Asus PB287Q a 28" 4K panel for $799!

[lhikary]

WHAT SOURCE DOES IT SAY IT HAVE A TN PANEL!!!! I

[TheProfosist]

$10 says this supports it.

Id say unlikely since that spec was design for power savings not what AMD is using it for, so unless AMD let companies like ASUS in on this quite a while ago it probably wasnt implemented.

WHAT SOURCE DOES IT SAY IT HAVE A TN PANEL!!!! I

Probably none but its 28in and the Dell 28in was confirmed to be TN and since ASUS doesnt make their own panels and they would likely just choose from what available there is a very high chance it TN.

[beefalo]

WHAT SOURCE DOES IT SAY IT HAVE A TN PANEL!!!! I

I bet it's a VA panel.  So far that is what cheap 4k panels have been using so I wouldn't be surprised if they have just scaled those down to 28" for these models.

[MzCatieB]

#inb4 eye melt or wallet death

[RexinOridle]

So does it support free sync? Also not buying if TN I swear to God.

[ijKs Snow]

Who's making the panels for ASUS? Is it Sharp IGZO panels again? I hope LG and Sammy gets off the OLED for a while and start pumping out good 4K IPS panels and saturate the market with it... I mean, whatever happened to the 31.5 inch 4K Samsung monitor that was on display at the IFA last year? If we get the big 3 pumping 4K panels, I wouldn't be surprised if 28inch 4K monitors hit $500 by Q3 2014.

[Raboo]

too bad its not ips

[winny3141]

I would actually be okay with this panel being TN so long that it is not a tiled panel implementation like the PQ321Q 4k 3500$ monitor that Asus is selling. That has two 1920x2160 panels stitched together using two professional technologies that help keep the graphics card displaying frames evenly between the two frames. fliplock is the first technology, and it "flips" the frame buffer of the graphics card to output frames to the two panels at the same time, making them one whole panel. Scanlock, the second technology, has the graphics card scan the monitor equally, so it gets the information about each panel equally, so it can, as evenly as possible, process the frames to display. Even with these great technologies, there are some issues, like for example weird flashing in games, the inability to change to lower resolutions, and the distorted displaying of the windows logo when booting up windows (tested on Windows 7, 8, 8.1). Also, with fliplock, one could speculate that the process leads to some performance issues (the GPU processing one frame is probably easier than two). So if it is one panel and 800$, I don't care if its TN, because it means 4k to the masses is coming. And let me tell you, this is no Seiki 4k crap tv that previosly released, this probably has better panel quality than the Asus VG248QE, which according to reviews was a pretty good panel. However, that is to not say that I don't like IPS as I am considering investing in the PA279Q over the PG278Q with my new computer purchase I am making in a few weeks. This is because the difference between IPS and TN is drastic. TN can only display 255,144 different colors while IPS can display 16,777,216 different colors (equivalent to the signal that modern graphics cards output to monitors). TN panels, as a result, show color bands, or parts of an image that look like lines that degrade from image quality. There are solutions to this problem like dithering, where random noise is inserted into these areas where the display cannot render certain colors and fuzz out, for lack of a better term, these areas. Then there is Linus' review where he said that the XL2420TE, that is a 6-bit TN Panel, is the best gaming LCD he has ever seen and has almost NO color bands displayed. But, even with a perfect dithering algorithm, there will always be noticeable discrepancies and obvious color bands, which is why 8-bit is better than 6-bit. The PB278Q WILL bring down prices of 4k panels so that 4k is more accessible to the masses and encourages Nvidia and AMD to produce graphics cards to perform better, so we will have sharper, more realistic gaming experiences, so I am excited for what this panel has to offer.

 

- winny3141

[Kamina]

For a monitor that could be flipped around like a pizza, you'd think it'd be an IPS panel for photoshoppers or something.

