New build - Any components I ought to swap?

[KasperHJ]

Hi Guys,

Would very much like you inputs on the system below I have on my drawing board:

Mainboard - Asus H110i-PLUS

CPU - Intel i5-7500

GPU - Asus PH-GTX1050 TI 4G

RAM - Kingston 2 x 8GB DDR4 2133 MHz

Case - Silverstone SG06S-Lite

PSU - Silverstone SST-ST45SF-G

 

Purpose is everyday usage with surf, web, office package, stream of music, youtube, and a little bit of Cities Skylines gaming - not much, since I suck at it! - but not any other heavy games.

I've got all my data stored on a Qnap NAS so will only be putting a SSD for OS in the build.

 

DOUBTS:
- Should I go for Palit GTX 1050 ti KalmX instead to get a quiet system?

- If I want quiet, should I also go with the i5-7500-Tray, and a Noctua NH-L9X65 cooler?

- For my gaming needs could the build-in GPU enough so I wouldn't need a graphics card at all?

- Is there a Mini-ITX mainboard with 10Gb network available at all?

 

Looking forward in hearing your inputs...

 

/Kasper

[seba7661]

skylines is more cpu driven then gpu driven so you could go for a cheaper gpu and better cpu. and the onboard gpu is kinda shit. maybe go for a 1030 instead and a better cpu

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, KasperHJ said:

- Should I go for Palit GTX 1050 ti KalmX instead to get a quiet system?

- If I want quiet, should I also go with the i5-7500-Tray, and a Noctua NH-L9X65 cooler?

- For my gaming needs could the build-in GPU enough so I wouldn't need a graphics card at all?

- Is there a Mini-ITX mainboard with 10Gb network available at all?

1. You cant without using a bigger case with better airflow. The Silverstone case you chose has 2 problems: subpar cooling, and the fact that it doesnt have the space to hold the tall KalmX.

 

2. The cooler is a good choice, but the CPU is not. At this budget, get Ryzen 5 1400 with Gigabyte B350N motherboard instead, it's better if you can squeeze more for a 1600, but it's ok to leave it out if you cant afford it.

 

3. That in the Kaby Lake CPU (which I stress, you should not consider) is too weak, but if you choose to go to the Ryzen APU route, then you can with reduced graphical settings.

 

4. Dont rememeber one, but even if there is it will be stupidly expensive.

[KasperHJ]

2 hours ago, seba7661 said:

skylines is more cpu driven then gpu driven so you could go for a cheaper gpu and better cpu. and the onboard gpu is kinda shit. maybe go for a 1030 instead and a better cpu

Arh, I didn't know that Cities Skylines had that kind of "priority... thanks :-)

[KasperHJ]

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

1. You cant without using a bigger case with better airflow. The Silverstone case you chose has 2 problems: subpar cooling, and the fact that it doesnt have the space to hold the tall KalmX.

 

2. The cooler is a good choice, but the CPU is not. At this budget, get Ryzen 5 1400 with Gigabyte B350N motherboard instead, it's better if you can squeeze more for a 1600, but it's ok to leave it out if you cant afford it.

 

3. That in the Kaby Lake CPU (which I stress, you should not consider) is too weak, but if you choose to go to the Ryzen APU route, then you can with reduced graphical settings.

 

4. Dont rememeber one, but even if there is it will be stupidly expensive.

1. Darn! I think you're right, it's too high now that I checked up! Unfortunately the case is the only thing I have ordered already, so that would be a pain to switch it... I like the case for it's size and silver look, though...

 

2. Wow! didn't know that the CPU was in that category. The budget isn't THAT a determining factor, I don't mind spending a l ittle more for a better solution :-)   ... Had trouble finding the Gigabyte board. Only Asrock Fatal1ty popped up with the 350 chipset, though have found the Gigabyte now, so, stick with the Gigabyte one? You mention the 1600, see it also comes as a 1600X? On AMDs site the 2400G is mentioned (cheaper than the 1600X), or is the graphics in the 2400G not worth it?

 

3. Honestly, would I even need a graphics card at all if I swap to (any of) the Ryzen 5's?  ... Now I'm thinking I could use that PCIe-port for a 10Gb network card later down the line...?

