Server to earn a living ??

[Ezzy-525]

2 hours ago, OCD-FREAK said:

nope, i have the knowledge, but iam just collecting opinions from everyone to improve my ideas.

You say you have the knowledge but whenever someone offers an idea you ask them to pretty much give you a step by step on how to do it...

 

This thread has reached 3 pages and the summary is you reiterating that your "friends" are making a killing on a single server and hiding how to do it from you, so you want us to tell you step by step how they are doing it.

 

It's an impossible thread, but good luck.

[OCD-FREAK]

3 minutes ago, Ezzy-525 said:

You say you have the knowledge but whenever someone offers an idea you ask them to pretty much give you a step by step on how to do it...

yes, it's how i like it, maybe when you are giving me step by step you mention something new that i don't know of

[Ezzy-525]

5 minutes ago, OCD-FREAK said:

yes, it's how i like it, maybe when you are giving me step by step you mention something new that i don't know of

Well unfortunately I think you're out of luck on here then.

 

Maybe English isn't your native language, so I'll forgive the obnoxiousness of your replies to myself and everyone else in here.

 

Good luck and fair seas, and in my personal opinion, your only option is finding out what your friend does with his server and replicate it.

[OCD-FREAK]

55 minutes ago, Ezzy-525 said:

Well unfortunately I think you're out of luck on here then.

 

Maybe English isn't your native language, so I'll forgive the obnoxiousness of your replies to myself and everyone else in here.

 

Good luck and fair seas, and in my personal opinion, your only option is finding out what your friend does with his server and replicate it.

what do you mean by English is not my native language mate ?, LOL, iam English .

[Ezzy-525]

3 minutes ago, OCD-FREAK said:

what do you mean by English is not my native language mate , LOL? iam English  

Nevermind. But good luck anyway.

 

Try asking that friend of yours for some guidance on how to do what you're attempting.

[OCD-FREAK]

1 minute ago, Ezzy-525 said:

Nevermind. But good luck anyway.

 

Try asking that friend of yours for some guidance on how to do what you're attempting.

whatever.

[Sir Asvald]

18 minutes ago, OCD-FREAK said:

whatever.

What's with the attitude?

[OCD-FREAK]

23 minutes ago, Abdul201588 said:

What's with the attitude?

He is calling me obnoxious, when he is the one acting so, and judging my english as it's not my native language Lol.

If he don't want to help, he should not respond or read my post in the first place , simple as that. 

[K4lim]

You already got several ideas:

- host gameservers for popular games and sell items/dontaion ranks (pay 2 win)

- sell gameserver/webhosting to other people

- rent your servers

- sell your servers

- host porn

 

With 30 servers you could start your own little data centre and sell webhosting/storage to local companies.

Just remember that you need to start a business in most countries before doing most of the stuff listed here.

 

[chiller15]

If you want to have a business using your own Internet connection...you'll need to have a business Internet connection, otherwise you'll probably be in breach of your terms and conditions.

[OCD-FREAK]

2 minutes ago, chiller15 said:

If you want to have a business using your own Internet connection...you'll need to have a business Internet connection, otherwise you'll probably be in breach of your terms and conditions.

thanks for you suggestion, iam aiming to enroll in gigabit business connection with my ISP company. but what about some ideas from you ? appreciated 

[OCD-FREAK]

3 minutes ago, TimsTips said:

You need at least two internet connections, batteries and a generator.

good to know, i have a couple of UPSs laying around and i am also trying to figure out what is the the most speedy and stable internet connection one can get ? maybe i start another post on this subject specifically ? 

[Kukielka]

You don't seem to know what you are doing, or you're just clickbaiting for memes.

 

There are no secrets.

If you actually have servers at your disposal, altough I highly doubt that, rent out the hardware.

Since no sane person would rent a server from someone who asks in an public online forum on how to make money, you are pretty much out of luck.

[chiller15]

20 minutes ago, OCD-FREAK said:

thanks for you suggestion, iam aiming to enroll in gigabit business connection with my ISP company. but what about some ideas from you ? appreciated 

Honestly, I have no ideas for uses with servers at home, I was just ensuring you know your ISP limits. If you can afford ~£250 a month (probably more) for a business Internet connection, then sure, why not?

[OCD-FREAK]

6 minutes ago, Kukielka said:

You don't seem to know what you are doing, or you're just clickbaiting for memes.

