is the RTX 2080 worth it over 1080Ti?

[oferk99]

I pre-order RTX 2080.

Currently i'm using 2400g, I heard that the 2080 is equal to 1080Ti...

But is it worth the extra $130 over the 1080Ti (assuming the GTX 1080Ti is $670)?

Is the RTX a 30-60fps feature? if so, it is a bad feature.

 

 

 

Note: I'm moving to a different country on 9/25, in this country the prices are overprice.

GTX 1080 for $825 (with tax) compared to $525 (with tax) in USA.

Basically I can't wait to day one reviews unless the RTX 2080 will be in stock on the internet on day one and will arrive in less than 4 days.

[bcredeur97]

rtx 2080 will probably be more efficient if you care about that

 

though probably not much more

[Unhelpful]

1 minute ago, oferk99 said:

I pre-order RTX 2080.

...Why not wait until we can see some meaningful benchmarks?

[Tabs]

7 minutes ago, oferk99 said:

I pre-order RTX 2080.

Currently i'm using 2400g, I heard that the 2080 is equal to 1080Ti...

But is it worth the extra $130 over the 1080Ti (assuming the GTX 1080Ti is $670)?

Is the RTX a 30-60fps feature? if so, it is a bad feature.

 

 

 

Note: I'm moving to a different country on 9/25, in this country the prices are overprice.

GTX 1080 for $825 (with tax) compared to $525 (with tax) in USA.

Basically I can't wait to day one reviews unless the RTX 2080 will be in stock on the internet on day one and will arrive in less than 4 days.

 

Don't fall for NVidia's bullshit pre-order nonsense before reviews are off embargo. If the 2080 is much faster than the 1080Ti, you'll be able to decide for yourself based on your current use case and whether any current games are going to be updated to make use of the architecture.

 

Remember, that any games that utilise this new architectural tech won't be around for at least 2 years, and even then, it won't utilise it solely since no game company is going to limit themselves purely to an nVidia-only tech that can't work on older gpu's or competing architectures. In 2 years there'll be a better version of this tech (and perhaps an open version of it), so you'll be able to take advantage of it when software supports it.

 

If you have tends of thousands of dollars a month you don't know what to do with, the choice is a no-brainer - get the RTX 2080Ti. If you don't, then just wait a week for reviews. A lot of early adopters will be selling their old cards so expect to see lots of really nicely priced 1080 and 1080TI's on the aftermarket. That's your best bet for bang for your buck.

[chckovsky]

4 minutes ago, JoeyDM said:

...Why not wait until we can see some meaningful benchmarks?

6 minutes ago, oferk99 said:

Note: I'm moving to a different country on 9/25, in this country the prices are overprice.

GTX 1080 for $825 (with tax) compared to $525 (with tax) in USA.

Basically I can't wait to day one reviews unless the RTX 2080 will be in stock on the internet on day one and will arrive in less than 4 days.

 

I would just get a nice 10-series card at a nice discount. Fuck RTX, at least for now.

[Jrasero]

8 minutes ago, oferk99 said:

I pre-order RTX 2080.

Currently i'm using 2400g, I heard that the 2080 is equal to 1080Ti...

But is it worth the extra $130 over the 1080Ti (assuming the GTX 1080Ti is $670)?

Is the RTX a 30-60fps feature? if so, it is a bad feature.

 

 

 

Note: I'm moving to a different country on 9/25, in this country the prices are overprice.

GTX 1080 for $825 (with tax) compared to $525 (with tax) in USA.

Basically I can't wait to day one reviews unless the RTX 2080 will be in stock on the internet on day one and will arrive in less than 4 days.

Just get a 1080 Ti for $600 or bellow

 

2019-2020 seems when we will see performance gains plus better pricing with AMD introducing new cards and Intel introducing a GPU.

 

Until then yeah RTX is the best but so vastly overpriced and maybe not that much better than Pascal in traditional bench marks.  Take the extra $200+ and get more RAM or a M.2 NVME

[m0k]

no one can answer this for you until actual benchmarks get released and validated....

[knightslugger]

The demos they were showcasing seemed like the Ray Tracing could be turned on and off.

[oferk99]

6 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

The demos they were showcasing seemed like the Ray Tracing could be turned on and off.

Yes but if it a 60fps feature than the RTX 2080 isn't worth it.

I don't want to game at 60fps.

[oferk99]

Do you guys think that Pascal 1080/1080Ti will be available on Amazon (Prime) for good price one month from now?

And if the RTX 2080 will turnout to be good, will it be possible to get it within 4 days after launch (9/20) on Amazon/Nvidia website?

[Unhelpful]

16 minutes ago, oferk99 said:

Do you guys think that Pascal 1080/1080Ti will be available on Amazon (Prime) for good price one month from now?

And if the RTX 2080 will turnout to be good, will it be possible to get it within 4 days after launch (9/20) on Amazon/Nvidia website?

