Advice for a Ryzen 5 1600 and 1080 build.

[Gazebo]

I have 2 builds which has a price difference of $100, one of them is 1080p 144Hz and the other one is 1440p 60Hz.

Questions

• Should I upgrade to a 650W PSU or is 550W good enough?
• 1080p @ 144Hz or 1440p @ 60Hz?
• Would you change anything in either of the builds to make it sightly better or save some money? 

Questions you might have for me

• Wait for Coffee Lake?
  • I haven't read much about the rumors, I won't be getting some of the big ticket items till mid November (CPU and GPU)
• How much is your budget?
  • Around $2100 CAD 
• Are you going to be over clocking?
  • Probably to about 3.8GHz with the stock cooler  

#1 1080p 144HZ GTX 1080 Ryzen 5 1600

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($259.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($164.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($74.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($729.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Memory Express) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($108.35 @ DirectCanada) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($47.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM  120mm Fans  ($34.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Monitor: Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($259.95 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $2020.72
 

 

#2 1440p 60Hz GTX 1080 Ryzen 5 1600

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($259.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($164.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($74.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($729.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Memory Express) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($108.35 @ DirectCanada) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($47.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM  120mm Fans  ($34.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Monitor: Acer - G257HU smidpx 25.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor  ($353.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Total: $2114.75

 

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

the ram's overpriced, try this instead:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/DHPzK8/team-vulcan-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-tlgd416g3000hc16cdc01

much better ssd for the same price:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/KXkwrH/crucial-mx300-275gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct275mx300ssd4

that's alot of money for a B350 board. try this:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/fPDzK8/asus-prime-b350-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-b350-plus

[TVwazhere]

550W is enough

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

the ram's overpriced, try this instead:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/DHPzK8/team-vulcan-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-tlgd416g3000hc16cdc01

much better ssd for the same price:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/KXkwrH/crucial-mx300-275gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct275mx300ssd4

that's alot of money for a B350 board. try this:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/fPDzK8/asus-prime-b350-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-b350-plus

I pretty much agree with the RAM and SSD, but I'd keep the strix board. Overall better quality VRM's for OC'ing from what I'm told.

[seon123]

Coffee Lake specs and prices are out.

Since you won't buy until November, I would suggest waiting for reviews. Planning specifics already is a bit silly.

550W is fine, even overclocked. 

144 Hz Vs 60 Hz depends on how competitively you game. 

Assuming you'll get the 1600, you can get a cheaper motherboard, like the B350 Prime Plus. 

Ryzen benefits from faster RAM, so get a 2800 MHz kit at least. 

The SL308 should cost about the same as the SSD Plus, and be better. 

Get a better case instead of case fans. 2 is enough. LTT has a video on the subject

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, TVwazhere said:

550W is enough

I pretty much agree with the RAM and SSD, but I'd keep the strix board. Overall better quality VRM's for OC'ing from what I'm told.

for a 3.5ghz oc? even the B350 plus will do fine. could go higher if he wanted.

[Gazebo]

4 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

the ram's overpriced, try this instead:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/DHPzK8/team-vulcan-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-tlgd416g3000hc16cdc01

much better ssd for the same price:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/KXkwrH/crucial-mx300-275gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct275mx300ssd4

that's alot of money for a B350 board. try this:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/fPDzK8/asus-prime-b350-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-b350-plus

Thanks for the suggestions about M.2 and the cheaper ram!

 

2 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

550W is enough

I pretty much agree with the RAM and SSD, but I'd keep the strix board. Overall better quality VRM's for OC'ing from what I'm told.

I read quite a few reviews on the B350 Prime Plus and there is an alarming amount of 1,2 star reviews. So that why I made the move the Strix board. (reviews on new egg and amazon)

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($259.99 @ Amazon Canada) see what coffee lake has to offer.
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($112.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($110.09 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($74.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB D5X Video Card  ($659.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Deepcool - DUKASE WHV2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ NCIX) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($44.99 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: Dell - S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($553.99 @ PC Canada) 
Total: $2121.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 10:10 EDT-0400

[Misanthrope]

The above recommendations overall. Also for your build 2 1440p@60hz this rig will do great but for 1080p@144hz I'd wait a few weeks for coffee lake since you're gonna need a bit more CPU IPC to achieve this more easily. On most games the Ryzen 1600 will do 144fps sure but not on the really intensive AAA games on those the 8600k will probably be a much better choice and it might be like a few weeks away.

