Is this a good pre-built?

[Prof. Lucifer]

So I was thinking of building my own pc when I came across this pre-built and now I need someone to tell me if I should build a pc or get this one, this pc is in rmb so you might have to convert it over to your currency to see if it's good. Thanks

https://item.jd.com/100000649937.html#crumb-wrap

 

[Jurrunio]

Not the best graphics card (prefer custom card's cooling) and motherboard (can't see what it's made off, but doesnt seem very good for overclocking).

[TheKDub]

Building your own will likely be cheaper, and you'll be able to make sure all the parts in it are high quality, not cheap garbage.

 

What do you plan on using it for? You probably don't need an i9 9900K. You could get an i7 8700K, i7 9700K, or go with something like a Ryzen 7 2700X and save some money.

 

The CPU cooler likely will not be enough for a 9900K. You'd want at least a 240mm liquid cooler for it, not what looks to be a 120mm liquid cooler.

 

I'm not sure what power supply it's using, so it could have a poor quality one, and as Jurrunio, the GPU could be better.

[Prof. Lucifer]

I'll be playing games like fortnite and I will be using UE4 and Unity 3D. The only reason I am considering this pre-built is because where i am on that website for the same price you can only get a ryzen 2700x and a vega 64. I will not be overclocking much and maybe not at all, if you think building is much better can you plz help me with a build then cuz i can only buy from the webstite the pre-built is on.

[dizmo]

I don't believe "good" and "prebuilt" can be used in the same sentence. Sorry.

[bebejapes]

build your own you'll appreciate your pc more.

#pcmasterrace

[Tarun10]

1 hour ago, Prof. Lucifer said:

So I was thinking of building my own pc when I came across this pre-built and now I need someone to tell me if I should build a pc or get this one, this pc is in rmb so you might have to convert it over to your currency to see if it's good. Thanks

https://item.jd.com/100000649937.html#crumb-wrap

 

Its not a bad price but for at least 500$ cheaper you can get a much better system. I don't think that case has good airflow and the Founder's Edition RTX 2080 is no good.

If you live in China you should be able to find some good deals on hardware. If you are not going to do much gaming other than Fortnite, I think an 8700K is a much better choice. You shouldn't pick the 9900K unless you are rich or you need the extra cores for rendering or other intensive workloads. Getting a custom RTX 2080 will be a better option, consider EVGA SC series or Asus Strix, but make sure you get custom PCBs not reference ones.

 

All in all, building you own will be a great value here and also a unique experience. 

[bebejapes]

4 minutes ago, Tarun10 said:

Its not a bad price but for at least 500$ cheaper you can get a much better system. I don't think that case has good airflow and the Founder's Edition RTX 2080 is no good.

If you live in China you should be able to find some good deals on hardware. If you are not going to do much gaming other than Fortnite, I think an 8700K is a much better choice. You shouldn't pick the 9900K unless you are rich or you need the extra cores for rendering or other intensive workloads. Getting a custom RTX 2080 will be a better option, consider EVGA SC series or Asus Strix, but make sure you get custom PCBs not reference ones.

 

All in all, building you own will be a great value here and also a unique experience. 

he shouldnt go for the founders. a better 1080ti will give him a better chance on other parts. but if he wants rtx 2070 would be a mroe reasonable price.

[Prof. Lucifer]

If I build a pc I probably won't get a intel core and probably will get a ryzen because I'm gonna use UE4 and Unity and as for the graphics card, well I it depends on my other parts but based on my budget I probably can only go for a vega 64.

[Prof. Lucifer]

My budget is 20,000 rmb and I have to find my parts on https://www.jd.com/

but the 20,000 has to include the monitor and the keyboard, I already have a mouse.

[bebejapes]

Just now, Prof. Lucifer said:

If I build a pc I probably won't get a intel core and probably will get a ryzen because I'm gonna use UE4 and Unity and as for the graphics card, well I it depends on my other parts but based on my budget I probably can only go for a vega 64.

a vega 64 is a great choice right now but its lower teir 56 when over clocked performs just as well. but considering the fact that you might do other things a vega 64 is a better choice. ryzen 1st gen are great right now to buy.