 

There are no secrets.

If you actually have servers at your disposal, altough I highly doubt that, rent out the hardware.

Since no sane person would rent a server from someone who asks in an public online forum on how to make money, you are pretty much out of luck.

you understood the whole concept in a wrong way, i am afraid.

[AngryBeaver]

Ok, I think it is time for some hard truth in this thread now. I have entertained OP enough with ideas.

 

The truth is this, you can make money on the side with your servers. There are many ways to do it, but you need to find the one that works for YOU. Now you aren't going to get rich from this or even (in most cases) make enough money to have it be your only income source. You just do not have the capital or resources to invest to make it large enough for that.

 

Even if you did have the capital it would be a very risky venture. Hosting isn't consistent and has its moments of feast of famine and the first famine or even a slow start could be the death to your company. Even if you start slow and scale up, a few cancelled subs could take you into the red for that month. Why do you think so many people are using AWS? I can tell you one of the big reasons is on demand scalability and the fact they can use what they need without the risk associate to buying their own equipment.

 

One of your best options would be to setup VPS's on your machines and rent them out... or rent out a full dedicated box. The problem is, with the amount of machines you have you don't have the backbone to support the network infrastructure they will require. A 1 gigabit connection for that many machines will not cut it. It will just take 1 heavy users to bring things to a crawl and cost you customers. If you invest in a 10gb connection then you would be a little better off, but even then the cost associated with that connection will make profitability low.

 

Now we need to cover security. You will have some basic level of protection, but you will not have anywhere near what you would need to compete with a big provider. If you have any security incidents then you could be liable for damages incurred by your clients. So now you will need to invest in security options (which are not cheap) and if you do not have the background to configure, monitor, and maintain them... then you will need to eat the cost to bring on someone who can.

 

Then we have heat. How are you going to keep these machines cool? Is this going to be in your house? If so these will be loud and I doubt you will be happy with that situation. What about hardware failures? How quick are you going to be able to respond to hardware issues? Do you have plenty of spare drives, ram, etc on hand? If not you will need to invest there too. Are you going to offer support and troubleshooting for your servers? If so how are you going to handle that many clients (which you will see a constant amount of support requests for). Maybe you will need to spend some money here too, need to bring more people on.

 

So lets say you have done most of these things. You might be up to 200 servers for a good 20k a month, but after electricity, software costs, employee costs, etc... you MIGHT make 3-5k of that. So 36,000-60,000 a year in profit (much less after tax as a small business owner). Now if you have a handful of your clients cancel their subscriptions... then all of a sudden you are creeping into the red. Your overhead would stay mostly constant, but your monthly income from clients will not be.

[K4lim]

You don't have any concept. That's why you created this thread, didn't you?

[OCD-FREAK]

1 minute ago, AngryBeaver said:

Ok, I think it is time for some hard truth in this thread now. I have entertained OP enough with ideas.

 

The truth is this, you can make money on the side with your servers. There are many ways to do it, but you need to find the one that works for YOU. Now you aren't going to get rich from this or even (in most cases) make enough money to have it be your only income source. You just do not have the capital or resources to invest to make it large enough for that.

 

Even if you did have the capital it would be a very risky venture. Hosting isn't consistent and has its moments of feast of famine and the first famine or even a slow start could be the death to your company. Even if you start slow and scale up, a few cancelled subs could take you into the red for that month. Why do you think so many people are using AWS? I can tell you one of the big reasons is on demand scalability and the fact they can use what they need without the risk associate to buying their own equipment.

 

One of your best options would be to setup VPS's on your machines and rent them out... or rent out a full dedicated box. The problem is, with the amount of machines you have you don't have the backbone to support the network infrastructure they will require. A 1 gigabit connection for that many machines will not cut it. It will just take 1 heavy users to bring things to a crawl and cost you customers. If you invest in a 10gb connection then you would be a little better off, but even then the cost associated with that connection will make profitability low.

 

Now we need to cover security. You will have some basic level of protection, but you will not have anywhere near what you would need to compete with a big provider. If you have any security incidents then you could be liable for damages incurred by your clients. So now you will need to invest in security options (which are not cheap) and if you do not have the background to configure, monitor, and maintain them... then you will need to eat the cost to bring on someone who can.

