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Help decide please: Should I pull the trigger on a 6700K used bundle?

Gdourado

Hello, how are you?

I am having a hard time making a decision here.

I currently have a 3700k on an old Asus P8Z68V-Gen3 board with 16gb (2x8) Gskill Ripjaws X 2400 CL11 ram.

My 3770k is not the greatest overclocker so I run it at 4.5 1.2v daily.

My gpu is a 1080 Ti clocked ad 2000 core and my display is 1080p 144hz G-Sync.

 

Someone I know locally is selling a bundle with:

6700k

Gigabyte Z170X Ultra Gaming Motherboard

32gb (2x16) Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 2400 CL16 RAM.

 

Everything is boxed and in great looked after condition.

Now, the board is not the greatest, and the VRM worries me a bit being 4+3 phases.

But then again, the Asus Hero for example uses 8 cpu phases, but they are doubled, so I don't know how much better a board like that would actually be, and if to  have some proper VRM I wouldn't have to end up spending over 200 on a board alone.

 

Now, what is getting me thinking is the price.

He will let me have the bundle for 400 Euros.

I am in Portugal, so EU prices.

Anyway, I think it might be a sweet deal.

GIven current RAM prices, 400 for a 6700k, z170 board and 32 gigs of DDR4 seems sweet.

But is it a good deal?

Should I take it?

It also worries be the RAM, being only 2400 since I would must use it for gaming.

 

Sites like digital foundry already showed that RAM speeds matter.

The ram is 2400 at 1.2v.

Would I be able to clock it to 2800 or 3000 at 1.35v?

 

Also, how much of a bottleneck would 2400 ram on a 6700k actually be?

 

I am thinking about getting it, then try an sell my 3770k with board and ram.

If I could get 300 for it, the upgrade would cost me 100.

Good deal?

Should I take it?

 

Also, 8700k is really nice, but it's 400 the CPU alone. So currently it is not for me.

 

What are your thoughts?

 

Cheers!

 

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No, dont get it. Stil being 4 cores with hyperthreading, it's not much better than your 3770k (which is a nice overclocker for it's result).

 

There are far better options among 8th gen. 8600k is much cheaper but can still squeeze everything your 1080ti has got. 8400 is a good buy as well, far faster than your 3770k (some website says it can reach 3.8GHz on all cores with turbo enabled). Waiting for B360 mobo for 8400 might be even better. In fact next year the supply for 8th gen will increase so all of them will be cheaper.

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€400 almost seems to good to be true. I see Haswell kits with 8GB of RAM go for more than that. 

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16GB of RAM is like 200-250€ now.

 

So just the RAM is worth 90% of that.

Then again i7 6700k won't bring any insane performance gain.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3770K/3502vs1317

 

About 20% performance gain.

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Go for it man.

If you are willing to selling that 6700K and mobo off and getting a newer coffeelake chip will even make you some profiit.

RAM prices are INSANE at the moment, so € 400 for 32GB's  and a CPU/Mobo? I'd do it. In Belgium I'd pay € 350 for the RAM ALONE!

Just make sure it isn't too good to be true, if the parts end up not working .. you are kinda screwed.

 

If they do work, by all means this is a deal you do NOT see often

When the PC is acting up haunted,

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2 minutes ago, Sfekke said:

Go for it man.

If you are willing to selling that 6700K and mobo off and getting a newer coffeelake chip will even make you some profiit.

RAM prices are INSANE at the moment, so € 400 for 32GB's  and a CPU/Mobo? I'd do it. In Belgium I'd pay € 350 for the RAM ALONE!

Just make sure it isn't too good to be true, if the parts end up not working .. you are kinda screwed.

 

If they do work, by all means this is a deal you do NOT see often

That's not bad idea. Keep the RAM and buy i5 8600k + motherboard instead.

Or maybe also sell 16GB of RAM if you don't need 32.

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Is your CPU holding you back?

 

If yes, sure go for it, if not, then don't.

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News said that RAM production is increasing, so if you are upgrading next year then RAM should be cheaper then.

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Just now, asus killer said:

the ram is ddr3, you forgot to mention that.

My ram is DDR3 2400.

The ram in the bundle beeing sold is dd4 2400.

 

Cheers!

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Yes, the price is sweet especially with current RAM prices.

What is holding me back is that it is only 2400 ram.

For gaming I don't need the 32 gigs, 16 would be fine.

I guess I would prefer 16  gigs of 3200 ram than 32 gigs of 2400 ram.

 

But I can always sell the 32 gigs at a profit and get 16 of faster ram.

I just don't know if there is currently high demand for 32 gig kits here in Portugal.

 

Cheers!

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2 minutes ago, Gdourado said:

My ram is DDR3 2400.

The ram in the bundle beeing sold is dd4 2400.

 

Cheers!

you should look better at the olx. it's still cheap, but hey the seller isn't that stupid. B|

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37 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

That's not bad idea. Keep the RAM and buy i5 8600k + motherboard instead.

Or maybe also sell 16GB of RAM if you don't need 32.

If he just games, sell that 16GB to make some money.

Gamers rarely use more then 16GB, not saying you cannot keep the 32GB.

I'd do this even though I run a 4790K which is pretty good. (If I got this deal)

Buy the bundle.

Sell it all except the RAM.

Get a Ryzen or Coffee Lake CPU & Motherboard.

You'd end up breaking about even, selling these parts (if you sell 16GB) would net you about $ 400 (Depending on how much you ask)

And be happy :) 

 

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38 minutes ago, Gdourado said:

I just don't know if there is currently high demand for 32 gig kits here in Portugal.

 

Cheers!

I think you could sell them for a pretty decent price.

 

Looking at Spain and Germany prices on PCPP 2x16gb kits start at a whopping €300. You could probably sell your kit for €200-€250.

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I did it.
Picked up the bundle just now.
I will set it up tomorrow and see what it can do.
If the memory can go to at least 2800 with reasonable timmings, I'll keep it.
If not, I might advertise the 32gb kit to see how much I can sell it for.

I will also list my 3770k setup tomorrow and see how that goes.

In regard to the new setup, due to the chipset, audio drivers, and such, should I do a clean install of windows 10? Or is it not necessary at all?

Cheers

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9 hours ago, Gdourado said:

I did it.
Picked up the bundle just now.
I will set it up tomorrow and see what it can do.
If the memory can go to at least 2800 with reasonable timmings, I'll keep it.
If not, I might advertise the 32gb kit to see how much I can sell it for.

I will also list my 3770k setup tomorrow and see how that goes.

In regard to the new setup, due to the chipset, audio drivers, and such, should I do a clean install of windows 10? Or is it not necessary at all?

Cheers

Probably not a bad idea to get a fresh install going.

It could work but might not be 100% stable or cause long term issue's.

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