[Gazebo]

4 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($259.99 @ Amazon Canada) see what coffee lake has to offer.
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($112.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($110.09 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($74.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB D5X Video Card  ($659.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Deepcool - DUKASE WHV2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ NCIX) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($44.99 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: Dell - S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($553.99 @ PC Canada) 
Total: $2121.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 10:10 EDT-0400

This is great! I was very unsure about the gigabyte cards. I always see people going with EVGA and that just what I naturally attracted to. 

[Gazebo]

8 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

The above recommendations overall. Also for your build 2 1440p@60hz this rig will do great but for 1080p@144hz I'd wait a few weeks for coffee lake since you're gonna need a bit more CPU IPC to achieve this more easily. On most games the Ryzen 1600 will do 144fps sure but not on the really intensive AAA games on those the 8600k will probably be a much better choice and it might be like a few weeks away.

I don't own a lot of AAA games but I do plan on getting Destiny 2 later. Thats kinda why I wanted to finally commit to build a pc is for that game. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, Gazebo said:

This is great! I was very unsure about the gigabyte cards. I always see people going with EVGA and that just what I naturally attracted to. 

don't buy based on the brand, any non-blower style gpu will do fine unless reviews say otherwise.

[Misanthrope]

Just now, Gazebo said:

I don't own a lot of AAA games but I do plan on getting Destiny 2 later. Thats kinda why I wanted to finally commit to build a pc is for that game. 

The Ryzen will do just fine for those. Even AAA games will probably be well over 100fps you might just need to lower some settings to reach 144fps

[Fardin]

Go with ryzen if 1440p 60hz is your target. & get coffelake for 1080p 144hz (must) .  

[Gazebo]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

don't buy based on the brand, any non-blower style gpu will do fine unless reviews say otherwise.

I didn't want to cheap on things like GPU, PSU, and Motherboard. So that is why I went with a EVGA FTW card but I did look at a more options like the  ROG STRIX and  MSI. 

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FYMyYr
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FYMyYr/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($259.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($106.25 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($74.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  ($884.99 @ PC Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ NCIX) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($47.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Monitor: Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($259.95 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $2018.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 10:29 EDT-0400

 

GTX 1080 Ti? 

[just_dave]

For 2K USD please get B350-F Strix

[just_dave]

21 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

550W is enough

I pretty much agree with the RAM and SSD, but I'd keep the strix board. Overall better quality VRM's for OC'ing from what I'm told.

Strix B350 is glorified Prime B350 with better features, mem support and SOC VRM, but the VCore VRM is the same.

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, dave_k said:

For 2K USD please get B350-F Strix

2K USD =/= 2.1K CAD

[just_dave]

Just now, JDE said:

2K USD =/= 2.1K CAD

Oh ok.

[LienusLateTips]

Since you live in BC, you don't want to buy stuff from Vuugo. $13/item to BC

[Gazebo]

7 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FYMyYr
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FYMyYr/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($259.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($106.25 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($74.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  ($884.99 @ PC Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ NCIX) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($47.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Monitor: Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($259.95 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $2018.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 10:29 EDT-0400

 

GTX 1080 Ti? 

I never really thought of a 1080ti but that might be a bit much for my taste. 

[Gazebo]

4 minutes ago, JDE said:

Since you live in BC, you don't want to buy stuff from Vuugo. $13/item to BC

Mostly I will buy off Amazon, NewEgg and NCIX

 

8 minutes ago, dave_k said:

Strix B350 is glorified Prime B350 with better features, mem support and SOC VRM, but the VCore VRM is the same.

I seen some videos about the mem support only going to 2133 on the prime board. 

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Gazebo said:

Mostly I will buy off Amazon, NewEgg and NCIX

DirectCanada is good ($6 flat rate for orders up to 15 lbs.) and memory express has locations in the lower mainland if you live in the lower mainland, or $7 flat rate

[Gazebo]

Just now, JDE said:

DirectCanada is good ($6 flat rate for orders up to 15 lbs.) and memory express has locations in the lower mainland if you live in the lower mainland, or $7 flat rate

 I do not live in the lower mainland but I am not far off only about 7 hours away or so. DC is another website I was looking at too. Seems like it could be worth it. I should mention I am aiming to buy alot of the things on black Friday cyber Monday in November 

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

2 minutes ago, Gazebo said:

I never really thought of a 1080ti but that might be a bit much for my taste. 

 

nah you'll find that 1080ti won't be enough after a year or so. Just like how the 980 Ti is right not 

 

Tweaked a few things but the same specs remain with a much more faster card. Faster performance at 0 cost, I find it hard you'll say no to that. 

But take your time ordering those parts. The prices would've probably changed a little by then.