 

Thanks for your suggestions :-)

[Jurrunio]

16 minutes ago, KasperHJ said:

2. Wow! didn't know that the CPU was in that category. The budget isn't THAT a determining factor, I don't mind spending a l ittle more for a better solution :-)   ... Had trouble finding the Gigabyte board. Only Asrock Fatal1ty popped up with the 350 chipset, though have found the Gigabyte now, so, stick with the Gigabyte one? You mention the 1600, see it also comes as a 1600X? On AMDs site the 2400G is mentioned (cheaper than the 1600X), or is the graphics in the 2400G not worth it?

 

3. Honestly, would I even need a graphics card at all if I swap to (any of) the Ryzen 5's?  ... Now I'm thinking I could use that PCIe-port for a 10Gb network card later down the line...?

2. 8th gen is out with 2 extra cores, so 7th gen isnt worth buying new anymore. 7th gen i5s are only as good as 8th gen i3s.

Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac is better than Gigabyte's AB350N Wifi, I just mentioned it to stay in the original price bracket.

1600x is just a factory overclocked 1600, but since you can overclock the 1600 anyway it doesnt make sense to buy the 1600x.

2400g only has 4 cores and 8 threads, rather than 1600's 6 cores 12 threads. You do sacrifice quite a lot for not using that PCIe slot.

 

3. Only Ryzen CPUs with G in the name has integrated graphics, others need a graphics card otherwise there wont be any display signal. Do you have 10Gbps data subscription? I myself would rather have the GPU power and use the 1Gbps network (though I only have 100Mbps subscription....)

[brob]

The four core i3-8100 is a touch more powerful than the i5-7500 and usually significantly less expensive. Since Intel has just introduced new Coffee Lake chipsets, less expensive motherboards, like the Asus ROG Strix H370-I, are starting to appear.

 

Corsair - SF 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply is a very good psu.

[KasperHJ]

5 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

2. 8th gen is out with 2 extra cores, so 7th gen isnt worth buying new anymore. 7th gen i5s are only as good as 8th gen i3s.

Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac is better than Gigabyte's AB350N Wifi, I just mentioned it to stay in the original price bracket.

1600x is just a factory overclocked 1600, but since you can overclock the 1600 anyway it doesnt make sense to buy the 1600x.

2400g only has 4 cores and 8 threads, rather than 1600's 6 cores 12 threads. You do sacrifice quite a lot for not using that PCIe slot.

 

3. Only Ryzen CPUs with G in the name has integrated graphics, others need a graphics card otherwise there wont be any display signal. Do you have 10Gbps data subscription? I myself would rather have the GPU power and use the 1Gbps network (though I only have 100Mbps subscription....)

... I've been off the hardware market for too long - I've been completely left behind! Great info about the cores and threads! :-D

Thanks for being observant about the price. It seems like the motherboard is slightly more expensive, though the CPU is cheaper, it'll even out in the end I imagine.

The Asus GTX1050 Ti is fairly well priced as well, so I'll probably stick with that in the PCIe port.

Regarding the network speed, no, I don't have that fast a connection out, but I have my Qnap NAS here internally so it would have been nice to get faster transfer speeds...

Thanks for your inputs!

[KasperHJ]

3 hours ago, brob said:

The four core i3-8100 is a touch more powerful than the i5-7500 and usually significantly less expensive. Since Intel has just introduced new Coffee Lake chipsets, less expensive motherboards, like the Asus ROG Strix H370-I, are starting to appear.

 

Corsair - SF 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply is a very good psu.

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That is actually a quite cheap processor - but is it better performing than the Ryzen 5 1600 suggested by Jurrunio? And which Mini ITX motherboard would you choose to go with it?

 

As I went with a case from Silverstone I chose one of their PSUs as well since I new it would fit! It's very similar to the Corsair, though the Corsair is about 10 USD cheaper - not a deal-breaker, but availability is dropping for the Silverstone... I'll keep it in mind... thanks :-)

[brob]

2 minutes ago, KasperHJ said:

That is actually a quite cheap processor - but is it better performing than the Ryzen 5 1600 suggested by Jurrunio? And which Mini ITX motherboard would you choose to go with it?

