gtx 970 vs 1060 6gb?

[come on man]

970 has:

 

7.0 Gbps memory clock

4GB GDDR5,but it's 256 bit bus,therefore it has 224GB/s

 

1060 6GB has:

 

8 Gbps memory clock

6GB GDDR5,but it's 192 bit bus,it has 8*6*32/8=192Gb/s

 

Which GPU is better?The 1st has less memory,but it's faster.The second has more memory,but it's slower.I guess 1060 6GB is better for gaming,the 970 is better for everything else?Someone said it's better to have more memory and higher memory clock,but at the end the GTX 970 is faster,because it's a 256 bit bus

[i_build_nanosuits]

3 minutes ago, come on man said:

Which GPU is better?The 1st has less memory,but it's faster.The second has more memory,but it's slower.I guess 1060 6GB is better for gaming,the 970 is better for everything else?Someone said it's better to have more memory and higher memory clock,but at the end the GTX 970 is faster,because it's a 256 bit bus

no, the GTX 1060 is better at everything, the 1060 is about the same performance as the GTX 980.

Memory bandwidth doesn't mean much...it's just 1 stat amongst others.

[Alexalmighty502]

get the 1060 6gb its much faster

 

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/2577vs3639

[come on man]

2 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

no, the GTX 1060 is better at everything, the 1060 is slightly faster than the GTX 980.

okay,then that means the GB/s isn't the most important thing?

[Alexalmighty502]

1 minute ago, come on man said:

okay,then that means the GB/s isn't the most important thing?

no

[Morgan MLGman]

3 minutes ago, come on man said:

okay,then that means the GB/s isn't the most important thing?

No it's not. Look at an R9 290X, its memory bandwidth is 320GB/s - because of that a 290X performs quite well at higher resolutions but I'd still prefer a 1060 6GB overall due to multiple other reasons.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, come on man said:

okay,then that means the GB/s isn't the most important thing?

no it's not...the GPU itself, how many cuda cores, what generation of the architecture it is, the GPU core clockspeed etc...plenty of other things will affect the performance of a graphics card a lot more than memory bandwidht, which really is pretty much irrelevant.

[Overclock Gamer]

5 hours ago, come on man said:

970 has:

 

7.0 Gbps memory clock

4GB GDDR5,but it's 256 bit bus,therefore it has 224GB/s

 

1060 6GB has:

 

8 Gbps memory clock

6GB GDDR5,but it's 192 bit bus,it has 8*6*32/8=192Gb/s

 

Which GPU is better?The 1st has less memory,but it's faster.The second has more memory,but it's slower.I guess 1060 6GB is better for gaming,the 970 is better for everything else?Someone said it's better to have more memory and higher memory clock,but at the end the GTX 970 is faster,because it's a 256 bit bus

970 has 3.5 GB of gddr5 not 4gb gddr5

[Overclock Gamer]

5 hours ago, come on man said:

970 has:

 

7.0 Gbps memory clock

4GB GDDR5,but it's 256 bit bus,therefore it has 224GB/s

 

1060 6GB has:

 

8 Gbps memory clock

6GB GDDR5,but it's 192 bit bus,it has 8*6*32/8=192Gb/s

 

Which GPU is better?The 1st has less memory,but it's faster.The second has more memory,but it's slower.I guess 1060 6GB is better for gaming,the 970 is better for everything else?Someone said it's better to have more memory and higher memory clock,but at the end the GTX 970 is faster,because it's a 256 bit bus

Gtx 1060 is faster than gtx 970 ,Nvidia match the 1060 performances to a gtx 980  before lunch , which is faster than gtx 970  so it makes no sense gtx 970 is faster than 1060 and comparing them with memory bandwidth is different cos both 970 and 1060 use different gpu architecture 

[Overclock Gamer]

5 hours ago, come on man said:

okay,then that means the GB/s isn't the most important thing?

It matters if u want to run your games with ultra texture and at higher resolution like 2k 

[Overclock Gamer]

5 hours ago, Morgan MLGman said:

No it's not. Look at an R9 290X, its memory bandwidth is 320GB/s - because of that a 290X performs quite well at higher resolutions but I'd still prefer a 1060 6GB overall due to multiple other reasons.

I disagree with u the 1060 is faster than r9 290x at higher resolution like 2k to 4k cos it has Extra 2gb of vram which makes a huge difference when gaming at higher resolution . Unless the game is fully optimize for AMD GPUs like far cry. Gtx 1060 is faster even at 4k gaming thanks to it extra 2gb vram 

[Morgan MLGman]

5 minutes ago, Overclock Gamer said:

I disagree with u the 1060 is faster than r9 290x at higher resolution like 2k to 4k cos it has Extra 2gb of vram which makes a huge difference when gaming at higher resolution . Unless the game is fully optimize for AMD GPUs like far cry. Gtx 1060 is faster even at 4k gaming thanks to it extra 2gb vram 

I think you didn't exactly understand what I wrote. I said that the 290X has relatively high memory bandwidth, which makes it quite competitive at resolutions like 1440p. I never compared it to a GTX 1060 performance-wise, the 290X is like 3 years older. Though despite its age, it should perform like a 3GB 1060 on average and beat the 6GB one in some specific titles, while drawing more than double the power of course

17 minutes ago, Overclock Gamer said:

970 has 3.5 GB of gddr5 not 4gb gddr5

Wrong. It has 4GB of GDDR5, the last 512MB part is just a lot slower in terms of bandwidth.

