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LTT: We bought a cheap SSD from Ali Express..

Actually MLC could be TLC since any number that's not 'none' or 'single' can mean 'multi'. Need proof? Samsung calls their 860 evo an MLC SSD, just 3bit rather than 2bit. We should have called them DLC SSDs instead.

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Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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i have to admit, i was actually thinking of getting one 240 gig to replace my seagate 500 gig HDD. I find this video VERY useful. TY Linus ?

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also suggestion for a followup: are there ANY decent SSDs on aliexpress apart from kingston and samsung?

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1 hour ago, LMG Ivan said:

KingSpec

I thought the name seems familiar.

Used them several times, no issues (in low budget systems)

YMMV

So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds

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1 minute ago, VegetableStu said:

ARGH NUMBERS THEM DAMMIT

2LC 3LC 4LC HOW HARD CAN IT BE AAAAAAA

you can't study science subjects with attitude like that :P

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

for real though, isn't TLC triple-layer cell? why not just use numbers? o_o

because professionals want to make sure people know they hardships they went through in education, while universities want to make sure they pay their tuition fees for something, probably.

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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"I strongly recommend it as a gift for someone you don't like" -Linus 2018

 

Great idea!!! ?

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"found a manufacturer called Kingspec on Ali Express"

 

Yeah I doubt they are a manufacturer, there are so many scams on there, Linus should know better.

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They sell NVME SSDs too
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heey linus why not do a ebay vs good brand battle of devices like:

headset

gaming mouse

keyboard

components like fan controller, dust cover, fans, and others

other miscellaneous components like: usb hubs, extension cables, adapters, 

╔═════════════╦═══════════════════════════════════════════╗
║__________________║ hardware_____________________________________________________ ║
╠═════════════╬═══════════════════════════════════════════╣
║ cpu ______________║ ryzen 9 5900x_________________________________________________ ║
╠═════════════╬═══════════════════════════════════════════╣
║ GPU______________║ ASUS strix LC RX6800xt______________________________________ _║
╠═════════════╬═══════════════════════════════════════════╣
║ motherboard_______ ║ asus crosshair formulla VIII______________________________________║
╠═════════════╬═══════════════════════════════════════════╣
║ memory___________║ CMW32GX4M2Z3600C18 ______________________________________║
╠═════════════╬═══════════════════════════════════════════╣
║ SSD______________║ Samsung 980 PRO 1TB_________________________________________ ║
╠═════════════╬═══════════════════════════════════════════╣
║ PSU______________║ Corsair RM850x 850W _______________________ __________________║
╠═════════════╬═══════════════════════════════════════════╣
║ CPU cooler _______ ║ Be Quiet be quiet! PURE LOOP 360mm ____________________________║
╠═════════════╬═══════════════════════════════════════════╣
║ Case_____________ ║ Thermaltake Core X71 __________________________________________║
╠═════════════╬═══════════════════════════════════════════╣
║ HDD_____________ ║ 2TB and 6TB HDD ____________________________________________║
╠═════════════╬═══════════════════════════════════════════╣
║ Front IO__________   ║ LG blu-ray drive & 3.5" card reader, [trough a 5.25 to 3.5 bay]__________║
╠═════════════╬═══════════════════════════════════════════╣ 
║ OS_______________ ║ Windows 10 PRO______________________________________________║
╚═════════════╩═══════════════════════════════════════════╝

 

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2 hours ago, darknessblade said:

heey

and what goofy thumbnail pic will they do to go along with your ebay vs brand battle

 

countless stuff is counterfeited, not worth the bother

 

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I've been using a Pioneer branded, model APS SL2 SSD for the last year. Its been decent though at times I've experienced times where the drive shouldn't be 100% utilized.

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13 hours ago, Cotix said:

also suggestion for a followup: are there ANY decent SSDs on aliexpress apart from kingston and samsung?

Even those could be fakes. Rather better to buy from somewhere you can guarantee and/or confirm a return if it turns up as a fake.

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10 hours ago, sundeepamrutia said:

can we virtual os on SSD? VMware using Linux. or another os? I want to use SSD as an external drive.

Yup. I do it all the time.

So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds

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..and imagine that: in Hungary some popular stores selling KingSpec as a "value" brand for some time.

 

Sad but true.

 

and also not cheap, a 500g is just around 2,- USD cheaper than a SAM EVO 500

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I was waiting the end of the video because I thought you will open this and check what is inside.

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On 10/15/2018 at 2:41 PM, Jurrunio said:

We should have called them DLC SSDs instead. 

But then everyone would automatically associate them with micro transactions.

Make sure to quote or tag me (@JoostinOnline) or I won't see your response!

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3 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

But then everyone would automatically associate them with micro transactions.

pun-intended

 

download more storage is totally legit

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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KingSpec....

To be honest, nobody in China that understands a little bit of PC building would go with such SSDs. They suck.

And if I remember correctly, certain such SSDs have UFS chips from older smartphones.

These chips are usually for cache or just disgusting sellers to convince you that his "Budget Build" is worth it. (After all, it's still an SSD right?)

They can use X58 with 6-core Xeon and said that it's "i7-grade Processor" and you know how disgusting they are

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Just now, Bobguo20010714 said:

KingSpec....

To be honest, nobody in China that understands a little bit of PC building would go with such SSDs. They suck.

And if I remember correctly, certain such SSDs have UFS chips from older smartphones.

These chips are usually for cache or just disgusting sellers to convince you that his "Budget Build" is worth it. (After all, it's still an SSD right?)

They can use X58 with 6-core Xeon and said that it's "i7-grade Processor" and you know how disgusting they are

BTW there are some budget gamer use such SSDs for their game storage because following reasons:

1. They are cheap

2. They can beat a normal hard drive when it comes to gaming

3. They have warranty in China and all the games you can download from Steam or platforms like that make SSD life problem smaller

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