Need help making a pc build for my dad.

[CooperMyers]

My dad wants to play video games with me. We already have the extra monitors and keyboards so all we need is the actual computer. He is looking into playing shooter games like PUBG. Can you guys build a gaming PC for around $800. You can go a little over if you have to. A few extra dollars is not a big deal for us. Just try to stay as close to $800 as you can. 

 

Thanks for the help!  

[Jurrunio]

specs of monitor?

[seon123]

Assuming you live in the US, and that you'll use rebates. Not sure how the RX 580 and 1060 6GB compare in PUBG. They cost about the same, and on average, they perform equally.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.48 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($95.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: *Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.88 @ Other World Computing) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card  ($254.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H21 Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $788.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-24 15:04 EST-0500

[CooperMyers]

10 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Assuming you live in the US, and that you'll use rebates. Not sure how the RX 580 and 1060 6GB compare in PUBG. They cost about the same, and on average, they perform equally.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.48 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($95.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: *Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.88 @ Other World Computing) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card  ($254.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H21 Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $788.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-24 15:04 EST-0500

I may be wrong but is that ram on the expensive side?  

 

Edit:  I just looked up ram prices and that looks good. 

[Thony]

2 minutes ago, CooperMyers said:

I may be wrong but is that ram on the expensive side?  

Thats the pricing of DDR4 and its high clock speed because ryzen really needs it. Cant get 8GB for $50 like u do with DDR3.

[seon123]

3 minutes ago, CooperMyers said:

I may be wrong but is that ram on the expensive side?  

A bit expensive, but RAM prices are really messed up. Getting slightly nicer RAM will make upgrades easier, and the higher frequency will improve the performance by a few %. And remember that a $20 difference in RAM price is just a 3,5% increase in the total price. 

[Energycore]

17 minutes ago, CooperMyers said:

My dad wants to play video games with me. We already have the extra monitors and keyboards so all we need is the actual computer. He is looking into playing shooter games like PUBG. Can you guys build a gaming PC for around $800. You can go a little over if you have to. A few extra dollars is not a big deal for us. Just try to stay as close to $800 as you can. 

 

Thanks for the help!  

Hell yeah let me give you somethin'

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($121.73 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($96.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: PNY - CS1311 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($125.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card  ($254.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $760.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-24 15:17 EST-0500

 

I'm not quite 100% on this build because the CPU is only 4 cores, no Hyperthreading. I do find it a good value at $120, even though you're forced to buy a motherboard at $90. Comes in just over $790 before mail-in rebates, you can buy a hard drive with the rebate money if you want though 480GB on an SSD is plenty of space for most gamers.

 

6 minutes ago, CooperMyers said:

I may be wrong but is that ram on the expensive side?  

Right now RAM prices are ass. $85 is the cheapest you'll find an 8GB kit for. It sucks but we'll have to deal with this for a while.

[CooperMyers]

15 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

specs of monitor?

Right now we have two spare monitors the Samsung S24E310 and the Samsung SyncMaster S24B150 

 

he said that he may upgrade them because they are only 24 inches. He said he would chip in a few hundred for a new monitor. 

 

[Energycore]

Just now, CooperMyers said:

Right now we have two spare monitors the Samsung S24E310 and the Samsung SyncMaster S24B150 

 

he said that he may upgrade them because they are only 24 inches. He said he would chip in a few hundred for a new monitor. 

 

24 inch is pretty wide for my taste, since these are 1080p you need not upgrade imo. If they're from the same series as my SyncMaster SMB2030N (19 inch), then they also got really nice viewing angles that you won't find out of some modern monitors.

[CooperMyers]

12 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Hell yeah let me give you somethin'

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($121.73 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($96.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: PNY - CS1311 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($125.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card  ($254.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $760.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-24 15:17 EST-0500

 

I'm not quite 100% on this build because the CPU is only 4 cores, no Hyperthreading. I do find it a good value at $120, even though you're forced to buy a motherboard at $90. Comes in just over $790 before mail-in rebates, you can buy a hard drive with the rebate money if you want though 480GB on an SSD is plenty of space for most gamers.

