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algorithm which automatically invests when bitcoin value is low and cashes out when value bitcoin value is high

1 minute ago, frozeNNN said:

Yeah, pretty much on every exchange site.

why is not everyone rich then

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Just now, Assassinguy2623 said:

why is not everyone rich then

Cuz you have to define your own "low" and "high" price.

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Just now, Assassinguy2623 said:

why is not everyone rich then

Because nobody can see into the future and most people hold onto it longer than they should in hopes the value will always go back up and a lot of people bought when it was really expensive before it tanked and now they are either holding onto it in the faint hope it goes back up or they sold at a loss.

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Just now, Assassinguy2623 said:

why is not everyone rich then

Because a lot of people don't have enough money to invest, don't know how, or just don't care about cryptocurrency.

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3 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Because nobody can see into the future and most people hold onto it longer than they should in hopes the value will always go back up and a lot of people bought when it was really expensive before it tanked and now they are either holding onto it in the faint hope it goes back up or they sold at a loss.

but i swear bitcoin value is fluctuating all the by a tiny bit so for example can't the algoritm just invest like a dollar when the bitcoin value is low and you get 0.0000000001 btc in return and then when the value of a bitcoin value goes up by like 50 cent or so the algorithm can automatically cash out again and get a 50cent profit - the algorithm can just keep doing this again and again automatically and eventually you will make a big profit. Would that not work?

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1 minute ago, Assassinguy2623 said:

but i swear bitcoin value is fluctuating all the by a tiny bit so for example can't the algoritm just invest like a dollar when the bitcoin value is low and you get 0.0000000001 btc in return and then when the value of a bitcoin value goes up by like 50 cent or so the algorithm can automatically cash out again and get a 50cent profit - the algorithm can just keep doing this again and again automatically and eventually you will make a big profit. Would that not work?

Then answer has been given: you need to A) define what is low B) have some sort of time scale (probably) on which you want to invest / expect returns.

Say you bought a BTC for $1 last week. Today you can buy more for  $0.90 and sell for $1.10. Should you buy more now? What if it's $0.80 tomorrow? What if you can sell it for $2 in 2 days? These are all things you cannot really predict. You can only make educated guesses.

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5 minutes ago, Assassinguy2623 said:

but i swear bitcoin value is fluctuating all the by a tiny bit so for example can't the algoritm just invest like a dollar when the bitcoin value is low and you get 0.0000000001 btc in return and then when the value of a bitcoin value goes up by like 50 cent or so the algorithm can automatically cash out again and get a 50cent profit - the algorithm can just keep doing this again and again automatically and eventually you will make a big profit. Would that not work?

Risky

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Are you going to make enough money from month to month to live a normal life with such strategy?

 

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1 minute ago, tikker said:

Then answer has been given: you need to A) define what is low B) have some sort of time scale (probably) on which you want to invest / expect returns.

Say you bought a BTC for $1 last week. Today you can buy more for  $0.90 and sell for $1.10. Should you buy more now? What if it's $0.80 tomorrow? What if you can sell it for $2 in 2 days? These are all things you cannot really predict. You can only make educated guesses.

you just wait for the bitcoin value to go higher than what it was when you invested I mean it has to eventually right?

anyway can someone help me setup to do this bitcoin trading or point me to a guide please

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1 minute ago, frozeNNN said:

Risky

Time consuming

Slow

 

Are you going to make enough money from month to month to live a normal life with such strategy?

 

not if you only put in like $5 it could eventually turn into $1000

and no obviously i will have a job but it could just be a side thing to make money from

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1 minute ago, Assassinguy2623 said:

not if you only put in like $5 it could eventually turn into $1000

and no obviously i will have a job but it could just be a side thing to make money from

If you invested $5 and it went up by 200% you still would only have $10 and that kind of jump doesn't happen everyday. There is also exchange fees and cashout fees

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1 minute ago, Assassinguy2623 said:

not if you only put in like $5 it could eventually turn into $1000

and no obviously i will have a job but it could just be a side thing to make money from

Then buy 5$ worth of BTC and wait it to become 1000$

 

By the way I'm pretty sure BTC won't make a 200x any time soon, probably never again.

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1 minute ago, Assassinguy2623 said:

you just wait for the bitcoin value to go higher than what it was when you invested I mean it has to eventually right?

You still have to set some threshold. If it was literally "cash out when the value is higher", then BTC could go up 1 cent and it would immediately cash out. That's not really a worthwhile investment plan.

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Last I checked the reason is transaction cost.  Its so high (or last I checked) its not worth it to buy or sell small amounts.

 

 

nvm thats changed I see

 

I reckon people do this, as you can set it on exchanges like already mentioned, and im sure a few people do have some programs they made or bought to accomplish this.  Its called robotrading and is used in normal exchanges as well.  But no one is going to share that program with you without paying them A LOT if it actually works.

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3 minutes ago, Denned said:

You can't make an algoritm for something that's random.. 

I get what you mean but there are buy and sell orders on exchanges which would be things that he asks for. But to add onto that, you said "something that's random" and these are perfect words to describe the market and that's why only lucky ones make money in crypto, or ones who have shit ton of money and don't give a f***.

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1 minute ago, Underwrought said:

Last I checked the reason is transaction cost.  Its so high (or last I checked) its not worth it to buy or sell small amounts.

They came down a lot.

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1 hour ago, Assassinguy2623 said:

you just wait for the bitcoin value to go higher than what it was when you invested I mean it has to eventually right?

anyway can someone help me setup to do this bitcoin trading or point me to a guide please

Does it? That's the thing about stock markets and similarly volatile things like cryptocurrency. It's unpredicatble. For all we know bitcoin could be worth zip from tomorrow on, unlikely, but possible. Anyway, exchange sites like GDAX already let you do this. You set parameters for buy and sell orders you'd like to put up, along with limits on how much you want to spend, for example. It then does these things for you.

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On 8/4/2018 at 10:36 AM, Assassinguy2623 said:

why is not everyone rich then

think of the psychology too.

"oh man we're at $20k and im up 500%+ lets keep this train rolling"

when in reality you should probably think about selling.

But what if you sell and it keeps going? im sure people sold at $10k and saw it go to $20k and wish they hadn't missed out.

How can one define when "the price is high" in reality NO ONE knows when it will reverse. but when it does; it does.

 

trading is not easy. And if you write a bot to do it; someone can just write a bot that effectively works against you. It's a never ending battle.

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