i3 8100 vs i5 4460

[sirbonneville]

I'm thinking about making the jump. How much of a performance increase do you think I will see? Also does the i3 8100 support 1600mhz ddr3? 

[Princess Luna]

It won't be much of an upgrade, you're going from 4c/4t to 4c/4t... and no it does not support DDR3 memory only DDR4, you're better off waiting another year for the 10nm incoming processors.

[PCGuy_5960]

It's not really an upgrade, if you want to upgrade your CPU right now, save up for an i5-8400 or Ryzen 5 1600, or just get a used 4790(K) or 4770(K)

[sirbonneville]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

It won't be much of an upgrade, you're going from 4c/4t to 4c/4t... and no it does not support DDR3 memory only DDR4, you're better off waiting another year for the 10nm incoming processors.

But it performs better than i5 7400 and matches the i5 7500. Obviously the i5 7400/7500 are way better than my i5 4460. So in theory it should be better, no? 

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, sirbonneville said:

Obviously the i5 7400/7500 are way better than my i5 4460.

The thing is they really don't beat your 4460 all that badly, what graphics card do you own right now?

Beside it'd cost you the same/cheaper to get an i7 4790 and then have much more power than the i3 8100 by all means while retaining your current DDR3 ram and motherboard as pointed out by @PCGuy_5960.

[sirbonneville]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

The thing is they really don't beat your 4460 all that badly, what graphics card do you own right now?

Beside it'd cost you the same/cheaper to get an i7 4790 and then have much more power than the i3 8100 by all means while retaining your current DDR3 ram and motherboard as pointed out by @PCGuy_5960.

8gb rx 480.

 

All the 4790k's I see are 250 used though, as opposed to 135 new

[Princess Luna]

Just now, sirbonneville said:

All the 4790k's I see are 250 used though, as opposed to 135 new

That is because it is a superior processor.

 

2 minutes ago, sirbonneville said:

8gb rx 480.

I mean this is not the most demanding graphics card at all, I doubt that changing the processor will do any change on your gaming performance as I'm pretty sure the RX 480 is working on its full potential or at least near it.

[sirbonneville]

Something I just realized is that the i5 4790k is also the same socket as my i5 4460, meaning I won't need to buy a new motherboard. Also good point about using my same ram. I have 12gb but I'd go to 16. How much better is a 4790k versus the i5 4460 for gaming? 

[dizmo]

2 minutes ago, sirbonneville said:

8gb rx 480.

 

All the 4790k's I see are 250 used though, as opposed to 135 new

You're not adding the cost of RAM and a motherboard, which currently are $110 at the minimum.

 

Are you playing on a 1080p60 monitor?

[sirbonneville]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

That is because it is a superior processor.

 

I mean this is not the most demanding graphics card at all, I doubt that changing the processor will do any change on your gaming performance as I'm pretty sure the RX 480 is working on its full potential or at least near it.

I don't think so. My CPU doesn't even meet the minimum requirements for Bf1, so I'm sure an upgrade is due. Same for a lot of games. 

[Princess Luna]

Just now, sirbonneville said:

I don't think so. My CPU doesn't even meet the minimum requirements for Bf1, so I'm sure an upgrade is due. Same for a lot of games. 

well, just to be 100% mind clear you should DDU in safe mode, reinstall the latest Radeon available driver fresh new. Get MSi afterburner and Heaven benchmark, see first if card is reaching 99% usage fine, if it is do the overclocking method of +10 core clock until crashes while running Heaven(try at least 5 minutes of running), then save the profile on last safe OC, then do the same with memory overclocking.

 

Once complete you'll have an already pretty stable OC for gaming what is what you do, go and fire up the games you usually do while monitoring both CPU and GPU usages on MSi Afterburner if in games your GPU is around 85% or higher usage most of the time then upgrading CPU will do pretty much no difference.

 

What you can do is ensure you have a clean malware free Windows and close every thing you don't use software side when you go game.

[sirbonneville]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

well, just to be 100% mind clear you should DDU in safe mode, reinstall the latest Radeon available driver fresh new. Get MSi afterburner and Heaven benchmark, see first if card is reaching 99% usage fine, if it is do the overclocking method of +10 core clock until crashes while running Heaven(try at least 5 minutes of running), then save the profile on last safe OC, then do the same with memory overclocking.

 

Once complete you'll have an already pretty stable OC for gaming what is what you do, go and fire up the games you usually do while monitoring both CPU and GPU usages on MSi Afterburner if in games your GPU is around 85% or higher usage most of the time then upgrading CPU will do pretty much no difference.

 

What you can do is ensure you have a clean malware free Windows and close every thing you don't use software side when you go game.

How do i monitor gpu/cpu usage with afterburner? I'm already using it. 

[sirbonneville]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202275 Also this is my gpu exactly. Do you know what the safest OC on both core + memory is for this particular model of Rx 480? AN OC that's already been found out and proven to be stable?