 

Right now RAM prices are ass. $85 is the cheapest you'll find an 8GB kit for. It sucks but we'll have to deal with this for a while.

Yea. The build looks nice but I just am slightly worried about the CPU aswell. That seems to be the most likely bottleneck of this PC

[seon123]

2 minutes ago, CooperMyers said:

Yea. The build looks nice but I just am slightly worried about the CPU aswell. That seems to be the most likely bottleneck of this PC

Coffee I3s are quad cores, like Kaby's I5s. Unless you play at something like 720p medium-low, the GPU should be the bottleneck. 

[Energycore]

Just now, CooperMyers said:

Yea. The build looks nice but I just am slightly worried about the CPU aswell. That seems to be the most likely bottleneck of this PC

I think for gaming it's going to be comparable to the Ryzen 5 but I haven't seen benchmark numbers and it'll depend on game. If PUBG uses more than 4 processing threads then it's a no brainer to go for the Ryzen.

 

Unfortunately there isn't a super cheap value option right now when it comes to CPUs, except maybe Ryzen 1400 which had problems with cache allocation so I don't like it.-

 

Here's a version with Ryzen 5

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.48 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: SanDisk - Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card  ($254.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $754.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-24 15:39 EST-0500

 

The only downside is you get 240GB of SSD instead, but it ends up better in performance. Again use the rebate money to add a hard drive later.

[Energycore]

2 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Coffee I3s are quad cores, like Kaby's I5s. Unless you play at something like 720p medium-low, the GPU should be the bottleneck. 

Lowering resolution won't tax the CPU more. Only increasing your refresh rate will

 

My problem with the i3-8100 at the moment is that there are no cheap motherboards. You don't want to pay $100 for the mobo when your CPU is $120, ew

[CooperMyers]

7 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Coffee I3s are quad cores, like Kaby's I5s. Unless you play at something like 720p medium-low, the GPU should be the bottleneck. 

Okay. That is good to know. 

[seon123]

5 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Lowering resolution won't tax the CPU more. Only increasing your refresh rate will

Yes, but since CPUs don't care about the resolution, and don't care about the graphics settings as much, it will allow the GPU to shove out more FPS. Thus moving the bottleneck to the CPU

[CooperMyers]

On 12/24/2017 at 3:05 PM, seon123 said:

Assuming you live in the US, and that you'll use rebates. Not sure how the RX 580 and 1060 6GB compare in PUBG. They cost about the same, and on average, they perform equally.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.48 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($95.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: *Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.88 @ Other World Computing) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card  ($254.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H21 Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $788.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-24 15:04 EST-0500

Hey. I really like this build and we were about to buy it but the parts increased in price to $900. Can you update some of the parts?

 

At least the ram dropped in price. 

[seon123]

7 minutes ago, CooperMyers said:

Hey. I really like this build and we were about to buy it but the parts increased in price to $900. Can you update some of the parts?

Here you go.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.39 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($87.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - BX300 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.88 @ Other World Computing) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($269.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H21 Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($21.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($32.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $799.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-26 21:28 EST-0500

[CooperMyers]

14 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Here you go.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.39 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($87.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - BX300 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.88 @ Other World Computing) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($269.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H21 Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($21.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($32.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $799.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-26 21:28 EST-0500

That case seems to be a different price. https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16811133248?ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker%2c+LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566

 

it says like $43 or $21.99 after a $20 rebate card. I have no idea what that means. 

 

Actually the powersuply also is $20 more expensive unless I use a rebate card or something. It may be all of newegg?

[seon123]

1 minute ago, CooperMyers said:

That case seems to be a different price. https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16811133248?ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker%2c+LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566

 

it says like $43 or $21.99 after a $20 rebate card. I have no idea what that means. 

Means you fill a form, send it to the manufacturer, and get $20. The form should be on the website.