15-8400/gtx1050 ti

[fibaf]

im a first time builder from the philippines and would like to ask if the gtx1050 ti bottlenecks the i5-8400, im on a budget of $750 or less, would greatly appreciate any recommendations.

[Sernefarian]

If your budget is intended in $US then this works inside that budget and nets you a 1060 6GB.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.89 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($36.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - AV-GP 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: DIYPC - Ranger-R4-R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.97 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($28.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $721.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-12 08:35 EDT-0400

[Sernefarian]

And the 8400 would be more than enough to feed the 1050 ti and at least some of the time would likely have little to no game process tasks to do so... the 1050 ti would probably do so. Unless you run things at something like 480 or 720p inw hich case it might not.

[userzero]

1050ti - serious bottleneck.

[fibaf]

do you know any cpu that will be perfect with the 1050ti?

 

[fibaf]

24 minutes ago, Sernefarian said:

If your budget is intended in $US then this works inside that budget and nets you a 1060 6GB.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.89 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($36.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - AV-GP 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: DIYPC - Ranger-R4-R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.97 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($28.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $721.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-12 08:35 EDT-0400

the prices in the philippine market is still high, the gtx1060 videocard costs about $480. :(((( 

[AngryBeaver]

I changed up the build a little over the above poster. I go over your budget by about $50 (so minimal)

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RfTQRJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RfTQRJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8500 3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($203.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Patriot - Burst 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-05 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ B&H)
Total: $799.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-12 08:58 EDT-0400

 

 

So the changes I made which you don't need to make all of if you don't want.

 

*swapped 8400 for 8500 - minimal price difference, but higher clocks. These cpu's can't be overclocked so this helps.

*Power supply - went with a gold psu, because going cheap here is NOT a good thing.

*Case - Better brand, better aesthetics (in my opinion).

*SSD from 120 to 240gb. A 120gb drive is not even worth it these days.

*HDD 5400 to 7200. No reason to ever buy a 5400rpm HDD for a desktop. Also doubled the storage size so minimal price difference.

 

[fibaf]

3 minutes ago, AngryBeaver said:

I changed up the build a little over the above poster. I go over your budget by about $50 (so minimal)

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RfTQRJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RfTQRJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8500 3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($203.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Patriot - Burst 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-05 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ B&H)
Total: $799.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-12 08:58 EDT-0400

 

 

So the changes I made which you don't need to make all of if you don't want.

 

*swapped 8400 for 8500 - minimal price difference, but higher clocks. These cpu's can't be overclocked so this helps.

*Power supply - went with a gold psu, because going cheap here is NOT a good thing.

*Case - Better brand, better aesthetics (in my opinion).

*SSD from 120 to 240gb. A 120gb drive is not even worth it these days.

*HDD 5400 to 7200. No reason to ever buy a 5400rpm HDD for a desktop. Also doubled the storage size so minimal price difference.

 

prices in the philippine market is still high and it sucks, can you recommend any build that is worth $600 and below?

 

[AngryBeaver]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HMhbkd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HMhbkd/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8300 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($141.61 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($54.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Hitachi - Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.00 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card  ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-05 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $589.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-12 09:18 EDT-0400

[adamgasth]

12 minutes ago, fibaf said:

prices in the philippine market is still high and it sucks, can you recommend any build that is worth $600 and below?

 

I got one. Although this one is way weaker than what you originally planned. But hey, it's budget 

 

[PCPartPicker part list](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/wtRrMZ) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/wtRrMZ/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/RkJtt6/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd2200c5fbbox) | €82.84 @ Mindfactory 
**Motherboard** | [MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/4D7v6h/msi-x470-gaming-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-gaming-plus) | €137.51 @ Mindfactory 
**Memory** | [Patriot - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/VDc48d/patriot-8gb-2-x-4gb-ddr4-2400-memory-psd48g2400k) | €85.89 @ Alternate 
**Storage** | [ADATA - Ultimate SU650 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/GjGxFT/adata-ultimate-su650-120gb-25-solid-state-drive-asu650ss-120gt-c) | €33.99 @ Amazon Deutschland 
**Storage** | [Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | €42.90 @ Caseking 
**Case** | [Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/pDphP6/corsair-case-spec01redled) | €51.93 @ Mindfactory 
**Power Supply** | [be quiet! - Pure Power 10 500W 80+ Silver Certified ATX Power Supply](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/4kKhP6/be-quiet-pure-power-10-500w-80-silver-certified-atx-power-supply-bn273) | €66.41 @ Amazon Deutschland 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | **Total** | **€501.47**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2018-07-12 15:15 CEST+0200 |

[Sernefarian]

