GTX 1080Ti or RTX 2080

[WIGs]

Hello,

 

I am considering replacing my GTX 1060 6G by something more suitable for gaming in 4K. However, I cannot decide between GTX 1080Ti and RTX 2080 due to their rather similar performance and pricing (RTX 2080Ti is beyond the budget I would be willing to spend on a card). Apart from the performance, I do emphasize the quiet operation a lot (especially under low load) as the rest of my system is near silent - however, I cannot fit cards longer than 315mm inside my case.

 

On the 1080Ti side, I can grab MSI GTX 1080Ti Gaming X (dual fan) for ~850USD (converted from Czech prices). I heard that this card runs both quiet and has a very efficient cooling (thus potentially allowing for modest overclocks - and possibly triumphing over reasonably priced 2080s?). As for 2080, I was looking at EVGA RTX 2080 GAMING SC which is sold here for ~1000USD (perhaps I would be able to get a ~100USD discount there, thus getting it closer to the price tag of 1080Ti Gaming X).

 

The question is, would you recommend grabbing one-of-the-best 1080Tis now and just enjoy it, or wait for 1-2 months in the hope that the prices of the 2080s are about to drop? (I am afraid that given the high pricing of the 2080s, I would be willing to get only some of the "entry-level" cards without any major overclocks applied anyway then.)

 

Also, if you have a recommendation of other models of the cards I should consider, I will be happy to hear them

 

Thank you!

[Shreyas1]

If you are considering to buy a game that uses RTX technology and are actually going to use it, then I would advise getting the 2080. Otherwise the 1080ti is just fine.

[Shimejii]

4k is a waste of time ATM. Still not worth doing over 2560x1440 144hz, even if it looks slightly bettter. 144hz + 100+ fps is So much more enjoyable 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

4K isn't worth it at present, get a 1440p ultrawide like Predator X34. For that, a GTX 1080 will be enough

[IAnthonyFX]

I went for a 1080ti, but I bought it used, it was like 470 usd. if you want to buy new, then 100 dollars isnt a big mark up for better resell value down the line, although peformance isnt much of a difference 

[WIGs]

37 minutes ago, Shreyas1 said:

If you are considering to buy a game that uses RTX technology and are actually going to use it, then I would advise getting the 2080. Otherwise the 1080ti is just fine.

I think that the ray tracing on its own is not that important for me (I can live without ray-traced games). I see more effect in tensor cores of the new RTX technology (as I am also playing a bit with deep learning and the tensor cores seem to bring modest speed-ups). But 1080ti, on the other hand, has a larger memory and more CUDA cores, so I guess it is roughly in this aspect.

 

35 minutes ago, TheBritishVillain said:

Neither.

 

I would save and get a 2080 Ti, even if it's just the stock version. 

 

The 2080 Ti is the first card that can consistently and comfortably retain 4K @ 60+ fps in MOST games.

 

However, if you're fine with 45-50 fps in MOST games, i would then go for the 1080 Ti.

Well, I would love to get 2080Ti - but since it is twice as expensive compared to 1080Ti (even the stock one), I am afraid I will have to skip that. I am fine with slightly lower framerates (or reducing the graphics quality a bit) in the demanding games.

 

32 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

4k is a waste of time ATM. Still not worth doing over 2560x1440 144hz, even if it looks slightly bettter. 144hz + 100+ fps is So much more enjoyable 

I have already got a 4K screen which I do not want to replace.

 

Thank you all for the replies!

 

 

[xg32]

3 hours ago, WIGs said:

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used 1080 ti or new 2080

[NUKEMDUKEM]

Dont bother with either wait untill 2nd gen turing chips or new amd.

[Livinloud]

Get a used 1080Ti..I picked one up for $450 FE edition. 

[Princess Luna]

19 hours ago, TheBritishVillain said:

The 2080 Ti is the first card that can consistently and comfortably retain 4K @ 60+ fps in MOST games.

I can play 4k 120fps on a Maxwell GTX 980 Ti lol... Just know how to setup your in-game settings instead of cracking all on maximum and complaining about low fps.

 

19 hours ago, Shimejii said:

4k is a waste of time ATM.

I'm leaned to agree, up to 27inches 2560x1440p and 4k offers the exact same virtual space due to Windows scaling, the only difference is that you get 'super sample' but at this level of pixel density it makes insignificant quality difference.

 

So there's two ways around this, high refresh 2560x1440p or 3440x1440p ultrawides, both seem to me better experiences and much more senseful.

 

18 hours ago, WIGs said:

I have already got a 4K screen which I do not want to replace.