[Nicktrance]

WHAT SOURCE DOES IT SAY IT HAVE A TN PANEL!!!! I

 

Probably none but its 28in and the Dell 28in was confirmed to be TN and since ASUS doesnt make their own panels and they would likely just choose from what available there is a very high chance it TN.

 

This and like I said in the OP:

 

Considering how their current 31.5" 4K monitor is selling for over $3000 I wonder what sort of compromises they had to make and how it will compare to competing products from Dell and Lenovo. That 1ms response time does sound nice but that generally means it uses a TN panel, but I really hope I'm wrong.

 

So no there is no source, but I doubt the first 1ms IPS panel from a big brand is going to be a "budget friendly" 4K monitor.

[FluffyNuggets]

The worlds most expensive TN panel. No thanks!

[beefalo]

If this is the same panel as the one Philips announced it will also have 10 bit color.

[flibberdipper]

TN panels are like HDD and IPS panels are like SSD's. After you use IPS/SSD, you can't go back to TN/HDD.

I was comparing two good TN and IPS panels at Best Buy (both by Asus) and neither really impressed me that much to justify spending over $700 dollars on one. Guess I'm just special and I can handle it.

[briskYO]

1080p IPS 120hz plz

[kuddlesworth9419]

so you guys are saying you wouldn't have a 4k monitor due to it being tn? wow

Whats the point when the colours are sh*t. I have a TN panel and I'm using it at the moment and even I know TN is crappy in every conceivable way to IPS.

[afa7336]

The PB278Q WILL bring down prices of 4k panels so that 4k is more accessible to the masses and encourages Nvidia and AMD to produce graphics cards to perform better, so we will have sharper, more realistic gaming experiences, so I am excited for what this panel has to offer.

 

- winny3141

 

This is what it is all about.

[MrSuperb]

Not all TN panels are the same though ...

 

I am looking forward to some reviews and then will make up my mind.

[vanwazltoff]

There are good TN panels, the Asus VS series looks pretty damn good, has really good viewing angles, the best colors I have seen on TN panel.

[vanwazltoff]

WHO GIVES A **** IF ITS TN, WE GET 4K FOR $799!!!

You can already get 4k for under that price with a Seiki though don't expect quality

 

http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-Digital-SE39UY04-39-Inch-Ultra/dp/B00DOPGO2G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389097347&sr=8-1&keywords=seiki+4k

[techie]

WHO GIVES A **** IF ITS TN, WE GET 4K FOR $799!!!

exactly. Everyone here goes on about how they want 4k to get to a reasonable price. We get it so much quicker than any of us could have imagined, and everyone just complains about how their 800 FKN DOLLAR 4K MONITOR ISN'T IPS!!! I guess you just can't please some people

/rant

[RainbowTylernol]

2.5K IPS > 4K TN

I'll stick with my 278Q thanks

[beefalo]

I really wish they would have used an MVA panel just so I wouldn't have to read all of these people complaining.

[Muffinator]

Considering how their current 31.5" 4K monitor is selling for over $3000 I wonder what sort of compromises they had to make.

I'm assuming not a whole lot. The $3000 4k monitor they had probably didn't cost anything near that to produce.

[MrSuperb]

the panel type hasn't even been confirmed and yet everybody is complaining ...

[Nicktrance]

the panel type hasn't even been confirmed and yet everybody is complaining ...

 

Not announcing a panel type is usually like announcing it's TN unfortunately. But yeah there's no way it's TN unless the specs they published are wrong plus there are other 4K monitors at the same price point by other companies (Lenovo and Dell) and all hint towards being TN so it's probably the same panel, otherwise they wouldn't dare lower their price so suddenly unless they're a brand nobody knows/cares about (Seiki).

 

But yeah it's a relatively cheap panel with 4K resolution, so if you care more about resolution and refresh rate than colour accuracy and viewing angles this is the product for you, nothing new, really, it's the same story as always. I think a lot of people were already imagining this monitor with an IPS panel on their desk so their dreams were shattered when they realised it's almost certainly TN .