Ryzen 1600x vs ryzen 1700 ANWSERED

[Pulverizer17]

Is it worth the 50$ jump from ryzen 1600x to ryzen 1700. i will be doing lots of fps gaming and video editing.

Stuff i want https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VfjrKZ

[Mooshi]

If you're doing lots of content creation, $50 is nothing compared to more cores to render with.

[Merp83]

ye and dont go for the 1600x ever only every in ryzen go for 1200, 1600, 1700 or 1800x

[just_dave]

And ur mobo? Just askin

[Fraser Cow]

I have a 1700 and I'm kinda disappointed, because I can't get it past 3.75 without putting the voltage over 1.4 volts. If you're doing more gaming than rendering you might be better off with the 4Ghz you'll get out of the box on the 1600X.

[Princess Luna]

Depends on what you need it for, a normal usage and gaming computer is fine with the r5 1600 as it most of the time equals the r5 1600x after overclocking, the 1600x is a waste of money with the only exception being you're those "need max all cost" kind of person and wanna really increase your chances it runs at perfect 4.0ghz stable.

 

if you intend to stream then the r7 1700 is justified since it gives excellent streaming quality superior to the mainstream i7 with quick sync igpu by all means at the same price point.

 

Either ways don't cheap up on motherboard for ryzen, get a reliable Asus or AsRock motherboard and Samsung B-Die 3200mhz ram, Ryzen sees great performance bump when running at 2933mhz or higher frequency it's ram.

[Cyracus]

for gaming it doesn't make much difference (unless you're streaming too) for rendering it's a fair bit better, kinda depends on how much you do though, a 10-20% time reduction makes a bigger difference if you do video editing every day vs just a few times a month

[Pulverizer17]

I will be doing lots of video editing! 

And  i don't care that much about overclocking!

 

7 hours ago, Fraser Cow said:

I have a 1700 and I'm kinda disappointed, because I can't get it past 3.75 without putting the voltage over 1.4 volts. If you're doing more gaming than rendering you might be better off with the 4Ghz you'll get out of the box on the 1600X.

I will be doing Half and half

7 hours ago, Cyracus said:

for gaming it doesn't make much difference (unless you're streaming too) for rendering it's a fair bit better, kinda depends on how much you do though, a 10-20% time reduction makes a bigger difference if you do video editing every day vs just a few times a month

Thank you

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VfjrKZ

 

7 hours ago, Mooshi said:

If you're doing lots of content creation, $50 is nothing compared to more cores to render with.

 

7 hours ago, Merp83 said:

ye and dont go for the 1600x ever only every in ryzen go for 1200, 1600, 1700 or 1800x

 

7 hours ago, dave_k said:

And ur mobo? Just askin

 

7 hours ago, Fraser Cow said:

I have a 1700 and I'm kinda disappointed, because I can't get it past 3.75 without putting the voltage over 1.4 volts. If you're doing more gaming than rendering you might be better off with the 4Ghz you'll get out of the box on the 1600X.

 

7 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Depends on what you need it for, a normal usage and gaming computer is fine with the r5 1600 as it most of the time equals the r5 1600x after overclocking, the 1600x is a waste of money with the only exception being you're those "need max all cost" kind of person and wanna really increase your chances it runs at perfect 4.0ghz stable.

 

if you intend to stream then the r7 1700 is justified since it gives excellent streaming quality superior to the mainstream i7 with quick sync igpu by all means at the same price point.

 

Either ways don't cheap up on motherboard for ryzen, get a reliable Asus or AsRock motherboard and Samsung B-Die 3200mhz ram, Ryzen sees great performance bump when running at 2933mhz or higher frequency it's ram.

 

7 hours ago, Cyracus said:

for gaming it doesn't make much difference (unless you're streaming too) for rendering it's a fair bit better, kinda depends on how much you do though, a 10-20% time reduction makes a bigger difference if you do video editing every day vs just a few times a month

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VfjrKZ

[Jon Jon]

7 hours ago, Fraser Cow said:

I have a 1700 and I'm kinda disappointed, because I can't get it past 3.75 without putting the voltage over 1.4 volts. If you're doing more gaming than rendering you might be better off with the 4Ghz you'll get out of the box on the 1600X.

Sounds like you just lost the silicon lottery.

 

Honestly, I don't see this as a deal breaker if he is doing content creation and gaming, even if he couldn't go passed 3.6ghz.

 

I mean, 1800X at stock is plenty for most everything.

 

I would also recommend a Ryzen Certified Memory Kit.

The one I am running in my signature just works.

[Pulverizer17]

7 hours ago, Mooshi said:

If you're doing lots of content creation, $50 is nothing compared to more cores to render with.

