Struggling to achieve the desired performance I would like out of my PC

[yg_]

Hello everyone,

 

For quite a bit of time I've realized that my PC isn't performing as well as I would like it to. I compared my PC's performance to my friends PC while playing Overwatch. His PC ran at a constant 300fps in various in game situations, and mine ran at 150-240 fps and in intense fights the fps dropped to 90-70 fps. I've upgraded my PC many times and I am just not sure what to do at this point. What do you guys think is happening, and what can I do to match my friends PC performance?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

My PC specs: 

CPU: Core i7 7700k (8 core) 4.2ghz

GPU: GTX 1080ti

Motherboard: ASRock Z270 EXTREME4 Motherboard

Memory: 16GB DDR4

PSU: Corsair AX860 

Storage: 2x 2TB HHD's

 

Friends PC specs: 

CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K (6-Core) 3.7ghz

GPU: GTX 1080

Motherboard: Asus Prime Z370-P

Memory: 16GB DDR4

PSU: Corsair RM750x

Storage: 1x 240gb SSD 1x 2TB SSD

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

Are you sure you two are also comparing using the same settings and at the same resolution? 

[yg_]

1 minute ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Are you sure you two are also comparing using the same settings and at the same resolution? 

Yes. 1080p at 144hz and the settings are the same.

[App4that]

Higher the fps, the more it's based on the CPU, not the GPU. Have you tried overclocking your 7700k?

 

[yg_]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

Higher the fps, the more it's based on the CPU, not the GPU. Have you tried overclocking your 7700k?

 

I have thought about it, and I am willing to try it. I think I would need a better water cooler for that because I am using a corsair h60 atm.

[-rascal-]

Your i7-7700K is NOT a 8-core. It is a 4-core, 8-threads CPU.

Your friend's i7-8700K is a 6-core, 12-threads CPU.

 

That said, you should not be getting that much of a difference.

There is something different, either in-game settings, Windows settings.

Graphics drivers can also make a big difference.

Storage type (e.g. HDD vs SSD) should not have a significant impact...unless 

 

What version BIOS are you using for your motherboard?

What are your DRAM memory frequency + timings vs your friend's PC?

What CPU cooler if you and your friend are using?

Is his CPU overclocked, and it yours overclocked?

[DaAan]

some things i noticed immediately on those sets of specs.

 

1 your 7700k is not 8 cores its 4 cores and 8 threads

2 your friends cpu is an 8700k which is 6 cores 12 threads

 

so that alone is a performance bump in your friend's favor

 

3 you're running 2 2tb mechanical HDDs - you're friend is running 2 SSDs which again is a massive performance bump for your friend.

 

putting an SSD in your system as the boot drive will improve your performance a lot - get a 480gb SSD (m.2 nvme if you can sata if not performance will still increase) and stick windows and your most played games on it - use your mechanical drives for mass storage and you'll be good to go

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

What @DaAan said

[desertcomputer]

What game are running? The hard drive might be an issues where you have slower response time for loading new textures. I know some games gain fps improvement in term of lower drops in games such as GTA 5, as I know a friends who has similar spec but is still running hard drive will have frames drop when driving and playing with game with alot of mods which require disk access. Also if you have shadowplay running in background this will also bottleneck your hard drive as it would slow down access time and cause frames drop/lag.

 

Also you don't have 8 core cpu you have 8 threads and 4 cores.

[Wonders3004]

10 minutes ago, DaAan said:

some things i noticed immediately on those sets of specs.

 

1 your 7700k is not 8 cores its 4 cores and 8 threads

2 your friends cpu is an 8700k which is 6 cores 12 threads

 

so that alone is a performance bump in your friend's favor

 

3 you're running 2 2tb mechanical HDDs - you're friend is running 2 SSDs which again is a massive performance bump for your friend.

 

putting an SSD in your system as the boot drive will improve your performance a lot - get a 480gb SSD (m.2 nvme if you can sata if not performance will still increase) and stick windows and your most played games on it - use your mechanical drives for mass storage and you'll be good to go

An ssd will improve load times but that's it. It won't impact fps at all. Saying that overclocking the 7700k will help the 8700k boosts a bit higher than the 7700k

[MoblietzS]

Have you tried this? 

 

This improved my fps by A LOT, for example on fortnite, it went from around 100 fps, to around 140-180 fps!

And btw, a SSD WON'T give you more fps, you will only get faster loading times.

[gbergeron]

16 minutes ago, DaAan said:

some things i noticed immediately on those sets of specs.

 

1 your 7700k is not 8 cores its 4 cores and 8 threads

2 your friends cpu is an 8700k which is 6 cores 12 threads

 

so that alone is a performance bump in your friend's favor

 

3 you're running 2 2tb mechanical HDDs - you're friend is running 2 SSDs which again is a massive performance bump for your friend.

