Normal Tempreture for I7-4970

[Letme]

Hello Guys,

 

Yesterday i have replaced my lower CPU was G3250 with better one which is I7-4790 (non K), i am having a confuse about the Temp of CPU since the moment i placed the Newer CPU and heat somehow for what i am seeing is high!

 

the PC when idle will be have temp between 36~40 and by using it from goes 50~70 (not gaming) is this is normal or i have made something wrong with it? sometimes hit 75+.

 

i was not hitting 45 degree with the Pentium processor (G3250) even while using it, i think max degree was like 43

 

please refer for these snap shots of PC Specs and resources,

 

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1lteslxiw/

 

Kindly note that when i took the pics today i was opening intentionally many programs and making Scan with windows defender to test it out. and i do not have dedicated GPU.

 

Thanks,

 

[TVwazhere]

4 minutes ago, Letme said:

Hello Guys,

 

Yesterday i have replaced my lower CPU was G3250 with better one which is I7-4790 (non K), i am having a confuse about the Temp of CPU since the moment i placed the Newer CPU and heat somehow for what i am seeing is high!

 

Thanks,

 

Welcome to the forums!

 

To keep it simple, your i7-4790 is much more powerful than your G3250, and as such it produces a LOT more heat. It's perfectly normal your your usual temperature to go up! And dont worry, 75ºC is a perfectly safe temperature to operate at. As long as it's not above 90ºC, you should never have any issues with performance

[Nas]

The chip you have now has both a higher clockrate and 2 more cores, so it's going to produce much more heat at stock speeds. Those temperatures sound normal for a stock cooler, is that what you're using?

[Letme]

Just now, TVwazhere said:

Welcome to the forums!

 

To keep it simple, your i7-4790 is much more powerful than your G3250, and as such it produces a LOT more heat. It's perfectly normal your your usual temperature to go up! And dont worry, 75ºC is a perfectly safe temperature to operate at. As long as it's not above 90ºC, you should never have any issues with performance

Thanks for the quick reply,

 

i know that it is more powerful but was having the concern and wanted to clear it out, was telling myself that if not gaming and hit this mark how it will goes while playing game in future i hope.

 

 

[Bananasplit_00]

under 90C and you are good. 75C is no problem though it sounds like you have quite a small cooler, like the Intel stock one

[Letme]

3 minutes ago, Nas said:

The chip you have now has both a higher clockrate and 2 more cores, so it's going to produce much more heat at stock speeds. Those temperatures sound normal for a stock cooler, is that what you're using?

yes stock cooler, and to be honest this is the cooler that came with G3250, when i got the 4790 i got it from a friend so no cooler with came with it because it was installed in a pre built tower from lenovo.

[Crunchy Dragon]

4 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Welcome to the forums!

 

To keep it simple, your i7-4790 is much more powerful than your G3250, and as such it produces a LOT more heat. It's perfectly normal your your usual temperature to go up! And dont worry, 75ºC is a perfectly safe temperature to operate at. As long as it's not above 90ºC, you should never have any issues with performance

75C during normal use seems pretty high to me. Might just be Intel's bad stock cooler.

[Letme]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

75C during normal use seems pretty high to me. Might just be Intel's bad stock cooler.

so after market stock cooler would make an improvement?

[Nas]

Just now, Letme said:

so after market stock cooler would make an improvement?

Definitely. But if you buy one, don't go with the Hyper 212 EVO or it's other variants, Cryorig makes better value coolers, and if you feel like spending big bucks, buy something from the Dark Rock series.

[TVwazhere]

6 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

75C during normal use seems pretty high to me. Might just be Intel's bad stock cooler.

I had assumed Stock cooler, as it should be enough for a non K variant of intel's coolers.

5 minutes ago, Letme said:

so after market stock cooler would make an improvement?

Yes, but only to temperatures. The chip will perform the same at 50ºC or 75ºC

[Crunchy Dragon]

7 minutes ago, Nas said:

Definitely. But if you buy one, don't go with the Hyper 212 EVO or it's other variants, Cryorig makes better value coolers, and if you feel like spending big bucks, buy something from the Dark Rock series.

If you're on a budget, the 212 does a good job keeping an overclocked 4770K cool.

[Letme]

6 minutes ago, Nas said:

Definitely. But if you buy one, don't go with the Hyper 212 EVO or it's other variants, Cryorig makes better value coolers, and if you feel like spending big bucks, buy something from the Dark Rock series.

 

1 minute ago, TVwazhere said:

I had assumed Stock cooler, as it should be enough for a non K variant of intel's coolers.

Yes, but only to temperatures. The chip will perform the same at 50ºC or 75ºC

 

i do not think i will spend extra money on this rig, especially that i do not even have a GPU still. i am thinking to buy new rig after Dec 2018 i assume with Coffee Lake for example. Or do you think that my setup still solid to buy a decent gpu?

 

 

 

 

 

[TVwazhere]

1 minute ago, Letme said:

i do not think i will spend extra money on this rig, especially that i do not even have a GPU still. i am thinking to buy new rig after Dec 2018 i assume with Coffee Lake for example. Or do you think that my setup still solid to buy a decent gpu?

