2700x or 2700?

[XiiXii808]

How much of a performance difference would there be in these chips? Could i overclock the 2700 to 4ghz and have it perform like a 2700x? Im upgrading from a i7 6700

[STRMfrmXMN]

Can I just ask what you want to do with an octacore CPU? A 6700 isn't a bad chip so I'd recommend evaluating if you need to first.

 

Second, yes, a 2700 at 4 GHz would be just as good as a 2700X at 4 GHz.

[Daniel644]

6 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Can I just ask what you want to do with an octacore CPU? A 6700 isn't a bad chip so I'd recommend evaluating if you need to first.

 

Second, yes, a 2700 at 4 GHz would be just as good as a 2700X at 4 GHz.

2 things off the top of my head, MINING and Video encoding that is CPU bound, more cores equals better.

 

honestly from what i've seen the auto boosting on the X chip does better then manually OCing it so you might be better off just spending the extra $30, if you have an intensive usecase scenario like Mining or Video Encoding you will eventually over the course of 5-10 years earn back the $30 in energy savings.

 

 

that said unless you just HAVE to have over 4 Ghz, the 1700 can be found as low as $200 which is a WAY BETTER price to performance.

[dcgreen2k]

Get the regular 2700 and overclock it; they'll perform the same.

 

I can definitely agree with what @Daniel644 said. Video editing with my 1600 is amazing compared to my other computers, and the Ryzen chips put out so little heat that they're really easy to cool even when overclocked.

 

[Princess Luna]

As mentioned go from an i7 6700 to the Ryzen 2700X is NOT an upgrade for gaming and general desktop usage... it'd be good have in mind why you want to upgraded.

 

Regardless I'd say that the extra cost on the X is not needed, just overclock the non-X.

[Majestic]

24 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Second, yes, a 2700 at 4 GHz would be just as good as a 2700X at 4 GHz.

But XFR is pretty good under the correct cooling, and clocking a 2700X to 4ghz flat would actually make it perform worse than out-of-the-box. 

[SpaceGhostC2C]

First, as others told you, make sure you need the core count, because otherwise it doesn't make sense to move from a 6700 to a Ryzen 2, or to anything really.

28 minutes ago, XiiXii808 said:

How much of a performance difference would there be in these chips? Could i overclock the 2700 to 4ghz and have it perform like a 2700x?

 

No, the 2700 at 4.0 will perform worse than a 2700x stock. It will perform the same as a 2700x OCed to 4.0, but a 4.0 2700x is worse than just leaving it as stock.

Contrary to what happened with Ryzen 1000 series, the way boost clocks work on Ryzen 2000 negates any value in overclocking the x chips at all, and in general makes the x CPUs a better value than the non-x as long as the price gap is not too big. Basically, with enough cooling (and the 2700x brings a better cooler than the 2700), your chip will boost to an all-core speed of roughly 4.0Ghz, perhaps slightly faster with an aftermarket cooler (hardly worth the money), while retaining the XFR2 boost for single-threaded tasks of 4.35Ghz (the 2-core boost is also higher, maybe 4.35, maybe 4.2, don't remember. But it's on the reviews). An overclocked chip to 4.0 will do 4.0 regardless to the number of cores used, so you will see a performance regression in anything that is not heavily multi-threaded.

 

So, while with Ryzen 1 going with the non-x was almost always the best option, with Ryzen 2, at least at MSRP, the 2700 is a bad purchase compared to the 2700x. The price difference is just not big enough compared to the performance difference and the cost of an aftermarket cooler to get the non-x speeds high enough (and quiet enough).