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Another live blog by Ian Cutress from Anadtech, this time it's all about IBM Z

 

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  • ... IBM z14 will be interesting
  • To clarify, the z series is IBM's mainframe product line
  • So this isn't POWER8 or POWER9
  • IBM's z-series has central processors and system control chips with integrated fabric and off-compute chip caches
  • This is under a 'mainframe' setup, rather than a standard CPU/co-processor setup.
  • A lot of mainframes still exist
  • Still used in large corporations for transactional data, e.g. credit card has a mainframe involved. 90% of airline booking systems involve mainframes
  • Run large databases and large virtualised linux
  • Have to make design decisions tailored for those workloads
  • z10 was high frequency, z196 had OoO, z13 had SMT and now z14
  • The mainframe uses two different chips - the CP (cores and shared L3) and SCP (large L4 and interconnect logic)
  • Two clusters of CP chips connect to the SC. Can connect four drawers together
  • CP and SC are large chips, 17 layer metal in 14nm SOI
  • 10 cores has private 2MB L2-i and 4MB L2-D and 128 MB shared L3
  • SC chip has 672MB of L4 and coherency logic
  • Up to 24 sockets int he system, 32 TB RAIM protected memory, 40 PCIe lane fanouts, 320 IO cards
  • New translation and TLB design over z13, and general pipeline optimations. Changes in instruction set too
  • Pauseless garbage collection for Java, single and quad vector precision for crypto
  • Register to register arithmatic
  • Optimizing for COBOL performance
  • Compression acceleration

 

 

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/11750/hot-chips-ibms-next-generation-z14-cpu-mainframe-live-blog-5pm-pt-12am-utc

 

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3 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

5.2 GHz? o.O 

Ibm has actually made faster chips in the past, at 5.5ghz.

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3 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

5.2 GHz? o.O 

They are WC'd so..

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I love working with the Z series. Some of the most awesome hardware you can deal with.

 

25 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

5.2 GHz? o.O 

That's not unheard of with IBM. Z13 had 8 cores with 4MB (2MB instruction/ 2MB data) of l2 cache per core and ran at 5ghz.

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Just now, Stefan1024 said:

 

And 500 watts per CPU ;)

 

Yolo

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43 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

5.2 GHz? o.O 

Yup. Super long pipelines allow for really high clocks on these things, albeit at the cost of power and heat.

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3 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Yup. Super long pipelines allow for really high clocks on these things, albeit at the cost of power and heat.

Fetch 6 and issue 10 per cycle.

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8 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

Fetch 6 and issue 10 per cycle.

Unfortunately, I do not know enough about comp arch to understand what the hell you just said xD 

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1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Unfortunately, I do not know enough about comp arch to understand what the hell you just said xD 

It's instruction queue can fetch 6 instructions per cycle and issue 10 instructions per cycle.

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1 minute ago, dexT said:

It's instruction queue can fetch 6 instructions per cycle and issue 10 instructions per cycle.

I think I know what that means?

 

The CPU core can fetch 6 instructions every cycle and issue 10 of them to be processed every cycle? But how exactly does it issue more instructions than it can fetch?

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CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter?

Laptop (I use it for school):

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Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050

And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb

 

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