That's a bit of a shame, 4k is still gimmick as explained but any ways, around 150 dollars is not enough to justify a RTX 2080 over the GTX 1080 Ti, both cards are essentially the same.

if you're okay playing games without cranking things to their maximum for diminishing extra eye candy you can shrug to Ray Tracing altogether and have the 1080 Ti being capable for years to come.

 

Remember Ultra Settings sucks:

DLSS is irrelevant because you'll probably rather play at native 4k than at 2560x1440p upscaled with anti-aliasing.

[WIGs]

On 10/8/2018 at 1:33 AM, NUKEMDUKEM said:

Dont bother with either wait untill 2nd gen turing chips or new amd.

I do not definitely want to get an AMD since CUDA is largely dominant when it comes to GPU computing. However, skipping both 10xx and 20xx series is a valid option which I am starting to consider (even though, I would need "some" GPU now for the second computer which I was considering to fit with my current 1060 after the upgrade of mine).

 

On 10/8/2018 at 3:05 PM, Livinloud said:

Get a used 1080Ti..I picked one up for $450 FE edition. 

To be honest, I am not comfortable with getting used parts (especially GPUs after that cryptocurrency hype). Also, I would definitely want to get some card with a more advanced cooling solution than the 10xx FE (I really want my computer to be very quiet).

 

On 10/8/2018 at 3:24 PM, Princess Cadence said:

I can play 4k 120fps on a Maxwell GTX 980 Ti lol... Just know how to setup your in-game settings instead of cracking all on maximum and complaining about low fps.

 

I'm leaned to agree, up to 27inches 2560x1440p and 4k offers the exact same virtual space due to Windows scaling, the only difference is that you get 'super sample' but at this level of pixel density it makes insignificant quality difference.

 

So there's two ways around this, high refresh 2560x1440p or 3440x1440p ultrawides, both seem to me better experiences and much more senseful.

 

That's a bit of a shame, 4k is still gimmick as explained but any ways, around 150 dollars is not enough to justify a RTX 2080 over the GTX 1080 Ti, both cards are essentially the same.

if you're okay playing games without cranking things to their maximum for diminishing extra eye candy you can shrug to Ray Tracing altogether and have the 1080 Ti being capable for years to come.

 

Remember Ultra Settings sucks:

DLSS is irrelevant because you'll probably rather play at native 4k than at 2560x1440p upscaled with anti-aliasing.

 

Well, I got my 4K monitor mainly due to the fact that I am used to high-resolution displays in out-of-game use (crisp text etc). I know, I am a bit weird in this, but switching between Surface Pro and lower-res displays (even though still sporting very high pixel densities objectively speaking) was not to my liking.

 

However, I did not have major issues playing games (even some AAA titles) in 4K even on my current 1060 (even though with some compromises) - this made me feel that 1080ti would be more than sufficient for my needs. I really do not care much if I had to play the game on the "second best" preset to get great framerates.

 

Thanks a lot for your advice! I think I will therefore either get a really cheap 1080Ti (if I manage to get one), spend more on 2080Ti (which seems to have a really great performance), or most likely just wait for the next generation of cards.

Edited October 9, 2018 by WIGs
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[CTR640]

I was kinda in the same position as you. I was waiting for the 20-series but it was so disappointing, that it made me go for 1080Ti.

Why going for 2080 if it's almost as good as 1080Ti? And all that ray tracing bullshit, I don't want and don't need it and 2080Ti is absurdly priced so that became a big no-go for me, despite got the budget for it but not gonna flush all that papermoney down the toilet just for that GPU lol

 

And I'd avoid used GPU's and so I did. Got the Aorus 1080Ti for €680. I don't trust benchmarks since they benches games very differently.

For an example, GTAV on maxed settings and 1440p or 4K but they test it without actually stressing it. You know the GTAV benchtool? Like all that shit going in air like the airplane flying over the city. The actual gameplay tests are important. It's up to. But personally, I'd avoid this lame generation.

[truedestroyer2]

i'd say 1080ti

[GamerDude]

Well, it depends on the price for me, if a new GTX1080 Ti can be had for about the same as an RTX 2080, it'd be a no-brainer as the latter is (I hate to bandy this term) more future proof. I've seen benchmarks over at guru3d that show the RTX2080 trading wins against the GTX1080 Ti (in fact, winning most gaming benchmarks I believe). But if OP gets a used GTX1080 Ti for much less, then that would be a no-brainer...I'd gotten an ex-mining card (mining for 6 months) in the Leadtek GTX1080 Hurricane OC from a local seller (with a recipt and more than 2 years of warranty left) at about 330USD (converted from local currency) and it's doing a bang-up job hooked up to my 4K TV.