 

As I went with a case from Silverstone I chose one of their PSUs as well since I new it would fit! It's very similar to the Corsair, though the Corsair is about 10 USD cheaper - not a deal-breaker, but availability is dropping for the Silverstone... I'll keep it in mind... thanks :-)

If you want something at the same price point as the Ryzen 5 1600, consider the i5-8400 or possibly the new i5-8600. Given the described workload I expect that an i3-8100 would do a decent job. The Ryzen 5 and i5 cpu would offer excellent performance. All three have fairly similar performance with Intel being a little better in some things and Ryzen in others.

 

There is also the new i3-8300 cpu. Unfortunately there are no benchmarks yet. Although the specs suggest it should be slightly better than the i3-8100.

 

SFX psu have a standard width and height so they will fit any case designed for SFX psu.

[Jurrunio]

5 hours ago, KasperHJ said:

That is actually a quite cheap processor - but is it better performing than the Ryzen 5 1600 suggested by Jurrunio? And which Mini ITX motherboard would you choose to go with it?

i5-8400, 8500 and 8600 (talking about complex product lines...) the direct competitor to the Ryzen 5 1600, with better single core performance but worse multicore performance. Which is better depends on how well the game uses hyperthreading, though the Ryzen 5 doesnt catch up in single core performance even when overclocked. 4ghz is the max for Ryzen 1000 series, though Ryzen 2000 series will come in about 2-3 weeks and go slightly further.

 

RAM frequency also helps Ryzen performance more significantly than Intel CPUs, jumping from 2133Mhz to 2666MHz can yield about 5% extra performance, from 2666 to 3200 will give another 2%.... So try get 2666 kits or above, as long as the price increase is also slim. On the other hand, Intel CPUs doesnt gain noticeable performance from RAM frequency increase (non-Z chipsets wont allow running higher than 2666), so it's not a concern.

 

Your place might have different motherboard selections, so look out for H310/B360/H370 mITX motherboards and compare prices to Z370 miTX ones, all will work well with the 8th gen i5s. The H and B chipset boards are meant to be cheaper than Z chipsets, but since they are new, the prices dont reflect the difference in positioning yet.

[KasperHJ]

7 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

i5-8400, 8500 and 8600 (talking about complex product lines...) the direct competitor to the Ryzen 5 1600, with better single core performance but worse multicore performance. Which is better depends on how well the game uses hyperthreading, though the Ryzen 5 doesnt catch up in single core performance even when overclocked. 4ghz is the max for Ryzen 1000 series, though Ryzen 2000 series will come in about 2-3 weeks and go slightly further.

 

RAM frequency also helps Ryzen performance more significantly than Intel CPUs, jumping from 2133Mhz to 2666MHz can yield about 5% extra performance, from 2666 to 3200 will give another 2%.... So try get 2666 kits or above, as long as the price increase is also slim. On the other hand, Intel CPUs doesnt gain noticeable performance from RAM frequency increase (non-Z chipsets wont allow running higher than 2666), so it's not a concern.

 

Your place might have different motherboard selections, so look out for H310/B360/H370 mITX motherboards and compare prices to Z370 miTX ones, all will work well with the 8th gen i5s. The H and B chipset boards are meant to be cheaper than Z chipsets, but since they are new, the prices dont reflect the difference in positioning yet.

Thank you for your comprehensive explanation - this is very useful.

 

When doing a search here for mITX motherboards with the AM4 socket I only get these five options to choose from:

Biostar RACING X370GTN 5.X (127 USD)

Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming ITX/ac (140 USD)

Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming ITX/ac (191 USD)

Asus ROG Strix B350-I-Gaming (202 USD)

Asus ROG Strix X370-I-Gaming (237 USD)

 

So the Fatal1ty AB350 you recommended seem like a good choice-to-price board...

 

Regarding RAM it doesn't look like the price difference from 2133 to 2666 Mhz is noticable, so that 5% increase is worth it.

I've always liked Kingston RAM so did a search on their website for which module to match, looks like it's CL16 I should use... does that sound right? That'll be the 2 x 8GB Hyper Fury X then...

[Jurrunio]

42 minutes ago, KasperHJ said:

Thank you for your comprehensive explanation - this is very useful.

