Buying a computer/parts during the crypto boom

[PaPaNurgle]

With the current crypto mining popularized economy, parts are becoming overpriced. Buying a whole new PC seems to be about patience more then anything. My question is, how long will these parts be over priced and for how long should i wait?

[jtmoseley]

Just now, PaPaNurgle said:

With the current crypto mining popularized economy, parts are becoming overpriced. Buying a whole new PC seems to be about patience more then anything. My question is, how long will these parts be over priced and for how long should i wait?

Might go into the next year for all we know... No reason to think it will stop soon, so I would just buy something now and keep saving for better things. Wait as long as you want to, but personally, I think it is better to get a low but upgradable build, and just work your way up. Just get into gaming for now, don't worry about getting the BEST POSSIBLE PARTS EVER

[thelordofwarr]

I don't think you can really say how long, but maybe when a new generation e.g. of GPUs hit the market maybe a bunch of used old ones show up

[PaPaNurgle]

Just now, jtmoseley said:

Might go into the next year for all we know... No reason to think it will stop soon, so I would just buy something now and keep saving for better things. Wait as long as you want to, but personally, I think it is better to get a low but upgradable build, and just work your way up. Just get into gaming for now, don't worry about getting the BEST POSSIBLE PARTS EVER

sadly my "upgrade-able" pc is currently in a if ya upgrade this part you must upgrade this part unless you want bottlenecking

[jtmoseley]

Just now, PaPaNurgle said:

sadly my "upgrade-able" pc is currently in a if ya upgrade this part you must upgrade this part unless you want bottlenecking

How so? Are you running a DDR3 system? Motherboard issues? Explain

[PaPaNurgle]

very much what you said.

[TurbulentWinds]

17 minutes ago, PaPaNurgle said:

With the current crypto mining popularized economy, parts are becoming overpriced. Buying a whole new PC seems to be about patience more then anything. My question is, how long will these parts be over priced and for how long should i wait?

NVIADA is predicting the prices will continue to increase into Q3 2018 and level off. Not that they will go down at all after Q3.

[PaPaNurgle]

Just now, TurbulentWinds said:

NVIADA is predicting the prices will continue to increase into Q3 2018 and level off. Not that they will go down at all after Q3.

shiiiiiiiiiit.

[TheGlenlivet]

8 minutes ago, PaPaNurgle said:

very much what you said.

Motherboards and CPUs aren't bad, It's the RAM and GPUs.  keep an eye out for deals like this -

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZYPEHK/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=linus21-20

and jump on them when you see them.  There are lots of example of a deal coming up and being sold out by the time it makes this forum.

[PaPaNurgle]

Just now, TheGlenlivet said:

Motherboards and CPUs aren't bad, It's the RAM and GPUs.  keep an eye out for deals like this -

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZYPEHK/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=linus21-20

and jump on them when you see them.  There are lots of example of a deal coming up and being sold out by the time it makes this forum.

is there a bad side of using my DDR3 ram with a DDR4 Mobo?

[TheGlenlivet]

1 minute ago, PaPaNurgle said:

is there a bad side of using my DDR3 ram with a DDR4 Mobo?

Well, other than it won't work no .  You can't use DDR3 on Ryzen AM4 or Intel after Z170 (i think).

[knightslugger]

you have a better chance of guessing the future using a magic 8 ball than getting a solid answer from anyone.

 

all it would take is a country like china, or russia, or the US to outlaw the possession of cryptocurrency and the GPU market would be FLOODED with dirt cheap GPUs.

[PaPaNurgle]

if anyone can confirm that, i'd appreciate it.

Just now, TheGlenlivet said:

Well, other than it won't work no .  You can't use DDR3 on Ryzen AM4 or Intel after Z170 (i think).

 

[knightslugger]

Just now, PaPaNurgle said:

if anyone can confirm that, i'd appreciate it.

 

100% confirm. There are no DDR3 ryzen boards. DDR3 and DDR4 use incompatible ram slot styles. They physically cannot interchange.

 

There are certain skylake/kabylake boards that use DDR3, but coffee lake put the kibosh on DDR3.

