General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

I mean, a SUPERIOR motherboard may fix your x58 woes, failing that i’d Probably buy it from you when I haven’t just bought a cpu cooler

Superior BOIS yes. At least assuming it's the same BIOS as the Rampage III Formula I started with. 

Hardware wise the only board I have worse is my X58 Micro. All the others are competitors for the Rampage III Extreme or out of its league. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Superior BOIS

X99 BOIS > X58 BOIS

[GrockleTD]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Superior BOIS yes. At least assuming it's the same BIOS as the Rampage III Formula I started with. 

Hardware wise the only board I have worse is my X58 Micro. All the others are competitors for the Rampage III Extreme or out of its league. 

Rampage iii extreme = sabertooth?

[bimmerman]

Speaking of Bad Decision Dinosaur....

 

someone save me from myself and buy this plz. SR-2 for $325.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-Classified-SR-2-Motherboard-in-Original-Box-w-Accessories-270-WS-W555-A2/153812329091?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225074%26meid%3D31194bea59f241afae46968d4ac6e65f%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dlo%26sd%3D114093999352%26itm%3D153812329091%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Afa7d5620-4846-11ea-9e37-74dbd1808b97|parentrq%3A16a74b5c1700aca47751ed74ffea50ee|iid%3A1

 

So tempted. But then need a $500 PSU, $300 case to fit the BigBoi, $lots in water cooling ("need"), $70 in CPU, $ram, plus a bunch of GPUs to do 4 gamer 1 tower, and then deal with EVGA's notoriously broken virtualization support.

 

Please, please buy it so I don't. I want to yolo it but my brain is telling me to try not being dumb. Especially when, objectively, could just swap out my R5 for the R9 and party with all the cores and no PCIe lanes that way.

[Zando_]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

X99 BOIS > X58 BOIS

What if both?

If I get my hands on some X79 and X299 then my ascension to modern Intel godhood will be complete!

I believe there were prior X chipsets but for the pre-on CPU IMC days and such. 

 

Just now, GrockleTD said:

Rampage iii extreme = sabertooth?

R3E > Sabertooth. R3F > Sabertooth as well AFAIK. Sabertooth boards are usually solid, but Rampage ones are the flagship line. The R3F is excellent, the R3E is the highest tier board ASUS created for the X58 chipset AFAIK. 

My X58 Classy SLI 3x would be an R3E competitor, and the Classy 4-Way is the big version of that, and then the SR-2 - being a dual socket OCable Intel 5520 board - is in its own league entirely. 

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, bimmerman said:

Speaking of Bad Decision Dinosaur....

 

someone save me from myself and buy this plz. SR-2 for $325.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-Classified-SR-2-Motherboard-in-Original-Box-w-Accessories-270-WS-W555-A2/153812329091?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225074%26meid%3D31194bea59f241afae46968d4ac6e65f%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dlo%26sd%3D114093999352%26itm%3D153812329091%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Afa7d5620-4846-11ea-9e37-74dbd1808b97|parentrq%3A16a74b5c1700aca47751ed74ffea50ee|iid%3A1

 

So tempted. But then need a $500 PSU, $300 case to fit the BigBoi, $lots in water cooling ("need"), $70 in CPU, $ram, plus a bunch of GPUs to do 4 gamer 1 tower, and then deal with EVGA's notoriously broken virtualization support.

 

Please, please buy it so I don't. I want to yolo it but my brain is telling me to try not being dumb.

d e w i t 

I gotta get out my SR-2 sometime again reeeeeee. Need to actually get a case for it, but I'm looking at cases for my SLI 4-way too. 

I did get the $500 (well, $420 now) PSU for only $180 though, 1600W T2 brand new off an EVGA sale on the tail end of the mining craze (T2s were hella popular among miners apparently, I assume it was overstock) though. I don't know of any good alternatives that are reasonably priced.

We could even be WC bros, that's something I've got to get for my SR-2 if I get it running again (I do have the chipset/VRM blocks for it already tho). 

[GrockleTD]

6 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

What if both?

If I get my hands on some X79 and X299 then my ascension to modern Intel godhood will be complete!

I believe there were prior X chipsets but for the pre-on CPU IMC days and such. 

 

R3E > Sabertooth. R3F > Sabertooth as well AFAIK. Sabertooth boards are usually solid, but Rampage ones are the flagship line. The R3F is excellent, the R3E is the highest tier board ASUS created for the X58 chipset AFAIK. 

My X58 Classy SLI 3x would be an R3E competitor, and the Classy 4-Way is the big version of that, and then the SR-2 - being a dual socket OCable Intel 5520 board - is in its own league entirely. 