 

putting an SSD in your system as the boot drive will improve your performance a lot - get a 480gb SSD (m.2 nvme if you can sata if not performance will still increase) and stick windows and your most played games on it - use your mechanical drives for mass storage and you'll be good to go

SSD doesn't provide more FPS, just faster loading...

the 7700k should run the 1080ti almost to its fullest power

 

the build of your frienid shud have a little edge but never 300 fps vs 150

 

My eye suggest op is exagerating a big  

[gbergeron]

34 minutes ago, yg_ said:

Hello everyone,

 

For quite a bit of time I've realized that my PC isn't performing as well as I would like it to. I compared my PC's performance to my friends PC while playing Overwatch. His PC ran at a constant 300fps in various in game situations, and mine ran at 150-240 fps and in intense fights the fps dropped to 90-70 fps. I've upgraded my PC many times and I am just not sure what to do at this point. What do you guys think is happening, and what can I do to match my friends PC performance?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

My PC specs: 

CPU: Core i7 7700k (8 core) 4.2ghz

GPU: GTX 1080ti

Motherboard: ASRock Z270 EXTREME4 Motherboard

Memory: 16GB DDR4

PSU: Corsair AX860 

Storage: 2x 2TB HHD's

 

Friends PC specs: 

CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K (6-Core) 3.7ghz

GPU: GTX 1080

Motherboard: Asus Prime Z370-P

Memory: 16GB DDR4

PSU: Corsair RM750x

Storage: 1x 240gb SSD 1x 2TB SSD

7700k with gtx 1080 ti 

 

VS 

 

8700k with gtx 1080 

 

 

I take the 7700k with gtx 1080 ti for sure. Better gaming performance overall

 

 

[AskTJ]

Your 7700K is a 4 core, 8 thread.

Your friends 8700K is a 6 core, 12 thread.

 

His 8700K is better.

[yg_]

22 minutes ago, DaAan said:

some things i noticed immediately on those sets of specs.

 

1 your 7700k is not 8 cores its 4 cores and 8 threads

2 your friends cpu is an 8700k which is 6 cores 12 threads

 

so that alone is a performance bump in your friend's favor

 

3 you're running 2 2tb mechanical HDDs - you're friend is running 2 SSDs which again is a massive performance bump for your friend.

 

putting an SSD in your system as the boot drive will improve your performance a lot - get a 480gb SSD (m.2 nvme if you can sata if not performance will still increase) and stick windows and your most played games on it - use your mechanical drives for mass storage and you'll be good to go

Thank you for correcting me on the amount of cores the 7700k has. I don't know a lot about computers and I'm learning as I go. 

I am open to buying an SSD and upgrading my motherboard along with the same cpu, or a better cpu than my friend if that's what it takes to achieve the best performance I can.

And I am also open to getting a new cooler for overclocking if needed. 

[yg_]

27 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

Your i7-7700K is NOT a 8-core. It is a 4-core, 8-threads CPU.

Your friend's i7-8700K is a 6-core, 12-threads CPU.

 

That said, you should not be getting that much of a difference.

There is something different, either in-game settings, Windows settings.

Graphics drivers can also make a big difference.

Storage type (e.g. HDD vs SSD) should not have a significant impact...unless 

 

What version BIOS are you using for your motherboard?

What are your DRAM memory frequency + timings vs your friend's PC?

What CPU cooler if you and your friend are using?

Is his CPU overclocked, and it yours overclocked?

How do I check what version of BIOS I'm using for my motherboard?

CPU-Z is saying 1075MHz-1076MHz for my PC and my friends is saying 1499MHz-1500MHz.

I am using a corsair H60 and he is using a H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm.

His CPU is factory overclocked by digital storm and mine is not overclocked.

[yg_]

18 minutes ago, MoblietzS said:

Have you tried this? 

 

This improved my fps by A LOT, for example on fortnite, it went from around 100 fps, to around 140-180 fps!

And btw, a SSD WON'T give you more fps, you will only get faster loading times.

I will try this out and let you know how it works, thank you.

[MoblietzS]

Just now, yg_ said:

I will try this out and let you know how it works, thank you.

I really hope it will work for you!

[-rascal-]

18 hours ago, yg_ said:

How do I check what version of BIOS I'm using for my motherboard?

CPU-Z is saying 1075MHz-1076MHz for my PC and my friends is saying 1499MHz-1500MHz.

I am using a corsair H60 and he is using a H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm.

His CPU is factory overclocked by digital storm and mine is not overclocked.

 

CPU-Z, or within the BIOS itself, will tell you.

You can check it in CPU-Z, under the "Mainboard" tab.

 

Your memory is running at the stock/auto 2133 MHz.

Your friend's PC is running memory at 3000 MHz (e.g. XMP enabled).

 

The Corsair H60 cooler is not a best AIO cooler, but certainly not the worst.

As long as your CPU is not overheating, and thermal throttling (e.g. temperatures 90*C+), then it should not be a problem.

 

The CPU overclock will be one of the bigger reason why your friend is getting higher FPS -- especially if DigitalStorm overclocks the CPU close to 5.0 GHz.

 

 

Basically, as far as I can see, right now:

• Overclocked CPU
• Faster memory = giving a small FPS boost
• Extra cores and threads (apparently OverWatch utilize up to 6 cores)

[yg_]

2 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

CPU-Z, or within the BIOS itself, will tell you.

You can check it in CPU-Z, under the "Mainboard" tab.

 

Your memory is running at the stock/auto 2133 MHz.

Your friend's PC is running memory at 3000 MHz (e.g. XMP enabled).

 

The Corsair H60 cooler is not a best AIO cooler, but certainly not the worst.

As long as your CPU is not overheating, and thermal throttling (e.g. temperatures 90*C+), then it should not be a problem.

 

The CPU overclock will be one of the bigger reason why your friend is getting higher FPS -- especially if DigitalStorm overclocks the CPU close to 5.0 GHz.

 

 

Basically, as far as I can see, right now:

• Overclocked CPU
• Faster memory = giving a small FPS boost
• Extra cores and threads (apparently OverWatch utilize up to 6 cores)

I'm going to try overclocking my cpu and enable xmp and see if that helps a bit, and if I feel an upgrade is needed I will do so.

 

Thank you for all the help so far.