The 4790 shouldnt be a bottleneck (meaning it would hold your card back from operating at it's best) to most GPU's, like the Nvidia GTX1060 6gb or AMD RX580 8gb. So you should be able to use it as a gaming CPU for a while  (I'm a 4790K owner and I havent found a need to upgrade my CPU from a gaming perspective)

[Ashleyyyy]

the 6gb of ram is going to be much more of a problem then that cpu.. 

 

24 minutes ago, Letme said:

and to be honest this is the cooler that came with G3250

that could be bad, if you are gaming and stuff make sure to monitor the temps to make sure it won't go too high. 

 

14 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

If you're on a budget, the 212 does a good job keeping an overclocked 4770K cool.

the 212 is fine in my opinion. i have one of those on one of the Xeon X5650's in my rig, and it does it's job fine. never goes above 60 degrees...  and it's mounted with zip-ties so not the best mounting hardware...

 

18 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Yes, but only to temperatures. The chip will perform the same at 50ºC or 75ºC

but 50ºC would make it last longer, and should be better for the components around the cpu as well. 

[TVwazhere]

3 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

but 50ºC would make it last longer, and should be better for the components around the cpu as well. 

The CPU is designed to operate under 84ºC, so the CPU itself will last as long as it's able to stay under that temperature range (there are original 1st gen i7's still going strong many years later)

 

Components around the CPU will get warm no matter what, even with a liquid cooler on it. 

[Letme]

14 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

The 4790 shouldnt be a bottleneck (meaning it would hold your card back from operating at it's best) to most GPU's, like the Nvidia GTX1060 6gb or AMD RX580 8gb. So you should be able to use it as a gaming CPU for a while  (I'm a 4790K owner and I havent found a need to upgrade my CPU from a gaming perspective)

mmm, like for how many? a year(s)? i think while jumping to new rig, might take the GPU with me then? what do you think?

[xentropa]

4790 on idle with the stock cooler will be around 45-55.  Under load, maybe 70-85.  Even with a 20 dollar air cooler, it should drop to 38-42 on idle because Intel CPU coolers are just trash.  

[Nas]

44 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

If you're on a budget, the 212 does a good job keeping an overclocked 4770K cool.

It does, but it's silly to get one when spending 5-10 dollars more can get you a better cooler.

[TARS]

Here are some examples of the temps I get with my 4790K within a mITX chassis utilizing a Noctua NH-D9L (full specs in profile)

 

From Idle to Gaming are listed

 

Room temp 24C

 

 

[TVwazhere]

1 hour ago, Letme said:

mmm, like for how many? a year(s)? i think while jumping to new rig, might take the GPU with me then? what do you think?

It's hard to say. Intel and AMD are finally starting to add more cores to their systems, which means eventually game developers will start utilizing some more of those cores in games. Right now most games usually require only 2-4 cores (not including hyper threading) with only some triple A titles using more than that like Battlefield. However, for 6 and 8 core gaming PC's to become "common" will take a few years as many people aernt upgrading just yet, so game developers wont start trying to support something not everyone has (SLI and crossfire is a good example)

[O9B0666]

I thaught my Temps were high I removed thermal paste re applied the tiniest dot and it improved 4-7 c worth a shot to try this. I guess I o/d'd the first go around. I still get wonky idle Temps 33-45 but at 100% load I haven't hit 80c yet with a 4.9 oc 

[Letme]

3 hours ago, TVwazhere said:

It's hard to say. Intel and AMD are finally starting to add more cores to their systems, which means eventually game developers will start utilizing some more of those cores in games. Right now most games usually require only 2-4 cores (not including hyper threading) with only some triple A titles using more than that like Battlefield. However, for 6 and 8 core gaming PC's to become "common" will take a few years as many people aernt upgrading just yet, so game developers wont start trying to support something not everyone has (SLI and crossfire is a good example)

True, i remember when AMD was betting on getting more cores long ago and still that did not happen like expected/predicted.

 

Like I said i might buy GPU then if the need to get a new rig was a must i will take it with me.

 

thanks for all the information.

[beersykins]

Did you put on fresh paste, or did you just re-use what was on there?

 

75C isn't too bad per others although I would expect that at 100% load at stock speed such as running the Intel XTU tool.

[Letme]

26 minutes ago, beersykins said:

Did you put on fresh paste, or did you just re-use what was on there?

 

75C isn't too bad per others although I would expect that at 100% load at stock speed such as running the Intel XTU tool.

i don't have thermal paste so i just fixed the fan on the existing one (Old).

 

and what actually is Intel XTU tool and how to check it?

[gbergeron]

7 hours ago, Letme said:

Hello Guys,

 

Yesterday i have replaced my lower CPU was G3250 with better one which is I7-4790 (non K), i am having a confuse about the Temp of CPU since the moment i placed the Newer CPU and heat somehow for what i am seeing is high!

 

the PC when idle will be have temp between 36~40 and by using it from goes 50~70 (not gaming) is this is normal or i have made something wrong with it? sometimes hit 75+.

 

i was not hitting 45 degree with the Pentium processor (G3250) even while using it, i think max degree was like 43

 

please refer for these snap shots of PC Specs and resources,

 

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1lteslxiw/

 

Kindly note that when i took the pics today i was opening intentionally many programs and making Scan with windows defender to test it out. and i do not have dedicated GPU.

 

Thanks,

 

those temp are fine