i7 8700 vs 8700k

[PcCAT]

Hi guys

How are you? 

 

Noob here

My question is 

Are there any reasons to get the k version if I'm not planning to mess with over clocking ever.  

 

And what's exactly is the benifit/difference of over clocking over the turbo function that gets single and all core up to about 4.3-4.7 ghz

 

No gaming for now,  mostly non professional premiere photoshop etc... 

 

http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_8700k-763-vs-intel_core_i7_8700-764

[Aidanlockett1]

1 minute ago, PcCAT said:

Hi guys

How are you? 

 

Noob here

My question is 

Are there any reasons to get the k version if I'm not planning to mess with over clocking ever.  

 

And what's exactly is the benifit/difference of over clocking over the turbo function that gets single and all core up to about 4.3-4.7 ghz

 

No gaming for now,  mostly non professional premiere photoshop etc... 

 

http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_8700k-763-vs-intel_core_i7_8700-764

besides future overclocking and a little bit of higher clocks, you gain nothing really

8700- 3.2 to 4.6

8700k- 3.7 to 4.7

.1 ghz isnt anything if you donjt wanna oc and save cash

[dogetorhue]

5 minutes ago, Aidanlockett1 said:

besides future overclocking and a little bit of higher clocks, you gain nothing really

8700- 3.2 to 4.6

8700k- 3.7 to 4.7

.1 ghz isnt anything if you donjt wanna oc and save cash

I mean some people can push the 8700k to 5.3GHZ so it is quite a big improvement if you do OC

 

However if you don't do any OC, it's perfectly fine to go non-k

 

[Aidanlockett1]

Just now, dogetorhue said:

I mean some people can push the 8700k to 5.3GHZ so it is quite a big improvement if you do OC

he says he dosen't want to and its a good way to save a few bucks

[dogetorhue]

Just now, Aidanlockett1 said:

he says he dosen't want to and its a good way to save a few bucks

 

1 minute ago, dogetorhue said:

However if you don't do any OC, it's perfectly fine to go non-k

 

[DailyProcrastinator]

Just now, PcCAT said:

Hi guys

How are you? 

 

Noob here

My question is 

Are there any reasons to get the k version if I'm not planning to mess with over clocking ever.  

 

And what's exactly is the benifit/difference of over clocking over the turbo function that gets single and all core up to about 4.3-4.7 ghz

 

No gaming for now,  mostly non professional premiere photoshop etc... 

 

http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_8700k-763-vs-intel_core_i7_8700-764

Plain and simple a non-overclocked i7-8700k will perform the exact same as the i7-8700. If you overclock the i7-8700k you can see decent performance gains (probably 5% in certain programs that utilize the CPU's full power), but this means you will need to invest in a Z370 motherboard and higher-end cooling. 

 

If you don't intend to OC then get the i7-8700, get a cheaper B350 motherboard (when they become available as they are not yet released), and a mid-range air cooler like the Cryorig H7 or the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. That alone would probably save you over $120.

 

Now this all being said all 6 core CoffeeLake CPU's are basically not in stock anywhere so expect to wait a few months to get one. I am on a waitlist for an i7-8700k and was told to wait anywhere from 2-4 months...

[dogetorhue]

1 minute ago, JM21 said:

I am on a waitlist for an i7-8700k and was told to wait anywhere from 2-4 months...

 glad i didn't go for one of those

[Aidanlockett1]

1 minute ago, JM21 said:

Plain and simple a non-overclocked i7-8700k will perform the exact same as the i7-8700. If you overclock the i7-8700k you can see decent performance gains (probably 5% in certain programs that utilize the CPU's full power), but this means you will need to invest in a Z370 motherboard and higher-end cooling. 

 

If you don't intend to OC then get the i7-8700, get a cheaper B350 motherboard (when they become available as they are not yet released), and a mid-range air cooler like the Cryorig H7 or the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. That alone would probably save you over $120.

 

Now this all being said all 6 core CoffeeLake CPU's are basically not in stock anywhere so expect to wait a few months to get one. I am on a waitlist for an i7-8700k and was told to wait anywhere from 2-4 months...

Honestly, a matx b350m, 8700, and stock cooler will save you hellla money compared to z370 the k and a good cooler

[Streetguru]

21 minutes ago, PcCAT said:

No gaming for now,  mostly non professional premiere photoshop etc...

You should just save money and get an R5 1600/X in that case, it'll do the job just fine, and it'll still do AAA games just fine.

Are you building a new PC? If so what budget/country and what's your monitor set up?

[PcCAT]

Great info, very helpful. 

 

I'm from Israel so we do have them in stock where i checked as far as i know. 

 

I'm not really against OC but i dont have the knowledge, time and will to mess with it for now

 

I guess I'll go for the 8700 ?

 

 

[PcCAT]

1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

You should just save money and get an R5 1600/X in that case, it'll do the job just fine, and it'll still do AAA games just fine.

Are you building a new PC? If so what budget/country and what's your monitor set up?

Yes I'm building a pc

Added the specs above, before the change to 8700. 

Im from israel, the budget about 1000-1200usd

Just one 27 1440p monitor 

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, PcCAT said:

Yes I'm building a pc

Added the specs above, before the change to 8700. 

Im from israel, the budget about 1000-1200usd

Just one 27 1440p monitor 

Ryzen gets you a tier better GPU from the money saved, which is going to be fine for 60hz gaming....did you already but the PC then?

Here's a parts like but I have no idea where you  buy stuff from or how the pricing translate.

 

if an RX 580 8GB is the same as a 1060 6GB go for that if you don't want a higher end GPU

 

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Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8GB Video Card  ($469.99 @ Amazon)
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Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[gbergeron]

1 hour ago, PcCAT said:

Hi guys

How are you? 

 

Noob here

My question is 

Are there any reasons to get the k version if I'm not planning to mess with over clocking ever.  

 

And what's exactly is the benifit/difference of over clocking over the turbo function that gets single and all core up to about 4.3-4.7 ghz

 

No gaming for now,  mostly non professional premiere photoshop etc... 

 

http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_8700k-763-vs-intel_core_i7_8700-764

I would buy the K version even if you don't OC

 

3 reasons :

 

1 - higher clock stock

2 - possibility to OC in 3-5 years or when needed

3 - Better resell value, some people will look for that K to have an OC'able CPU

[dizmo]

Do you really need it for photo editing? I doubt it. I'd buy an i5 8600 and put the rest into more RAM, where it'll actually be useful.

[PcCAT]

10 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Do you really need it for photo editing? I doubt it. I'd buy an i5 8600 and put the rest into more RAM, where it'll actually be useful.

Mostly video in premiere but also photoshop lightroom etc

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, PcCAT said:

Mostly video in premiere but also photoshop lightroom etc

Check out the 8600k benchmarks. It might perform just as well, can't remember but it was close, and that chip is much cheaper.