[Overclock Gamer]

4 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

I think you didn't exactly understand what I wrote. I said that the 290X has relatively high memory bandwidth, which makes it quite competitive at resolutions like 1440p. I never compared it to a GTX 1060 performance-wise, the 290X is like 3 years older. Though despite its age, it should perform like a 3GB 1060 on average and beat the 6GB one in some specific titles, while drawing more than double the power of course

Wrong. It has 4GB of GDDR5, the last 512MB part is just a lot slower in terms of bandwidth.

 

4 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

I think you didn't exactly understand what I wrote. I said that the 290X has relatively high memory bandwidth, which makes it quite competitive at resolutions like 1440p. I never compared it to a GTX 1060 performance-wise, the 290X is like 3 years older. Though despite its age, it should perform like a 3GB 1060 on average and beat the 6GB one in some specific titles, while drawing more than double the power of course

Wrong. It has 4GB of GDDR5, the last 512MB part is just a lot slower in terms of bandwidth.

The 512mb is not gddr5 but a slower memory 

[Overclock Gamer]

1 minute ago, Overclock Gamer said:

 

The 512mb is not gddr5 but a slower memory technically gtx 970 has 3.5 GB of gddr5 memory not full 4gb of gddr5 like gtx 980 or 960 

[Morgan MLGman]

2 minutes ago, Overclock Gamer said:

The 512mb is not gddr5 but a slower memory 

 

Can you provide a source for that claim? It's definitely GDDR5, just wired differently for the last part due to disabled parts of the GPU chip.
Here's a more detailed info:
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-Discloses-Full-Memory-Structure-and-Limitations-GTX-970

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The most important part here is the memory system though, connected to the SMMs through a crossbar interface. That interface has 8 total ports to connect to collections of L2 cache and memory controllers, all of which are utilized in a GTX 980. With a GTX 970 though, only 7 of those ports are enabled, taking one of the combination L2 cache / ROP units along with it. However, the 32-bit memory controller segment remains.

 

Do not spread misinformation, research first GDDR5 is the memory type, it's still a GDDR5 chip on the PCB, just wired in a way that the bandwidth of it is low, which results in a loss of performance if it's used.

[Overclock Gamer]

13 minutes ago, Overclock Gamer said:

 

The 512mb is not gddr5 but a slower memory technically gtx 970 has 3.5 GB of gddr5 memory not full 4gb of gddr5 like gtx 980 or 960 

 

[overturnedv1]

6 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

no, the GTX 1060 is better at everything, the 1060 is about the same performance as the GTX 980.

Memory bandwidth doesn't mean much...it's just 1 stat amongst others.

1060 same performance as 980. Funny joke. 

 

970 crushes 1060 so just get it instead if theyre the same price

[Overclock Gamer]

1 minute ago, Overclock Gamer said:

15 minutes ago, Overclock Gamer said:

 

The 512mb is not gddr5 but a slower memory technically gtx 970 has 3.5 GB of gddr5 memory not full 4gb of gddr5 like gtx 980 or 960 

 

 

[Overclock Gamer]

2 minutes ago, overturnedv1 said:

1060 same performance as 980. Funny joke. 

 

970 crushes 1060 so just get it instead if theyre the same price

I wonder the game gtx 970 crushes gtx 1060 except for one game watch dogs 2 at ultra graphics but later the gtx 1060 became faster  thanks to improve drivers so I wonder and besides Nidia matched the gtx 1060 to gtx 980 so why that  most still believe gtx 1060 is slower than gtx 970 whiles the 980 is faster than 970 

[Morgan MLGman]

@Overclock Gamer And where does it say that it doesn't have 4GB of GDDR5? If your claim is true, then give me the name of the memory type for the last 512MB part. It has to be something, and modern GPUs only use GDDR5, GDDR5X, HBM/HBM2 or DDR4/DDR3 for lower-end models.

[Overclock Gamer]

2 minutes ago, Overclock Gamer said:

I wonder the game gtx 970 crushes gtx 1060 except for one game watch dogs 2 at ultra graphics but later the gtx 1060 became faster  thanks to improve drivers so I wonder and besides Nidia matched the gtx 1060 to gtx 980 so why that  most still believe gtx 1060 is slower than gtx 970 whiles the 980 is faster than 970 

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 hour ago, overturnedv1 said:

1060 same performance as 980. Funny joke. 

 

970 crushes 1060 so just get it instead if theyre the same price

what are you talking about?

Even the 3GB cut down GTX 1060 is noticeably faster than a GTX 970...the 6GB 1060 is as fast or faster than a GTX 980 depending on the game...go see benchmarks and reviews...

[overturnedv1]

3 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

what are you talking about?

Even the 3GB cut down GTX 1060 is noticeably faster than a GTX 970...the 6GB 1060 is as fast or faster than a GTX 980 depending on the game...go see benchmarks and reviews...

yes but besides the statistics and other crap the actually human performance for a computer is faster than the 1060

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, overturnedv1 said:

yes but besides the statistics and other crap the actually human performance for a computer is faster than the 1060

wait...what?!

 

[WkdPaul]

This nonsense lasted longer than it should have.

 

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