My idea of new RIG/workstation

[Sanctorum]

24 minutes ago, Buzzsaw said:

Do you have any reliable (not from reddit crap) benchmarks to prove your point?

 

I have a feeling that you're going to have a "pie in your face" happening to you once you see the benchmarks.

Benchmarks for the 1900x? No, it hasn't released yet. However, we know how it will perform. It's an 8 core chip based on the Zen architecture with SMT. At the same clock speed, it will perform exactly the same as the R7 1700. In fact, the Threadripper parts are performing worse in some games than Ryzen 7, so the 1700 might even be BETTER for OP who is as he said himself, mainly gaming and doing "some video and photo editing". There's absolutely no reason to waste $525 getting a 1900x over the 1700 for the same performance, and it's not worth spending an extra $200 on top of that for the 1920x. The R7 1700 is MORE than adequate for OP.

 

51 minutes ago, Buzzsaw said:

To answer your question regarding the quad channel feature of RAM modules, as long the modules are installed in pairs, you will retain the quad channel feature.

If he only has 2 DIMM slots populated, they'll be running in dual channel, not quad. He'd need 4 DIMM slots populated and 4 unpopulated or all 8 populated to make use of quad channel.

52 minutes ago, Buzzsaw said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  (€357.07 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming K3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€142.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€699.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€166.50 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card  (€981.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Evolv ATX ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair - 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Monitor: LG - 34UC79G-B 34.0" 2560x1080 144Hz Monitor  (€489.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2838.44

That motherboard does not have SLI support. 1700x isn't worth the premium over the 1700. 700 euros for 16GB RAM, is that a joke?

[Badcat]

What about the SLI support? Do you think having 2x16 PCIe lanes could make the difference?

 

P.S. Forget prices at Amazon Italia, I can find online stoes with better prices, like US ones

[Sanctorum]

4 hours ago, Badcat said:

What about the SLI support? Do you think having 2x16 PCIe lanes could make the difference?

Not for $525, no. With the R7 1700, you'll be running x8/x8 with SLI. Benchmarks show there is very little difference, if any between x8 and x16.

 

1 hour ago, Buzzsaw said:

Again... regarding the processor benchmarks, what are you basing this on? Did some little blue bird tell you this?

Are you kidding? I literally spelled it out for you. A basic understanding of CPU microarchitecture told me this. It's a well known fact that RYZEN Threadripper is the same Zen architecture used for the mainstream Ryzen CPUs. The 1900x is basically the same thing as the 7740x on X299. The 7740x makes no sense but the 1900x COULD make sense in certain situations, just not this one. Since we know the 1900x is the same architecture as the 1700, and has the same number of cores/threads, we KNOW that clock for clock, they'll perform identically. Real benchmarks of the 1920x and 1950x show them losing to R7 in many games. 

1 hour ago, Buzzsaw said:

In regards to the memory module placement... dual versus quad. For most applications, the benchmarks don't really make a ton of difference in terms of performance.

I never said a thing about performance differences between dual channel and quad channel. Its irrelevant. You said;

"as long the modules are installed in pairs, you will retain the quad channel feature."

which is wrong. If you have a pair(2) of RAM sticks in a system with quad channel support, you won't be making use of quad channel, like you claimed.

[Badcat]

According to the following video it seems that for some games there is a difference between SLI 8x8 and 16x16. 

 

[Guest]

14 hours ago, Buzzsaw said:

Now that I have more information on where you live and your budget, I have made more adjustments and used Amazon Italia as your vendor.

 

Also, PCPartpicker does have the Italia option now.

 

To answer your question regarding the quad channel feature of RAM modules, as long the modules are installed in pairs, you will retain the quad channel feature.That's why it is optimal to pair your memory modules with the exact same BUS speed to maximize the speed of the modules.

Also, the motherboard has to be able to accept those module BUS speeds, too. (which it does)

This motherboard does have 4 module slots, so, you must match all 4 memory module BUS speeds to get the optimal performance out of those RAM modules...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  (€357.07 @ Amazon Italia) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming K3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€142.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€699.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€166.50 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card  (€981.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Evolv ATX ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair - 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Monitor: LG - 34UC79G-B 34.0" 2560x1080 144Hz Monitor  (€489.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €2838.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-13 23:23 CEST+0200

Why are you speccing the 1700X over the 1700 or 1600 ? The 6 core R5 1600 would be perfectly fine for the op's needs i.e mainly gaming with a bit of editing.

 

You included a kit of Ram that costs 700 Euros ? Are you freaking serious ? Is it made of solid Platinum ?

 

The SATA version of the MX300 is cheaper. Don't fill the M.2 slot with an SSD unless it is a fast NVMe one like the Samsung 960 EVO.

 

Crap choice of monitor which is also Freesync i.e Pretty pointless if you have an Nvidia gpu. If you were not spending 700 Euros on Ram then you would have more money for a better screen that is a G-Sync.

[DocSwag]

2 hours ago, Buzzsaw said:

The Ryzen Threadripper is using a different architecture than the Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 are using. 

Threadripper is literally using two zeppelin dies, the same dies used in ryzen 3, 5, and 7. How is it a different architecture? 

[Badcat]

Hmmmm... I think to keep my i7 4770K till the end of the year and then decide.

 

Currently AMD architecture needs some more improvments (bios updates, programming, etc..) before showing its real potential.

 

In the meantime Intel Coffelakes will show up as well, so lets see.

[airdeano]

to all thinking they are in this arguement, enough innuendo on 'how smart others are/are not' when commenting in these posts. make your point and leave it at that. can't make the discussion on merits or data and resort to intelligence legitimacy ain't gunna happen here. keep it to facts and published data or do not reply. another sideways comment and we'll understand why you could not make it back to the forums.