Friend wants to build a new gaming machine, need part advice.

[t33to]

He just needs a new cpu and motherboard. He doesn't want to overclock and it must be Intel and not a Gigabyte product (he's been burned by them before).

 

I was thinking the i5-something-non-k and just some generic asus motherboard. Any suggestions?

 

His budget is $500CAD max.

 

Extra Info: He's switching from an r7 1700, so he already has DDR4.

[Nite-Ninja]

This really depends on his budget and a few factors; like right now its pretty expensive to get budget GPU's (like the RX series from AMD), and RAM is really expensive. If he has a nice kit of DDR3 RAM on hand, might be more cost effective to use a 4th generation CPU like the 4790K (or the i5 equivalent) on a Z97 motherboard.

 

If cost isn't an issue, the 7th gen Kaby Lake i5's will be great, and theres tons of options for customizing.

 

I'm sure if you drop in a budget, people will be more than happy to throw some part picker ideas your way.

[t33to]

1 minute ago, Nite-Ninja said:

This really depends on his budget and a few factors; like right now its pretty expensive to get budget GPU's (like the RX series from AMD), and RAM is really expensive. If he has a nice kit of DDR3 RAM on hand, might be more cost effective to use a 4th generation CPU like the 4790K (or the i5 equivalent) on a Z97 motherboard.

 

If cost isn't an issue, the 7th gen Kaby Lake i5's will be great, and theres tons of options for customizing.

 

I'm sure if you drop in a budget, people will be more than happy to throw some part picker ideas your way.

He only needs a CPU and Motheboard. He already has everything else. He's switching back from AMD. So he already has ram and what not.

 

Is Kaby Lake socket 1151?

 

Also his budget is $500CAD, I updated the main post but you might have seen the post before I did that.

[Badger906]

id probably go with a ryzen 5 1400 over a core i5, of course cost is a factor, but in the UK the 1400 is a fair bit cheaper

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, t33to said:

He only needs a CPU and Motheboard. He already has everything else. He's switching back from AMD. So he already has ram and what not.

 

Is Kaby Lake socket 1151?

Does your friend have DDR4 RAM?

1 minute ago, Badger906 said:

id probably go with a ryzen 5 1400 over a core i5, of course cost is a factor, but in the UK the 1400 is a fair bit cheaper

That would be such a horrible choice, plus he said he wants Intel.

[t33to]

1 minute ago, Badger906 said:

id probably go with a ryzen 5 1400 over a core i5, of course cost is a factor, but in the UK the 1400 is a fair bit cheaper

It must be Intel.

[t33to]

Just now, dizmo said:

Does your friend have DDR4 RAM?

That would be such a horrible choice, plus he said he wants Intel.

Yes, he's switching back from a r7 1700.

[dizmo]

Just now, t33to said:

Yes, he's switching back from a r7 1700.

Gotcha. Well, since he doesn't want to overclock, I'd say i5 8400 and whatever motherboard comes on sale during Black Friday.

[seon123]

He has RAM? Is it DDR3? Because that won't work on Skylake/Ryzen or newer. 

The 8400 and and SLI Plus should cost under that price. 

[t33to]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Gotcha. Well, since he doesn't want to overclock, I'd say i5 8400 and whatever motherboard comes on sale during Black Friday.

Wouldn't the higher clock of say... i5-7600 be better for gaming?

[maartendc]

9 minutes ago, t33to said:

He just needs a new cpu and motherboard. He doesn't want to overclock and it must be Intel and not a Gigabyte product (he's been burned by them before).

 

I was thinking the i5-something-non-k and just some generic asus motherboard. Any suggestions?

 

His budget is $500CAD max.

 

Extra Info: He's switching from an r7 1700, so he already has DDR4.

If he doesnt need super high end or doesnt' want to overclock, I would suggest waiting until early next year for the H and B series motherboards to come out for coffee lake. Right now, only the Z chipsets are available, so the motherboards are really expensive.

 

If he wants to overclock and wants high-end, the i7 8700K is a solid choice. i5 8400 is solid too, 6 cores.