 

When doing a search here for mITX motherboards with the AM4 socket I only get these five options to choose from:

Biostar RACING X370GTN 5.X (127 USD)

Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming ITX/ac (140 USD)

Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming ITX/ac (191 USD)

Asus ROG Strix B350-I-Gaming (202 USD)

Asus ROG Strix X370-I-Gaming (237 USD)

 

So the Fatal1ty AB350 you recommended seem like a good choice-to-price board...

 

Regarding RAM it doesn't look like the price difference from 2133 to 2666 Mhz is noticable, so that 5% increase is worth it.

I've always liked Kingston RAM so did a search on their website for which module to match, looks like it's CL16 I should use... does that sound right? That'll be the 2 x 8GB Hyper Fury X then...

2666 cl16 does seem about right, but it will better if the RAM is in the motherboard's supported memory list. Ryzen has some compatibility issues with RAM because most kits are designed without testing with Ryzen since no one expected it to come this well back then

[KasperHJ]

5 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

2666 cl16 does seem about right, but it will better if the RAM is in the motherboard's supported memory list. Ryzen has some compatibility issues with RAM because most kits are designed without testing with Ryzen since no one expected it to come this well back then

That was quite a task I got myself into here! :-D ... The compatibility list on Asrock's site, and the Memory Search guide on Kingston's website didn't quite match!
I ended up with 2 x 8GB og Crucial Ballistix Tactical 2666 MHz CL16 sticks - and got all the other parts ordered as well :-D

 

Thank you for all your help! :-)

[KasperHJ]

On 05/04/2018 at 10:42 AM, Jurrunio said:

2666 cl16 does seem about right, but it will better if the RAM is in the motherboard's supported memory list. Ryzen has some compatibility issues with RAM because most kits are designed without testing with Ryzen since no one expected it to come this well back then

Hey Jurrunio... me again!
Just wanted to ask if you had an opinion about the Asus GFX 1050 Ti graphics card still would be optimal for the setup?

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, KasperHJ said:

Hey Jurrunio... me again!
Just wanted to ask if you had an opinion about the Asus GFX 1050 Ti graphics card still would be optimal for the setup?

Brand, or GPU?

 

The only thing going against Asus as a brand is the price, but that's the cost for customer service. EVGA is its only competitor here.

 

Both Intel 8400 and AMD 1600 are good for far better GPUs (1080ti in some games, even), it comes to whether buying a faster card is good value. Prices are dropping in the US, but I'm not so sure about thoose in Denmark.

[KasperHJ]

49 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Brand, or GPU?

 

The only thing going against Asus as a brand is the price, but that's the cost for customer service. EVGA is its only competitor here.

 

Both Intel 8400 and AMD 1600 are good for far better GPUs (1080ti in some games, even), it comes to whether buying a faster card is good value. Prices are dropping in the US, but I'm not so sure about thoose in Denmark.

I've always liked Asus as they for me have stood for quality, but I chose the 1050TI originally because it was recommended in a guide as a good card for the price (it's the third cheapest here in Denmark with that GPU) - and it 'matched' the Asus H110i-PLUS motherboard I originally had found for the i5 CPU...

 

But now I had doubts since I had swapped to an AMD system, so maybe I ought to find an AMD graphics card as well to get the best match?
Also I've got the option of good prices on monitors from Samsung as they don't suport G-sync as far as I know?

My need for a monster powerful graphics card isn't there I think, though I don't mind spending a little extra to get the right product.... :-)

.. If you're curious about the prices (1 USD = 6 DKK) for gear in general here in Denmark I can recommend www.edbpriser.dk - though in Danish we don't translate tech-words! :-D

 

... Just checked with gpuboss.com  ... seems like I need a RX570 to pass the 1050Ti in performance - but the Sapphire Pulse ITX Radeon RX 570 cost 150 USD more... is that an true alternative? And worth it?

[brob]

There is no benefit or penalty in using AMD gpu with AMD cpu. (That said, there can be a benefit matching AMD gpu with AMD apu.) Nvidia gpu work equally well with Intel and AMD cpu.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, KasperHJ said:

But now I had doubts since I had swapped to an AMD system, so maybe I ought to find an AMD graphics card as well to get the best match?

You don't have to. Nvidia cards dont perform worse or better when mounted on AMD system compared to Intel system, and the same holds true for AMD cards on different CPU platforms.

 

1 hour ago, KasperHJ said:

Also I've got the option of good prices on monitors from Samsung as they don't suport G-sync as far as I know?