Previous generation GPUs don't typically lower in price because of a new generation. You get a slight dip on the day of an announcement... Then the odd clearance sale. That's about it.

 

We don't know.

[Zeitec]

Considering you can get decent 1080 ti's for $650, I'd say probably not. 

[Princess Luna]

2 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

rtx 2080 will probably be more efficient if you care about that

Wrong, the RTX cards have excessively larger dies to crank up all the new bunch of cores, they all have higher TDP than their Pascal counter parts and are likely to consume far more energy, RTX is less efficient than Pascal in every way, then again it was the only way to achieve extra performance at this point.

 

It is likely the GTX 1080 Ti will be superior to the RTX 2080 in every thing that doesn't heavily depend on Ray Tracing, considering it has more CUDA Cores which are still the main deal out there on every game engine and right now we only have a few games 'promising' to use ray tracing, which can be disabled any ways... also from looking the demos I actually liked shadows better with it turn off so eh... who knows...

 

I am extremely skeptical towards RTX line up and personally even being an enthusiast myself I'm going to probably skip it since 7nm GPUs are expected next year already.

[Alex Atkin UK]

We definitely need to wait for benchmarks and overclocking results.  Pre-ordering would seem rather foolish at this point.

[gbergeron]

3 hours ago, oferk99 said:

I pre-order RTX 2080.

Currently i'm using 2400g, I heard that the 2080 is equal to 1080Ti...

But is it worth the extra $130 over the 1080Ti (assuming the GTX 1080Ti is $670)?

Is the RTX a 30-60fps feature? if so, it is a bad feature.

 

 

 

Note: I'm moving to a different country on 9/25, in this country the prices are overprice.

GTX 1080 for $825 (with tax) compared to $525 (with tax) in USA.

Basically I can't wait to day one reviews unless the RTX 2080 will be in stock on the internet on day one and will arrive in less than 4 days.

You will tell us if it's worth it or not, benchmark the hell out of it and let us know !!!  

Tho probably we will see benchmarks before that from leaks etc...

[bcredeur97]

1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

Wrong, the RTX cards have excessively larger dies to crank up all the new bunch of cores, they all have higher TDP than their Pascal counter parts and are likely to consume far more energy, RTX is less efficient than Pascal in every way, then again it was the only way to achieve extra performance at this point.

 

It is likely the GTX 1080 Ti will be superior to the RTX 2080 in every thing that doesn't heavily depend on Ray Tracing, considering it has more CUDA Cores which are still the main deal out there on every game engine and right now we only have a few games 'promising' to use ray tracing, which can be disabled any ways... also from looking the demos I actually liked shadows better with it turn off so eh... who knows...

 

I am extremely skeptical towards RTX line up and personally even being an enthusiast myself I'm going to probably skip it since 7nm GPUs are expected next year already.

if not all the die gets used in most situations though?? theoretically if the RTX "cores" if you will aren't being used... then you are only using the actual GPU (primarly FPU's) and thus wouldn't consume the whole of the TDP?

 

also.. what if they made it have better performance per cuda core with the new architecture? Or is that not the case? 

[PrinnyExplodes]

No one knows until the reviews come out

 

[Princess Luna]

12 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

also.. what if they made it have better performance per cuda core with the new architecture? Or is that not the case? 

Not the case sadly, RTX 20 series are using pretty much an identical architecture CUDA wise to Pascal, this 12nm process is just a FinFet shrink with zero IPC gains.

 

Efficiency and IPC gains will only make a come back on 7nm architeture expected for next year.

[Neo-Bladewing]

6 hours ago, oferk99 said:

Yes but if it a 60fps feature than the RTX 2080 isn't worth it.

I don't want to game at 60fps.

So far, with very early demos that may be subject to vast changes, it would seem that the 2080 Ti struggles to hit 60fps with ray tracing enabled in 1080p. I'd highly recommend waiting until the cards actually start rolling out before making a decision, but even still I feel it's safe to assume that it won't be something to look at for high refresh rate gaming. At least not at resolutions that matter.

 

It's a safe bet to assume that these cards will be the basic, introductory cards for real-time ray tracing not meant for that perfect high end experience. I see it as an expensive novelty, at the moment. The cards' 4k performance, however, looks like it might actually make those 4k 144Hz panels relevant sooner than expected due to some clever use of AI.

 

Once again, wait until the cards release and then take another look at them and your wallet and decide from there whether they're worth it. It's a very subjective question, in the end.

[oferk99]

Update:

I bought 1080Ti.

 

 

Now I need to fix issue with the graphics driver.

Games are crashing in my PC now.

 

[kazuni]

2 hours ago, oferk99 said:

Update:

I bought 1080Ti.

 

 

Now I need to fix issue with the graphics driver.

Games are crashing in my PC now.

 

Just use latest drivers.  I am running 399 with no crashes in major AAA titles (On a Ryzen 1700x)