[t33to]

2 minutes ago, seon123 said:

He has RAM? Is it DDR3? Because that won't work on Skylake/Ryzen or newer. 

The 8400 and and SLI Plus should cost under that price. 

Yes, I updated the main post. He's switching back from an r7 1700.

[Badger906]

1 minute ago, t33to said:

Yes, he's switching back from a r7 1700.

wait.. why is he doing this? difference in gaming performance will be slim, multi core yes intel has it pipped, but multi thread it will destroy an i5

[t33to]

Just now, Badger906 said:

wait.. why is he doing this? difference in gaming performance will be slim, multi core yes intel has it pipped, but multi thread it will destroy an i5

Because his motherboard had zero day issues but he's not very technical, so by the time he opened a support ticket it was no longer a free fix. So he's just burned out on AMD and wants to get back to what he knows will work. There was lots of hubbub about Ryzen and special ram needs and yatta yatta. He probably should have waited for Ryzen to mature a bit before jumping on the band wagon.

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, t33to said:

Wouldn't the higher clock of say... i5-7600 be better for gaming?

Nope.

 

If clock speed is a worry the i3 8100 has a high clock speed. Plus more cores will likely be beneficial down the line.

1 minute ago, maartendc said:

If he doesnt need super high end or doesnt' want to overclock, I would suggest waiting until early next year for the H and B series motherboards to come out for coffee lake. Right now, only the Z chipsets are available, so the motherboards are really expensive.

 

If he wants to overclock and wants high-end, the i7 8700K is a solid choice. i5 8400 is solid too, 6 cores.

 

Eh, it's not that much of a difference. Maybe $50, and with Black Friday literally days away the cost increase is basically eliminated. Plus the H/B boards are rumored to have reduced RAM speed support.

[Princess Luna]

get an i5 8600k on an Asus TUF z370, good enough.

[t33to]

10 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

get an i5 8600k on an Asus TUF z370, good enough.

That's definitely over his budget at the moment.

[Printer Merchant]

If all he needs is a CPU and motherboard on a $500 budget he could go with a 7700k (~$320) and an Asus Strix (~$190).

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VKx9TW/intel-core-i7-7700k-42ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i77700k

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2Phj4D/asus-strix-z270-e-gaming-atx-lga1151-motherboard-strix-z270-e-gaming

[t33to]

16 minutes ago, Printer Merchant said:

If all he needs is a CPU and motherboard on a $500 budget he could go with a 7700k (~$320) and an Asus Strix (~$190).

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VKx9TW/intel-core-i7-7700k-42ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i77700k

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2Phj4D/asus-strix-z270-e-gaming-atx-lga1151-motherboard-strix-z270-e-gaming

He won't overclock it so there's not much point in him getting that. $500 is his max too, I'm sure he'd prefer to spend less. I'll suggest this to him anyhow though. Thanks!

[davyre89]

1 hour ago, t33to said:

He won't overclock it so there's not much point in him getting that. $500 is his max too, I'm sure he'd prefer to spend less. I'll suggest this to him anyhow though. Thanks!

If he won't overclock, then it won't be justifiable for him to switch over to locked Intel processor on a Z370 series motherboard for minimal performance gains while paying a lot more. I'd say stick with 1700.

2 hours ago, t33to said:

That's definitely over his budget at the moment.

Another option is to sell his 1700 and motherboard, get the cash and switch.

[Guest]

13 hours ago, t33to said:

Yes, he's switching back from a r7 1700.

I will take the R7 1700 if he doesnt want it....

[t33to]

On 11/17/2017 at 3:06 AM, MrAndyGets said:

I will take the R7 1700 if he doesnt want it....

It's going to me! Along with his rx480.

[xg32]

On 11/16/2017 at 1:57 PM, t33to said:

He just needs a new cpu and motherboard. He doesn't want to overclock and it must be Intel and not a Gigabyte product (he's been burned by them before).

 

I was thinking the i5-something-non-k and just some generic asus motherboard. Any suggestions?

 

His budget is $500CAD max.

 

Extra Info: He's switching from an r7 1700, so he already has DDR4.

i7-8700+any z370 board based on price