You're fine without adaptive sync (both Freesync and Gsync are adaptive sync) monitors as long as you havent tried with one in fast paced games  High refresh rate and good panel are more important than adaptive sync.

 

1 hour ago, KasperHJ said:

... Just checked with gpuboss.com  ... seems like I need a RX570 to pass the 1050Ti in performance - but the Sapphire Pulse ITX Radeon RX 570 cost 150 USD more... is that an true alternative? And worth it?

1050ti <GTX 1060 3gb < (a small bit) RX 570 < RX 580 4gb < (tiny bit better) GTX 1060 6gb = RX 580 8GB.

 

I did see a Gigabyte RX 570 4gb, it costs nearly 50% more ($350) than the Asus 1050ti with about 30-40% extra performance, but none of that customer service and inferior customer service. The cheapest Asus or even Sapphire (nice customer service there as well) costs over $400 and that's stupid.

 

Another equally good value upgrade choice is the 1060 3gb, cheapest is a $307 Gigabyte model, cheapest Asus is $335. Dont get the cheapest EVGA since that one (the non-SC model) suffers from insufficient cooling.

 

Before someone starts the '3GB is not enough' rampage again, I have to say that it's not a deal breaker.

Its performance dont immediately drops into a bottomless pit when it ran out of VRAM, but instead manages to cling on when you have sufficient RAM for the graphics card to take some as its own video buffer. Of course it will still play badly if you push it too hard, so don't.

 

As for 1060 6gb and RX 580s, their performance just isnt that much better than the 570 and 1060 3gb to justify the extra price, so better leave them alone.

18 minutes ago, brob said:

That said, there can be a benefit matching AMD gpu with AMD apu.

Was in the past when you can run dual graphics mode, not so much with Ryzen APU.

[PurplDrank]

On 4/4/2018 at 4:31 AM, KasperHJ said:

Hi Guys,

Would very much like you inputs on the system below I have on my drawing board:

Mainboard - Asus H110i-PLUS

CPU - Intel i5-7500

GPU - Asus PH-GTX1050 TI 4G

RAM - Kingston 2 x 8GB DDR4 2133 MHz

Case - Silverstone SG06S-Lite

PSU - Silverstone SST-ST45SF-G

 

Purpose is everyday usage with surf, web, office package, stream of music, youtube, and a little bit of Cities Skylines gaming - not much, since I suck at it! - but not any other heavy games.

I've got all my data stored on a Qnap NAS so will only be putting a SSD for OS in the build.

 

DOUBTS:
- Should I go for Palit GTX 1050 ti KalmX instead to get a quiet system?

- If I want quiet, should I also go with the i5-7500-Tray, and a Noctua NH-L9X65 cooler?

- For my gaming needs could the build-in GPU enough so I wouldn't need a graphics card at all?

- Is there a Mini-ITX mainboard with 10Gb network available at all?

 

Looking forward in hearing your inputs...

 

/Kasper

just know that you may have to upgrade the GPU sooner than you think depending on what type of games you play. I would spend a little extra money and pick up a gtx 1060 or 1070

[KasperHJ]

17 hours ago, brob said:

There is no benefit or penalty in using AMD gpu with AMD cpu. (That said, there can be a benefit matching AMD gpu with AMD apu.) Nvidia gpu work equally well with Intel and AMD cpu.

OKay, that's reasuring to know, thanks .... would be stupid to make a faulty build from the beginning...!

[KasperHJ]

17 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

You don't have to. Nvidia cards dont perform worse or better when mounted on AMD system compared to Intel system, and the same holds true for AMD cards on different CPU platforms.

 

You're fine without adaptive sync (both Freesync and Gsync are adaptive sync) monitors as long as you havent tried with one in fast paced games  High refresh rate and good panel are more important than adaptive sync.

 

1050ti <GTX 1060 3gb < (a small bit) RX 570 < RX 580 4gb < (tiny bit better) GTX 1060 6gb = RX 580 8GB.

 

I did see a Gigabyte RX 570 4gb, it costs nearly 50% more ($350) than the Asus 1050ti with about 30-40% extra performance, but none of that customer service and inferior customer service. The cheapest Asus or even Sapphire (nice customer service there as well) costs over $400 and that's stupid.

