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IT DESTOYRED MY F ING FANS!!

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There was a short that the SCP of the PSU didn't detect, and this cause the PSU to continued to supply power to it until it burned out.

To simulate this, PCGH had shorted a molex connector, and you would see it deliver a large amount of power through the cables and until it burns. It's in German, so you probably won't understand it (same with I) ; however, you could see what is happening (starts around 20 seconds in).

 

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Panorama-Thema-233992/News/PCGH-in-Gefahr-Video-Spektakulaere-Rauchexplosion-bei-Netzteilkurzschluss-819840/

 

This issue doesn't exactly happen often, but it is often associated with single rail vs multi-rail power supplies as shown here: http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3990

 

"Short circuit protection only works if there's minimal to no resistance in the short (like two wires touching or a hot lead touching a ground like the chassis wall, etc.) If the short occurs on a PCB, in a motor, etc. the resistance in this circuit will typically NOT trip short circuit protection. What does happen is the short essentially creates a load. Without an OCP the load just increases and increases until the wire heats up and the insulation melts off and there's a molten pile of flaming plastic at the bottom of the chassis. This is why rails are split up and "capped off" in most power supplies; there is a safety concern."

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today my new fan controller arived installed it.. display didn't work change slot on PSU display workes fine but when i turned my PC off and hooked my fans up it and turned it on again IT EXPLODED! ALL MY FANS ARE MELTED AND I DON'T KNOW IF MY PC STILL WORK! 

 

I'm so Fing pissed of right now!!

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You should have not run it at such a high RPMs. Also pics or it didn't happen.

Quote me to get a reply!

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Did you plug them incorrectly?

Jup just with 3 pin connector there wasn't any other way to plug them in 

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well, blame the fan controller manufacturer and get yourself some money to replace them.

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PICS!!!

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 ALL MY FANS ARE MELTED

 

wut? this is literately impossible stop trolling or post pics. 

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PICS

 

 

 

 

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wut? this is literately impossible stop trolling or post pics. 

 

 

pics or it didn't happen

 

 

PICS!!!

It doesn't show on the outside and melted maybe a little to much but the thing that happend was: Turned it on fans didn't spin.. BOEM! *allot of smoke comming from the fans* 

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Which fan controller is this? 

Also pics, defo want to see pics

It was the scythe kaze master pro 5.25

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It was the scythe kaze master pro 5.25

bother CS, Scythe is a fairly reputable company so they might be nice about it. 

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It doesn't show on the outside

So open it up.....

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So open it up.....

They will think i F'd with it and i loos my money.. 

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It doesn't show on the outside and melted maybe a little to much but the thing that happend was: Turned it on fans didn't spin.. BOEM! *allot of smoke comming from the fans* 

This makes no sense at all! Every PC runs on like 3 different voltages +3.3 +5 -12v and +12 there is no way to over volt your fans. Which all fans run on 12V. The ONLY way this could even possible happen would be some how ground got swapped with -12V thus giving the fans a total of 24V but I really really really really doubt that happened. 

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This makes no sense at all! Every PC runs on like 3 different voltages +3.3 +5 -12v and +12 there is no way to over volt your fans. The ONLY way this could even possible happen would be some how ground got swapped with -12V thus giving the fans a total of 24V but I really really really really doubt that happened. 

I don't know what happened... I plugged in everything correctly and it still blew up. i searched a bit and found out that other people have these problems to (on Amazon)

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This makes no sense at all! Every PC runs on like 3 different voltages +3.3 +5 -12v and +12 there is no way to over volt your fans. Which all fans run on 12V. The ONLY way this could even possible happen would be some how ground got swapped with -12V thus giving the fans a total of 24V but I really really really really doubt that happened. 

ive seen a computer fan put on 18.9 volts and it was working perfectly fine.. granted it wasnt bolted in and was connected to a psu that they would have in science labs it was just floating around like a mini helicopter..

the fans still should have run for a little bit on 24v, but the bearings etc would get fucked and start heating up pretty quickly

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It was the scythe kaze master pro 5.25

Ive the Kaze Master 2, so far it has worked well, you sure you had plugged everything properly?

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It doesn't show on the outside and melted maybe a little to much but the thing that happend was: Turned it on fans didn't spin.. BOEM! *allot of smoke comming from the fans* 

That explanation actually helps someone to understand what happened.  The fan controller probably burnt out the fan motors with voltage that was too high.  Most likely you just had a bad controler.  See if there is a warranty on the controller that might cover this sort of damage.  (I doubt a warranty would cover it, but maybe)

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That explanation actually helps someone to understand what happened.  The fan controller probably burnt out the fan motors with voltage that was too high.  Most likely you just had a bad controler.  See if there is a warranty on the controller that might cover this sort of damage.  (I doubt a warranty would cover it, but maybe)

Well here in the Netherlands we have a law that demands that retailers sell good and reliable products.. so i think i will get my money back because this sure as hell wasn't good and reliable! 

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Hi guys!

 

I've checked everything in my system apparently the power cable melted!  (If you don't know what i'm talking about, i'm talking about my earlier post i made where i raged that my fans have blown up).

 

Sorry i can't post pictures they are larger than 2 MB for some reason..

 

But the weird think is a have a really good PSU and i was just connected with same type of cable i connect everything with.. I don't know the name but is is from my PSU to Molex connector. 

 

 

What the hell happened? I'm not an expert but i know that cables are not supposed to melt within 2 seconds of usage! 

 

 

 

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Well here in the Netherlands we have a law that demands that retailers sell good and reliable products.. so i think i will get my money back because this sure as hell wasn't good and reliable! 

Good luck with that.

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There was a short that the SCP of the PSU didn't detect, and this cause the PSU to continued to supply power to it until it burned out.

To simulate this, PCGH had shorted a molex connector, and you would see it deliver a large amount of power through the cables and until it burns. It's in German, so you probably won't understand it (same with I) ; however, you could see what is happening (starts around 20 seconds in).

 

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Panorama-Thema-233992/News/PCGH-in-Gefahr-Video-Spektakulaere-Rauchexplosion-bei-Netzteilkurzschluss-819840/

 

This issue doesn't exactly happen often, but it is often associated with single rail vs multi-rail power supplies as shown here: http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3990

 

"Short circuit protection only works if there's minimal to no resistance in the short (like two wires touching or a hot lead touching a ground like the chassis wall, etc.) If the short occurs on a PCB, in a motor, etc. the resistance in this circuit will typically NOT trip short circuit protection. What does happen is the short essentially creates a load. Without an OCP the load just increases and increases until the wire heats up and the insulation melts off and there's a molten pile of flaming plastic at the bottom of the chassis. This is why rails are split up and "capped off" in most power supplies; there is a safety concern."

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