Still, it wouldn’t hurt to see if EVGA is doing a funky BIOS (although could be spectre and meltdown related) and again, I could be pretty easily convinced to buy it from you at cost. (There is of course the gamble that it doesn’t work, but eh. Yolo.) I just realized that I am doing a terrible job of talking you down from buying

 

edit; also when I was talking to him I learned that he is likely to accept 30 us

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

Still, it wouldn’t hurt to see if EVGA is doing a funky BIOS (although could be spectre and meltdown related) and again, I could be pretty easily convinced to buy it from you at cost. (There is of course the gamble that it doesn’t work, but eh. Yolo.)

I haven't updated them since I had stuff behaving on them tho so maybe it's my own intelligence that degraded.

Spectre/Meltdown don't affect clocks that I've seen. Just performance in OS. 

 

3 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

I just realized that I am doing a terrible job of talking you down from buying

*insert perhaps cow I'm too lazy to google again*

 

EDIT:

[bimmerman]

2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

d e w i t 

I gotta get out my SR-2 sometime again reeeeeee. Need to actually get a case for it, but I'm looking at cases for my SLI 4-way too. 

I did get the $500 (well, $420 now) PSU for only $180 though, 1600W T2 brand new off an EVGA sale on the tail end of the mining craze (T2s were hella popular among miners apparently, I assume it was overstock) though. I don't know of any good alternatives that are reasonably priced.

We could even be WC bros, that's something I've got to get for my SR-2 if I get it running again (I do have the chipset/VRM blocks for it already tho). 

Bad devil on my shoulder, bad!

 

Ha yea, I kinda want one just to tinker with. I also...might want to buy your WC stuff if you don't want it. If I buy the SR2. Which I shouldn't. But I wanna.

 

There are a couple of the T2s on ebay for reasonable prices, but a used PSU kinda weirds me out. The Corsair 1600 also is a smidge shorter, which could come in handy for cases.

 

not like I've been researching or anything...........I should just yolo and make an offer.

[GrockleTD]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

*insert perhaps cow I'm too lazy to google again*

 

Dont forget to read the edit, 45 us shipped is a dummy thicc deal still

[bimmerman]

Also, re: RE3 Extreme....https://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-Rampage-III-Extreme-Mobo-w-i7-960-12Gb-Corsair-Dominator-Ram/153811037264?hash=item23cfda2c50:g:ctEAAOSw10FeLpIi

 

 

[GrockleTD]

1 minute ago, bimmerman said:

Bad devil on my shoulder, bad!

We are all the devil on each other’s shoulder in this thread

[Zando_]

Just now, bimmerman said:

Bad devil on my shoulder, bad!

 

Ha yea, I kinda want one just to tinker with. I also...might want to buy your WC stuff if you don't want it. If I buy the SR2. Which I shouldn't. But I wanna.

 

There are a couple of the T2s on ebay for reasonable prices, but a used PSU kinda weirds me out. The Corsair 1600 also is a smidge shorter, which could come in handy for cases.

 

not like I've been researching or anything...........I should just yolo and make an offer.

If you do have the free cash, hell yeah. Even to just wall mount it lol, they're impressive looking boards. 

Given I main a WCed rig and the blocks I have are black acetal (my faves) chances are I wouldn't sell unless I decide I'll never actually get the SR-2 going (given my current track record for actually completing anything that wouldn't be too surprising).

WC hardware being expensive AF since I don't feel comfortable going for cheapo/knockoff stuff is another addition to that argument tho. My current loop is around $775 by my calculations, including only what's in the rig
 

1 minute ago, GrockleTD said:

We are all the devil on each other’s shoulder in this thread

Enthusiasts rly do be like that. IIRC @Damascus is still struggling with whether to keep his 6950X when a newer CPU would be both cheaper (especially given that 6950Xs still sell for a shit ton) and easier to stuff in a tiny case and easier to cool...

But muh enthusiasm bro

 

Similar to how my current rig sits at around $2600 with a 5960X and RVII. Preeeeeetty sure I could fit a 9900K and 2080 Ti in that budget if I bought new . 

[bimmerman]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

If you do have the free cash, hell yeah. Even to just wall mount it lol, they're impressive looking boards. 

Given I main a WCed rig and the blocks I have are black acetal (my faves) chances are I wouldn't sell unless I decide I'll never actually get the SR-2 going (given my current track record for actually completing anything that wouldn't be too surprising).

WC hardware being expensive AF since I don't feel comfortable going for cheapo/knockoff stuff is another addition to that argument tho. My current loop is around $775 by my calculations, including only what's in the rig
 

Enthusiasts rly do be like that. IIRC @Damascus is still struggling with whether to keep his 6950X when a newer CPU would be both cheaper (especially given that 6950Xs still sell for a shit ton) and easier to stuff in a tiny case and easier to cool...

But muh enthusiasm bro

 

 

Similar to how my current rig sits at around $2600 with a 5960X and RVII. Preeeeeetty sure I could fit a 9900K and 2080 Ti in that budget if I bought new . 

Yea....I just sent a best offer for the SR-2. We'll see if seller takes it. Didn't @WhisperingKnickers also have SR-2 WC parts?