 

Another equally good value upgrade choice is the 1060 3gb, cheapest is a $307 Gigabyte model, cheapest Asus is $335. Dont get the cheapest EVGA since that one (the non-SC model) suffers from insufficient cooling.

 

Before someone starts the '3GB is not enough' rampage again, I have to say that it's not a deal breaker.

Its performance dont immediately drops into a bottomless pit when it ran out of VRAM, but instead manages to cling on when you have sufficient RAM for the graphics card to take some as its own video buffer. Of course it will still play badly if you push it too hard, so don't.

 

As for 1060 6gb and RX 580s, their performance just isnt that much better than the 570 and 1060 3gb to justify the extra price, so better leave them alone.

Was in the past when you can run dual graphics mode, not so much with Ryzen APU.

Great to know they actually will work together - no need to cancel the order to find another graphics card then :-)

 

I'll scrap that thought of adaptive sync again then - and might up the budget on the monitor instead then ... Have been looking at the LC27HG70QQU but are now thinking about switching to the LC34HG70QQU - same model only larger... Though it seems like it runs at the same resolution, which in my book should result in lower PPI.... I'll have to do some more reading on these...

 

Yeah it doesn't seem like any of the pricedrops you mentioned have punched through here in DK/Europe yet ...

Checking gpuboss.com the 1060 does look quite a bit better than the 1050 Ti .... but the Gigabyte GTX 1060 WindForce OC 3GB is 130 USD more expensive! Looks as if the package with the graphics card is leaving the dealer today so gotta make my decision! :-D

 

I can't imagine I'll push any graphics card too hard with my usage ... having said that I've got no idea about whether 3 or 4 GB memory is "enough" - I suppose it'll come down to try it out and see if the 1050 Ti is "good enough", and if not then look for a 1060 or 1070...

[KasperHJ]

17 hours ago, PurplDrank said:

just know that you may have to upgrade the GPU sooner than you think depending on what type of games you play. I would spend a little extra money and pick up a gtx 1060 or 1070

Thanks for your input... It's a balancing act here - whether the 1050 Ti is "enough" or will begin caughing sooner than expected, versus buying something over the top and never get benefit of the extra spent...

[Jurrunio]

21 minutes ago, KasperHJ said:

I'll scrap that thought of adaptive sync again then - and might up the budget on the monitor instead then ... Have been looking at the LC27HG70QQU but are now thinking about switching to the LC34HG70QQU - same model only larger... Though it seems like it runs at the same resolution, which in my book should result in lower PPI.... I'll have to do some more reading on these...

My research shows the C27 to be 1080p (16:9) while C34 is 1440p ultrawide (21:9, 3440 x 1440). That's a LOT of extra pixels  and games wont run well in minimum settings under native resolution with a 1050ti, unless it's csgo, or minesweeper, that kind of thing. Even with a 1060 3gb (and hit the VRAM wall hard due to increased texture size as resolution goes up), you're not leaving minimum settings just yet.

 

28 minutes ago, KasperHJ said:

I can't imagine I'll push any graphics card too hard with my usage ... having said that I've got no idea about whether 3 or 4 GB memory is "enough" - I suppose it'll come down to try it out and see if the 1050 Ti is "good enough", and if not then look for a 1060 or 1070...

if you stay on 1080p, then 1050ti is enough, just dont expect cranking up the settings to very high or even ultra.

[KasperHJ]

3 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

My research shows the C27 to be 1080p (16:9) while C34 is 1440p ultrawide (21:9, 3440 x 1440). That's a LOT of extra pixels  and games wont run well in minimum settings under native resolution with a 1050ti, unless it's csgo, or minesweeper, that kind of thing. Even with a 1060 3gb (and hit the VRAM wall hard due to increased texture size as resolution goes up), you're not leaving minimum settings just yet.

 

if you stay on 1080p, then 1050ti is enough, just dont expect cranking up the settings to very high or even ultra.

Both the C27HG70 and the C32HG70 is 1440p and are 16:9 - it's the same monitor only larger...

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/32--chg70-gaming-monitor-with-quantum-dot-lc32hg70qqnxza/

The C34 you mention, is that the LC34F791 or the LC34H890? Those are awesome monitors, but yes it's not optimized for gaming...