[Prof. Lucifer]

Is there a reason why most people get 1st gen ryzen instead of 2nd gen because most online webs tel me to get a 1st gen instead of a 2nd gen.

[bebejapes]

1 minute ago, Prof. Lucifer said:

Is there a reason why most people get 1st gen ryzen instead of 2nd gen because most online webs tel me to get a 1st gen instead of a 2nd gen.

price to performance.

plus it give you more options on more options for other parts when you save and buy a higher gen 1 teir

[Tarun10]

3 minutes ago, Prof. Lucifer said:

My budget is 20,000 rmb and I have to find my parts on https://www.jd.com/

but the 20,000 has to include the monitor and the keyboard, I already have a mouse.

Do you prefer mechanical??? I think looking at the options on that website you don't have many options so I am going to keep aside 500RMB for a kb. Monitor, any resolution or refresh rates?? 1440p would be a good choice if you get a good GPU.

2 minutes ago, Prof. Lucifer said:

Is there a reason why most people get 1st gen ryzen instead of 2nd gen because most online webs tel me to get a 1st gen instead of a 2nd gen.

2bd gen Ryzen is not really much different just a few added features and slightly higher clocks which can be achieved on 1st gen at a cheaper price.

[Prof. Lucifer]

I don't have a preference for keyboard because I never used a desktop keyboard before, just laptop ones and for a monitor I'm looking at the samsung 2k 144hz qled gaming monitor

[Prof. Lucifer]

The website I gave actually have many different keyboards but you have to do a bit of digging around and searching for exact ones or else there's not much stuff. I don't know if 500 rmb is enough for a keyboard because I want something that will match my mouse and my current mouse is a logitech g502.

[bebejapes]

Just now, Prof. Lucifer said:

I don't have a preference for keyboard because I never used a desktop keyboard before, just laptop ones and for a monitor I'm looking at the samsung 2k 144hz qled gaming monitor

well the monitor is okay. keyboard go with mechanical only because the feels is great and its better than scissor keys which are more common on laptops.

you can also get a combo keyboard mouse from razer but thats not advised.

 

[Tarun10]

1 minute ago, Prof. Lucifer said:

I don't have a preference for keyboard because I never used a desktop keyboard before, just laptop ones and for a monitor I'm looking at the samsung 2k 144hz qled gaming monitor

A link to it would be good cause I understand nothing on that website.

[Prof. Lucifer]

the link is https://item.jd.com/27583713935.html

[Tarun10]

Here is you PC for 20000 RMB. And China has the worst prices man even India seems a bit better in comparison at least Newegg pricing is decent and I can't find many options for Cases, hard drives and keyboards. Don't pay more than the price I have mentioned for anything, I have rounded them up in some cases.

 

4500 - Ryzen 7 2700 for 2200 and an Asus ROG Strix X470-F(Best motherboard after the Crosshairs and Maximus Heroes) for 2300 so totally 4500. You might get 2-5% FPS(10FPS at max) less in 1080p compared to an 8700K but if you game in 4K no visible difference. The 2700 should be overclocked properly and it can match the 2700X which is 300 more.

4500 - Since your budget is pretty high I would recommend the Asus ROG Strix Gaming Vega 64 which is the best custom card period.

1300 - 2x8GB DDR4 3200/3000 MHz RAM, pick any good brand like Corsair, HyperX, GSkill

1400 - 360mm Liquid AiO, Best option was Corsair H150i PRO RGB 360mm (other options are Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB and NZXT Kraken x72 but both were 100 more, you could also get 280mm or 240mm radiators for 900-1000 but lesser cooling performance)

1000 - Samsung 970 Evo 500GB PCIe Nvme SSD(Best value for money option)

1100 - 850W Modular PSU (get from a reputable brand, no Chinese knock-offs)

1500 - ATX Case, Good options were Cooler Master H500 series, just make sure you don't get the H500P non mesh version

Total - 15300, 700 set aside for HDD and other stuff like screwdrivers, Good Thermal Paste, extra fans, etc.