 

RE: Enthusiast enabling...oh man, in my car life it's a thing. The first autox hit is free....then come 'wanna try these tires?' then before you know it you have a truck and trailer and have made your car useless except going for around corners really ridiculously fast. All while your buddy is going 'hey man, how about some CAMS'

[Zando_]

Just now, bimmerman said:

Yea....I just sent a best offer for the SR-2. We'll see if seller takes it. Didn't @WhisperingKnickers also have SR-2 WC parts?

He did.
that's where I got mine.

 

IIRC he's been looking at getting new stuff though, I don't know if he'd be down to sell his SR-2 or not? May be worth an ask. 
 

1 minute ago, bimmerman said:

RE: Enthusiast enabling...oh man, in my car life it's a thing. The first autox hit is free....then come 'wanna try these tires?' then before you know it you have a truck and trailer and have made your car useless except going for around corners really ridiculously fast. All while your buddy is going 'hey man, how about some CAMS'

Lmao, I've so far succeeded in not doing much all with my truck, thanks to 1) not being able to afford both that and PCs (probably for the best) and 2) I do actually quite like it stock, it mostly needs a refresh since it's an 18 year old vehicle at this point. Oh and I need to get back into cycling - both since I used to love that, and for my health - this spring/summer. Have you seen how expensive that shit will get though? Eyes what are IIRC $300+ rims...

 

[GrockleTD]

2 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

Yea....I just sent a best offer for the SR-2. We'll see if seller takes it. Didn't @WhisperingKnickers also have SR-2 WC parts?

 

RE: Enthusiast enabling...oh man, in my car life it's a thing. The first autox hit is free....then come 'wanna try these tires?' then before you know it you have a truck and trailer and have made your car useless except going for around corners really ridiculously fast. All while your buddy is going 'hey man, how about some CAMS'

Hey! It’s not wasteful, I just need MOAR for folding@home / space engineers dedicated server / file storage!

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, GrockleTD said:

Hey! It’s not wasteful, I just need MOAR for folding@home / space engineers dedicated server / file storage!

And I need moar rigs sitting around my already cluttered place because I can't use all of them at once but they're too power hungry to run any compute stuff 24/7

 

[GrockleTD]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

And I need moar rigs sitting around my already cluttered place because I can't use all of them at once but they're too power hungry to run any compute stuff 24/7

 

Yes! Personally wish I hadn’t missed so much work lately, otherwise i’d Buy this sabertooth myself

[bimmerman]

7 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

He did.
that's where I got mine.

 

IIRC he's been looking at getting new stuff though, I don't know if he'd be down to sell his SR-2 or not? May be worth an ask. 
 

Lmao, I've so far succeeded in not doing much all with my truck, thanks to 1) not being able to afford both that and PCs (probably for the best) and 2) I do actually quite like it stock, it mostly needs a refresh since it's an 18 year old vehicle at this point. Oh and I need to get back into cycling - both since I used to love that, and for my health - this spring/summer. Have you seen how expensive that shit will get though? Eyes what are IIRC $300+ rims...

 

Ahhhh gotcha! We'll see if I get the board before I try to convince you to sell haha.

 

Yea, cycling....looking at an ebike to make my commute not take so long and to not guzzle all the gas with the street car. Jeeeeezus nice ones are $$$. I love my road bike but 2hrs of riding to work and back kinda kills the day.

[bimmerman]

7 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

Hey! It’s not wasteful, I just need MOAR for folding@home / space engineers dedicated server / file storage!

SR-2 for HTPC? Guys? Guys?

[GrockleTD]

Just now, bimmerman said:

Ahhhh gotcha! We'll see if I get the board before I try to convince you to sell haha.

 

Yea, cycling....looking at an ebike to make my commute not take so long and to not guzzle all the gas with the street car. Jeeeeezus nice ones are $$$

I wish I had SR-2 money, but alas I am simply a taco slinger

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

SR-2 for HTPC? Guys? Guys?

HPTX mobo for an HTPC, makes sense. They have 3 of the same letters!

And yeah ofc it's gotta be watercooled for silence, don't want a noisy HPTX HTPC. 

[GrockleTD]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

HPTX mobo for an HTPC, makes sense. They have 3 of the same letters!

And yeah ofc it's gotta be watercooled for silence, don't want a noisy HPTX HTPC. 

This build requires a case from HP; HP HPTX HTPC

[Zando_]

Just now, GrockleTD said:

This build requires a case from HP; HP HPTX HTPC

Does HP make HP HPTX HTPC cases? 

You could get this for $145: https://www.quietpcusa.com/Cubitek-HPTX-ICE-Computer-Case-P923.aspx

Then have an HPTX ICE HPTX HTPC

[GrockleTD]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Does HP make HP HPTX HTPC cases? 

I was thinking heavily modified z800 workstation case