THAnk you

 

[Mooshi]

7 hours ago, Fraser Cow said:

I have a 1700 and I'm kinda disappointed, because I can't get it past 3.75 without putting the voltage over 1.4 volts. If you're doing more gaming than rendering you might be better off with the 4Ghz you'll get out of the box on the 1600X.

There is no 4GHz 'out of the box' with Ryzen. X or not, 4Ghz isn't guaranteed like it is on Intel.

[Cyracus]

12 minutes ago, Pulverizer17 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VfjrKZ

I've heard msi did really bad with ryzen, not sure if they fixed it, but I'd recommend something else. AMD was super confident in Asus at launch and gigabyte hasn't had any major stumbles to my knowledge

[Princess Luna]

18 minutes ago, Pulverizer17 said:

 

 

 

 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VfjrKZ

Awfully bad motherboard, that 212 evo is a waste as the stock cooler performs identically well.

 

Go stock cooler on an Asus Prime X370-PRO

[Fraser Cow]

9 hours ago, Mooshi said:

There is no 4GHz 'out of the box' with Ryzen. X or not, 4Ghz isn't guaranteed like it is on Intel.

The Ryzen 1600X has a base of 3.6 and a boost of 4.0 (I think it can do 4.1 with XFR) So if it's properly cooled you are guaranteed 4Ghz. With that being said, I still think it's worth the risk to buy a 1700 because you might get more lucky than me and get 3.9Ghz at 1.35 volts.

[Pulverizer17]

On 9/16/2017 at 12:03 AM, Princess Cadence said:

Awfully bad motherboard, that 212 evo is a waste as the stock cooler performs identically well.

 

Go stock cooler on an Asus Prime X370-PRO

Why is it bad? To all my knowledge this mobo is pretty good

[Pulverizer17]

3 minutes ago, Pulverizer17 said:

Why is it bad? To all my knowledge this mobo is pretty good

 

On 9/16/2017 at 9:25 AM, Fraser Cow said:

The Ryzen 1600X has a base of 3.6 and a boost of 4.0 (I think it can do 4.1 with XFR) So if it's properly cooled you are guaranteed 4Ghz. With that being said, I still think it's worth the risk to buy a 1700 because you might get more lucky than me and get 3.9Ghz at 1.35 volts.

 

On 9/16/2017 at 12:03 AM, Princess Cadence said:

Awfully bad motherboard, that 212 evo is a waste as the stock cooler performs identically well.

 

Go stock cooler on an Asus Prime X370-PRO

 

On 9/15/2017 at 11:59 PM, Cyracus said:

I've heard msi did really bad with ryzen, not sure if they fixed it, but I'd recommend something else. AMD was super confident in Asus at launch and gigabyte hasn't had any major stumbles to my knowledge

Sorry i put the the wrong part list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DpxgGf

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Pulverizer17 said:

Why is it bad? To all my knowledge this mobo is pretty good

MSi has the shittiest BIOS for the entire Ryzen line up and that's a fact... you'll face great deal of chance to hit a 2666mhz memory frequency wall with it.

[Pulverizer17]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

MSi has the shittiest BIOS for the entire Ryzen line up and that's a fact... you'll face great deal of chance to hit a 2666mhz memory frequency wall with it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DpxgGf

I put the wrong part list

[johndms]

On 9/16/2017 at 8:25 AM, Fraser Cow said:

The Ryzen 1600X has a base of 3.6 and a boost of 4.0 (I think it can do 4.1 with XFR) So if it's properly cooled you are guaranteed 4Ghz.

For clarification, I think when most want to hit 4GHz, they're implying 'on all cores'. Ryzen 5 1600X will boost to 4GHz, but only on two cores (Precision Boost), and XFR will boost one core to 4.1GHz if thermals permit. I do agree, however, a 1700 would be worth the extra $50 for video editing.

On 9/15/2017 at 10:49 PM, Jon Jon said:

I would also recommend a Ryzen Certified Memory Kit.

The one I am running in my signature just works.

Just curious, what model number ram kit?

[Phate.exe]

On 9/15/2017 at 4:41 PM, Merp83 said:

ye and dont go for the 1600x ever

Dude it costs like $20-30 more than a 1600.  Really not a big deal at all.

 

I already had the Cryorig H7, so I didn't care about a cooler that would end up sitting on a shelf unused.

 

With XFR it runs at 3.7/4.1.

 

Also to echo some of the other posts in this thread:  MSI's B350 boards are kinda trash.  Go with Asus or Asrock

[Jon Jon]

24 minutes ago, johndms said:

For clarification, I think when most want to hit 4GHz, they're implying 'on all cores'. Ryzen 5 1600X will boost to 4GHz, but only on two cores (Precision Boost), and XFR will boost one core to 4.1GHz if thermals permit. I do agree, however, a 1700 would be worth the extra $50 for video editing.

Just curious, what model number ram kit?

CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16

 

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