[PaPaNurgle]

Just now, knightslugger said:

100% confirm. There are no DDR3 ryzen boards. DDR3 and DDR4 use incompatible ram slot styles. They physically cannot interchange.

so i'd have to buy new ram sticks too darn...

[knightslugger]

1 minute ago, PaPaNurgle said:

so i'd have to buy new ram sticks too darn...

yep. added a little info about z170 boards using DDR3 since skylake and kabylake i7's both support DDR3, but coffee lake (z370) is DDR4 only.

[PaPaNurgle]

8 minutes ago, TheGlenlivet said:

Motherboards and CPUs aren't bad, It's the RAM and GPUs.  keep an eye out for deals like this -

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZYPEHK/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=linus21-20

and jump on them when you see them.  There are lots of example of a deal coming up and being sold out by the time it makes this forum.

dont i need to upgrade my mobo to upgrade my CPU atm, and if i do that i'd need to replace my ram sticks as well right?

 

 

this is why i think i should probably just take my SSD's and just buy a new pc overall, what do you think i should do guys?

Edited February 27, 2018 by PaPaNurgle

[TheGlenlivet]

Just now, PaPaNurgle said:

so i'd have to buy new ram sticks too darn...

If you don't mind switching teams, the cheapest way to do this (i think) would be to buy a refirb prebuilt from Newegg or AMazon with a I5 that uses DDR3.  Transfer all the stuff (PSU, drives, etc.) from your old PC, buy a 1050TI or 1060 and boom, decent gaming rig, way better than Vishera could ever be.

[Doomed83]

2 minutes ago, PaPaNurgle said:

dont i need to upgrade my mobo to upgrade my CPU atm, and if i do that i'd need to replace my ram sticks as well right?

 

 

this is why i think i should probably just take my SSD's and just buy a new pc overall, what do you think i should do guys?

What is your budget and what are your uses/goals for a new machine?

[PaPaNurgle]

1 minute ago, TheGlenlivet said:

If you don't mind switching teams, the cheapest way to do this (i think) would be to buy a refirb prebuilt from Newegg or AMazon with a I5 that uses DDR3.  Transfer all the stuff (PSU, drives, etc.) from your old PC, buy a 1050TI or 1060 and boom, decent gaming rig, way better than Vishera could ever be.

i have no right with my current cash balance to choose a team lmfao. so you'd recommend buying a refurb that has a DDR4 mobo that is compatible with DDR3 swapping it all over and just upgrading my GPU ?

[PaPaNurgle]

Just now, Doomed83 said:

What is your budget and what are your uses/goals for a new machine?

my budget would be anywhere between 800-1200$ and i do everything, i stream/play games constantly/ do work/make videos etc

[Doomed83]

Just now, PaPaNurgle said:

my budget would be anywhere between 800-1200$ and i do everything, i stream/play games constantly/ do work/make videos etc

What games do you play?

what frame rates do you want?

what applications do you use?

[PaPaNurgle]

2 minutes ago, Doomed83 said:

What games do you play?

what frame rates do you want?

what applications do you use?

i play early access titles more or less recently, i do the occasional shooter but obsess over MMORPGS... as well as your occasional one offer like witcher 3 or w/e

i've grown accustom to 20-40fps but i know that's atrocious to some...

i also use OBS/Adobe premiere

[TheGlenlivet]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883159937&cm_re=dell_refirbished-_-83-159-937-_-Product

I7 and 8 GB of DDR3 with windows installed already and a PCI slot for a GPU.  It's not pretty, but it's cheap and capable.  

There are probably better ones out there.  This took me a couple minutes to find.

[PaPaNurgle]

1 minute ago, TheGlenlivet said:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883159937&cm_re=dell_refirbished-_-83-159-937-_-Product

I7 and 8 GB of DDR3 with windows installed already and a PCI slot for a GPU.  It's not pretty, but it's cheap and capable.  

There are probably better ones out there.  This took me a couple minutes to find.

how do i know if a PC is compatible with DDR3 and DDR4 as well as compatible with newer CPU's in the more current linup like ryze or w/e else.