New Build - Games Wont Run - Help Please!

[JordanBailey]

So, I have built plenty of PC's and have never had this issue. I have made sure all my drivers were up to date and personally feel like it is an issue with my GPU.

Basically, I just upgraded my system. Long story short I acquired some old hardware and future proofed the other parts. I HAD an AMD FX-6300 Black Edition 8GB RAM and FX580 8GB. I was able to run some pretty good games at really good resolutions and consistently get 75 FPS (I capped it at 75 since that was the extent of my monitor).

I just upgraded my CPU (and thus my motherboard and RAM) to a Ryzen 7 2700X and 16GB of DDR4 RAM on a B350 MSI Tomahawk. I booted up cinebench and blew all my old scores out of the water (obviously). So, next step was to run some renders with After Effects (my main job) and export some video from Premiere Pro. Everything went great and I was able to do everything I expected. Lastly I wanted to play some games.

So I booted up Siege and ran autodetect for the graphic settings (since it the same SSD and HDD that my old rig was running off of, I knew the settings would be saved from the old hardware and with new gear, I knew I could amp up the settings). Afterwards I ran the benchmark and got great results. Consistent FPS of over 150 and the lowest of any of the points was still over 60. The sound never cut out and everything acted great from a CPU side of things. The problem was that the video cut in and out and froze consistently, again with no interruption to the game itself as the sound was perfect the whole time; in addition to the FPS counter never dipping and the benchmark results page agreeing that I am good to go. I ran it again and even went into a T-Hunt game (horde mode, offline) where I couldn't do anything visually; but audibly everything had no issues and the game never registered an issue. I even went into Overwatch, Metro, Tomb Raider; ever game has the same issue.

I have the latest drivers, I have even uninstalled and gone back to the old drivers and updated again. Tried turning FreeSync off and back on and even running with it off. Same issue over and over again. Even if I run all the games at the lowest possible settings and lowest rendering options, I still can't visually do anything, the game stutters like crazy while the game claims to be running at 350FPS!

TLDR; New gear runs shitter than old shitty gear, but game doesnt detect issue.

[Eastman51]

7 minutes ago, JordanBailey said:

I just upgraded my CPU (and thus my motherboard and RAM) to a Ryzen 7 2700X and 16GB of DDR4 RAM on a B350 MSI Tomahawk.

I've heard that MSI AM4 boards have been pretty poor quality, so that could be a problem. But I think there's something else at work here.

9 minutes ago, JordanBailey said:

(since it the same SSD and HDD that my old rig was running off of, I knew the settings would be saved from the old hardware and with new gear, I knew I could amp up the settings).

Did you reinstall Windows after you did the upgrade? If not, thats probably your issue right there. I remember when I upgraded to Ryzen, from Intel, I accidentally booted to the old Windows install instead of my installation media. Windows got to the log on screen, for the hell of it I logged in. I was greeted immediately by a BSOD. Afterwards I reinstalled Windows and was pretty much good from there

[JordanBailey]

After some more tooling around I have gotten some games to run without issue (honestly tried a bunch of stuff, so IDK what "fixed it" for games like Overwatch) especially at Ultra. Siege is the only game I am still having major issues with.

 

4 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

Did you reinstall Windows after you did the upgrade? If not, thats probably your issue right there. I remember when I upgraded to Ryzen, from Intel, I accidentally booted to the old Windows install instead of my installation media. Windows got to the log on screen, for the hell of it I logged in. I was greeted immediately by a BSOD. Afterwards I reinstalled Windows and was pretty much good from there

I did not reinstall windows (I don't want to do it twice and am getting an NVMe M.2 SSD in a month or so) but since I went from AMD to AMD I wasn't as worried. I also am not having issues with anything CPU or GPU intensive except certain games. So I don't think that is it. If all else fails and time goes on, I will try it as a solution, but wanna try some other options first.

[Eastman51]

1 minute ago, JordanBailey said:

I did not reinstall windows (I don't want to do it twice and am getting an NVMe M.2 SSD in a month or so) but since I went from AMD to AMD I wasn't as worried.

Just so you know, boot times on NVMe SSD vs SATA SSD is like 1 second. So I wouldn't be as concerned. Also, you ALWAYS want to reinstall the OS with a motherboard swap. And its usually a good idea to reinstall with a CPU swap. I reinstalled when I switched from an i3 to my old i5. I reinstalled when I swapped boards on my i5. And I definitely reinstalled when I switched from i5 to Ryzen 5. Its just a good idea to minimize issues, and rule out anything in the OS that could cause problems

[JordanBailey]

TIL...

I'll give it a shot and see if that resolves anything.

[Eastman51]

19 minutes ago, JordanBailey said:

TIL...

I'll give it a shot and see if that resolves anything.

Yea. If you really want to move your OS to an NVMe SSD, I'd get a Samsung SSD because they have their own cloning software. Makes it really easy to swap, used it more than once on laptops.

[JordanBailey]

I'm looking at getting an Evo 970. That was one of the big draws!

[Eastman51]

Just now, JordanBailey said:

I'm looking at getting an Evo 970. That was one of the big draws!

I have an EVO 970 500GB and use it for a games drive. Its really fast, and last I checked they were on sale on Amazon.

[LogicalDrm]

13 hours ago, JordanBailey said:

I did not reinstall windows (I don't want to do it twice and am getting an NVMe M.2 SSD in a month or so) but since I went from AMD to AMD I wasn't as worried. I also am not having issues with anything CPU or GPU intensive except certain games. So I don't think that is it. If all else fails and time goes on, I will try it as a solution, but wanna try some other options first.

 

Its more about how big of jump is. For one, they are completely different architechtures so you might have as well jumped from AMD to Intel. And for two, the age difference is quite big. 6 years. So it might be that, only real way to know is to do clean install. If problems continue, then there's something else wrong.

[JordanBailey]

So, I have reinstalled windows. I even uninstalled and reinstalled my copy of Siege and still have the issue. Even when running on all low settings, the game claims to run at an average of 300 FSP and lows of over 100. Yet there is terrible stuttering and full visual freezing. I'll record it and upload a video to youtube soon then link it here. I have no problem with any other games. Overwatch is running at full ultra settings across the board and have solid framerates. Gmod, Prey, Doom, Tomb Raider, GTA V, and many other games have no issues. Siege is the only game with issues at all.

 

Side note, I am using a 2560x1080 ultrawide and have even swapped to my 16:9 1080 with the same issues.

[LogicalDrm]

15 hours ago, JordanBailey said:

So, I have reinstalled windows. I even uninstalled and reinstalled my copy of Siege and still have the issue. Even when running on all low settings, the game claims to run at an average of 300 FSP and lows of over 100. Yet there is terrible stuttering and full visual freezing. I'll record it and upload a video to youtube soon then link it here. I have no problem with any other games. Overwatch is running at full ultra settings across the board and have solid framerates. Gmod, Prey, Doom, Tomb Raider, GTA V, and many other games have no issues. Siege is the only game with issues at all.

 

Side note, I am using a 2560x1080 ultrawide and have even swapped to my 16:9 1080 with the same issues.

As its only Siege, I'm gonna say its Siege issue. I've seen one video where fps varies 150-250 depending on whats happening. Ofc if you have freezing and stuttering which you can clearly notice, there's something more going on. But can it be easily troubleshooted in single game, no. For the moment, maybe lock your fps. That should make drops less noticeable as drops aren't going to be so massive.