 

You could get semi modular Corsair PSU and save 300. If you don't want RGB RAM you could save 200. Its you decision to make here, pick one that suits your needs. The cooler is a little overkill but you could use it even if you upgrade later to Zen 2 or even Threadripper for that matter. For the motherboard and cooler please ask for opinions in respective forums, I am pretty sure my options are good quality and value but just double check.

 

A Vega 64 is pretty close to a 1080 in most games and better in other rendering tasks. I think a 4K 60Hz or 2k 120Hz panel would be good choices, just get a FreeSync one. I can see a lot of good options here just make sure the specific model you pick has no problems with backlight or panel issues.

https://item.jd.com/3173659.html#none

This LG 34" 1440p 144Hz Ultrawide with Freesync

 

Any mechanical keyboard would be better than a laptop keyboard, just get from a decent brand like Cooler Master, Logitech, Razer, etc.

[bebejapes]

3 minutes ago, Tarun10 said:

Here is you PC for 20000 RMB. And China has the worst prices man even India seems a bit better in comparison at least Newegg pricing is decent and I can't find many options for Cases, hard drives and keyboards. Don't pay more than the price I have mentioned for anything, I have r0unded them up in some cases.

4400 - i7 8700K and Asus Prime Z370-A(Combo deal, best value)

1300 - 2x8GB DDR4 3200/3000 MHz RAM, pick any good brand like Corsair, HyperX, GSkill

1400 - 360mm Liquid AiO, Best option was Corsair H150i PRO RGB 360mm (other options are Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB and NZXT Kraken x72 but both were 100 more, you could also get 280mm or 240mm radiators for 900-1000 but lesser cooling performance)

600 - Samsung 970 Evo 250GB PCIe Nvme SSD(Best value for money option)

1100 - 850W Modular PSU (get from a reputable brand, no Chinese knock-offs)

1500 - ATX Case, Good options were Cooler Master H500 series, just make sure you don't get the H500P non mesh version

Total - 10300, 700 set aside for HDD and other stuff like screwdrivers, Thermal Paste, etc.

 

You could get semi modular Corsair PSU and save 300. You could also increase your SSD capacity to 500GB for 400 more. If you don't want RGB RAM you could save 200. Its you decision to make here, pick one that suits your needs and saving a buck or two on looks could get you more performance in the GPU department.

 

For the motherboard and cooler please ask for opinions in respective forums, I am pretty sure my options are good quality but just double check. I also found many listings for the same products and some were cheaper.

 

Once you finalize these choices, split the rest into a monitor, GPU and keyboard. Keyboard is least priority, even 300 RMB ones are decent.

GPU - Always get a good custom one no Chinese brand please, I would recommend most Asus and EVGA cards. Some Gigabyte Cards are decent.

1070TI - 3600 to 4000

1080 - 5000 to 5500

1080TI - 6000 to 7000

RTX 2070 - 4000 to 5000

RTX 2080 - 6200 to 7000

 

Based on these prices a 1070TI is the best value for money but you could afford more and your best bet would be a good RTX 2070 card because they are cheaper than GTX 1080 and offer nearly similar performance if not more and have 4000 for Keyboard and Monitor. You could also get a good 2080 for nearly the same price as a 1080Ti, both have their advantages. but this would leave you with only 3000 for Monitor and Keyboard.

 

For the monitor just pick a good brand at the resolution and refresh rate you need, 120Hz would be better value than 144Hz. Any mechanical keyboard would be better than a laptop keyboard, just get from a decent brand once again.

@Tarun10 change the gpu and cpu to amd he is going to run unity.

[Tarun10]

45 minutes ago, bebejapes said:

@Tarun10 change the gpu and cpu to amd he is going to run unity.

Unity favors AMD??? Ok then but is there a lot of performance difference???

[Prof. Lucifer]

I don't have Ethernet so do i need a wifi motherboard or something?

[Prof. Lucifer]

also i never overclocked before, so i don't know if I can overclock.

[bebejapes]

Just now, Prof. Lucifer said:

also i never overclocked before, so i don't know if I can overclock.

you dont need to do so much over clocking. but you should get at least the B350 type motherboard if your going non thread ripper.

i cant read chinese so i cant navigate the site.