 

Then we have heat. How are you going to keep these machines cool? Is this going to be in your house? If so these will be loud and I doubt you will be happy with that situation. What about hardware failures? How quick are you going to be able to respond to hardware issues? Do you have plenty of spare drives, ram, etc on hand? If not you will need to invest there too. Are you going to offer support and troubleshooting for your servers? If so how are you going to handle that many clients (which you will see a constant amount of support requests for). Maybe you will need to spend some money here too, need to bring more people on.

 

So lets say you have done most of these things. You might be up to 200 servers for a good 20k a month, but after electricity, software costs, employee costs, etc... you MIGHT make 3-5k of that. So 36,000-60,000 a year in profit (much less after tax as a small business owner). Now if you have a handful of your clients cancel their subscriptions... then all of a sudden you are creeping into the red. Your overhead would stay mostly constant, but your monthly income from clients will not be.

appreciated the amount of time you spent to write all this information, many thanks sir !

[AngryBeaver]

1 minute ago, K4lim said:

You don't have any concept. That's why you created this thread, didn't you?

I think the problem is too many people think that if you have a server then you can instantly turn that in to a sustainable income. Which just isn't true in most cases.

 

I mean sure you can turn it into a supplemental income if you have the know how, but the risks going with anything bigger as a single individual far outweigh the potential benefits.

[OCD-FREAK]

2 minutes ago, K4lim said:

You don't have any concept. That's why you created this thread, didn't you?

you didn't understand my question, iam afraid. please don't post if you don't want to help, leave it to other people. thanks

[OCD-FREAK]

1 minute ago, AngryBeaver said:

I think the problem is too many people think that if you have a server then you can instantly turn that in to a sustainable income. Which just isn't true in most cases.

 

I mean sure you can turn it into a supplemental income if you have the know how, but the risks going with anything bigger as a single individual far outweigh the potential benefits.

you are partially correct here. 

[K4lim]

I've already answered your question.

[OCD-FREAK]

1 minute ago, K4lim said:

I've already answered your question.

ok good, if you think so, thank you then   

[chiller15]

2 hours ago, OCD-FREAK said:

what do you mean by English is not my native language mate ?, LOL, iam English .

Some of your replies throughout this thread and other threads you've created (that I've come across so far) have been quite hostile and reading through your posts I could forgive anyone who assumes that English isn't your first language.

 

The problem is there isn't anything that I can think of that a standard person working from home can do with some servers to make money.

 

Let's say you decide that you're going to turn your servers into an online hosting/content delivery service to make money. Let's then say that you've got 100GB of storage that you are leasing out for £100 a month. Now lets say that I work for a school (which I do) and I'm looking for 100GB of online storage to host an online learning resource. If I had two quotes: 1) Yours for £100 a month, or 2) an established business with proven ability for £1000 a month...I would not even consider bringing your proposal to the table, despite the huge savings.

 

You may wonder why, given the savings that I'd make (given how stretched school budgets are in recent years). The reason is that I cannot trust that you're going be able to reliably provide the service that we need and you don't have a proven track record with previous clients. We need the up time, the bandwidth and most importantly, the expected levels of service/support.

[OCD-FREAK]

11 minutes ago, chiller15 said:

Some of your replies throughout this thread and other threads you've created (that I've come across so far) have been quite hostile and reading through your posts I could forgive anyone who assumes that English isn't your first language.

 

The problem is there isn't anything that I can think of that a standard person working from home can do with some servers to make money.

 

Let's say you decide that you're going to turn your servers into an online hosting/content delivery service to make money. Let's then say that you've got 100GB of storage that you are leasing out for £100 a month. Now lets say that I work for a school (which I do) and I'm looking for 100GB of online storage to host an online learning resource. If I had two quotes: 1) Yours for £100 a month, or 2) an established business with proven ability for £1000 a month...I would not even consider bringing your proposal to the table, despite the huge savings.

 

You may wonder why, given the savings that I'd make (given how stretched school budgets are in recent years). The reason is that I cannot trust that you're going be able to reliably provide the service that we need and you don't have a proven track record with previous clients. We need the up time, the bandwidth and most importantly, the expected levels of service/support.

so if you are viewing me as hostile/obnoxious from my writing on an internet post, that means that my English is not my first language ? but anyway, thats your opinion.

 

iam only interest in answers that has to do with my main question.