First an intel version:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($118.39 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Patriot - Burst 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($48.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Mainstream 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Best Buy) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Edition Video Card  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: DIYPC - P48-W ATX Mid Tower Case  ($23.97 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - BT 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Scythe - Slipstream 110.3 CFM  120mm Fan  ($9.39 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $591.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-12 09:17 EDT-0400

 

Next an AMD version that has Wifi

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($94.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI (rev. 1.0) Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Walmart) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Patriot - Burst 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Mainstream 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Best Buy) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Edition Video Card  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: DIYPC - P48-W ATX Mid Tower Case  ($23.97 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - BT 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Scythe - Slipstream 110.3 CFM  120mm Fan  ($9.39 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $592.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-12 09:21 EDT-0400

[AskTJ]

Get an i5 3470 prebuilt, then chuck in a 1050Ti into it. Parts pair well and it will be cheap.

[DocSwag]

The gpu will bottleneck, but you would much rather have that than a cpu bottleneck. At any rate, the choice is fine as the 8400 gives you room to upgrade in the future without worrying about a cpu bottleneck.

7 minutes ago, Sernefarian said:

Power Supply: EVGA - BT 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 

Why such a low end psu when the CX450M is the same price?

[Sernefarian]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Mainstream 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Best Buy) 
Case: DIYPC - P48-W ATX Mid Tower Case  ($23.97 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - BT 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Scythe - Slipstream 110.3 CFM  120mm Fan  ($9.39 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $478.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-12 09:28 EDT-0400

 

Less costly Ryzen Version. Next up is very very near to the lowest possible cost Ryzen 3 version I could build with USA parts picker.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - A320M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Patriot - Signature Line 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($40.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA - S599 40GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($18.66 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Mainstream 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Best Buy) 
Case: Rosewill - SCM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - BT 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Scythe - Slipstream 110.3 CFM  120mm Fan  ($9.39 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $298.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-12 09:34 EDT-0400

 

With current generation processors it is very difficult to go lower than that last build.

 

Think in order to be a completionist I'll compile it.

 

Below is the lowest cost AM4 build I even feel comfortable posting anywhere.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - A6-9500E 3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($57.95 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - A320M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Elite Plus 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($40.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - S599 40GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($18.66 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - AV-GP 250GB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($17.50 @ Amazon) 
Case: Rosewill - SCM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - BT 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Scythe - Slipstream 110.3 CFM  120mm Fan  ($9.39 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $239.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-12 09:37 EDT-0400

Edited July 12, 2018 by Sernefarian
I might have lied. That last build list made me feel dirty all up in my techie.

[AngryBeaver]

The OP wants a decent GPU though. So all of these 2200g/2400g builds will not provide that. Those chips are on on par with a 1030... which is MUCH weaker than the 1050ti (anywhere from 35-50% of the performance).

 

 

[Biggerboot]

1 hour ago, fibaf said:

im a first time builder from the philippines and would like to ask if the gtx1050 ti bottlenecks the i5-8400, im on a budget of $750 or less, would greatly appreciate any recommendations.

To kinda expand on what DocSwag said, GPU bottleneck is technically what you want.  There's more room for a higher end GPU on an 8400, but you would rather be maxing out the GPU for a better playing experience.  CPU bottleneck can result in stutters and bring your entire system to a halt.

You could balance it out with an i3 8100 like some suggested.

[fibaf]

21 hours ago, DocSwag said:

The gpu will bottleneck, but you would much rather have that than a cpu bottleneck. At any rate, the choice is fine as the 8400 gives you room to upgrade in the future without worrying about a cpu bottleneck.

Why such a low end psu when the CX450M is the same price?

thanks for this

 

[fibaf]

22 hours ago, DocSwag said:

The gpu will bottleneck, but you would much rather have that than a cpu bottleneck. At any rate, the choice is fine as the 8400 gives you room to upgrade in the future without worrying about a cpu bottleneck.

Why such a low end psu when the CX450M is the same price?

my classmate said that if i continue with this system the performance of the pc will be greatly affected and will have lags and stutters because of bottlenecking. is this true? @DocSwag

[rukspuks]

23 hours ago, fibaf said:

the prices in the philippine market is still high, the gtx1060 videocard costs about $480. :(((( 

It's $400 in my country so about the same. You could buy from USA and forward using services like shipito/USAgobuy

[DocSwag]

2 hours ago, fibaf said:

my classmate said that if i continue with this system the performance of the pc will be greatly affected and will have lags and stutters because of bottlenecking. is this true? @DocSwag

The pc will be greatly affected? I guess you could argue this, since if you went for an 8100 + gtx 1060 you would have a lot better performance right now, but don't have as much room cpu wise in the future. The lags and stutters part isn't true though: gpu bottlenecks don't result in lags and stutters unless the gpu itself is bottlenecked by the vram. Usually cpu bottlenecks result in lags and stutters.