nuts, they made an expensive deal with the devil and the devil screwed them.

Now the AMD guys have FreeSync for you guessed it FREE and their 2 year old 7970s are faster than 1000 dollar Titans on Mantle.

Dont be ridiculously exaggerated. Titan is not really priced for gaming. It has its value for workstations.

Anyway I would love to see mantle goes well. Even im rocking on gtx680 atm, more competition means more boosts on faster/new products. But yeah, mantle implement makes AMD cards very appealing but i cant leave out my Nvidia Shield...

[werto165]

You can tell it is not ready yet with minimums of 7fps. 

[bradscoolio]

What performance boost is amd getting from there api technology? 

 

No one knows. 

 

Negative Nancy. There's no reason to be so pissed off about it's existence just because you can't run it. Just have hope, because that's all you need  

[tobben]

Mantle is for poor ppl

Nough said

i love how everyone is hating on you being all sarcastic and acting insulted as if you are insulting amd or amd users, what you say is true, the guy with crossfire 290 or 280x won't benefit from mantle... it's the mid/lower end that will benefit from it, if you have a 60hz monitor you wont benefit from more than steady 60 fps .. it doesn't matter if you have 80 fps or 140(enjoy that lovely tearing as your monitor splits into 6 seperate images). the guy who sits below 60fps will benefit, sure there might be some benefit to the guy running 1440p or 120hz monitors, but it is the mid/low end that will benefit the most.

[joelthezombie15]

Negative Nancy. There's no reason to be so pissed off about it's existence just because you can't run it. Just have hope, because that's all you need

who said i was angry or negative? didnt you read the comment i made saying i want it to work? And im not pissed off about it, im pissed off because you dont read and think im trying to bash it when im just saying to wait to see first hand how it runs. 

[silencerbob]

1 thing for sure its not possible to have 45% increase in fps across the board... GPU power to fps simply doesn't work that way.. Not being negative.. This is how technology works in practice. The 45% boost in performance may only be at low settings.. Its sure as hell not at 4k resolutions... Who knows?