$1600 CAD Build for my brother (NOW $1.5k)

[LienusLateTips]

31 minutes ago, randomperson89 said:

I'm trying to ask him to extend the budget by $50, but this is all I can get now:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.33 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($112.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($90.38 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($123.45 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($61.86 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($406.78 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($75.69 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($73.43 @ Newegg Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($166.08 @ NCIX) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($50.83 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: Asus - VP228H 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($163.83 @ Newegg Canada) 
Keyboard: Logitech - G910 Orion Spark Wired Gaming Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Other: SteelSeries Mouse (Don't Know Model) (Purchased)
Total: $1554.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-06 13:49 EDT-0400

Please, spend a few more dollars on a motherboard. $3-5 dollars will do.

[randomperson89]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

Please, spend a few more dollars on a motherboard. $3-5 dollars will do.

K

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.33 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($115.24 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($90.38 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($123.45 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($61.86 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($406.78 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($75.69 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($73.43 @ Newegg Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($166.08 @ NCIX) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($50.83 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: Asus - VP228H 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($163.83 @ Newegg Canada) 
Keyboard: Logitech - G910 Orion Spark Wired Gaming Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Other: SteelSeries Mouse (Don't Know Model) (Purchased)
Total: $1556.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-06 14:23 EDT-0400

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, randomperson89 said:

K

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.33 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($115.24 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($90.38 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($123.45 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($61.86 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($406.78 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($75.69 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($73.43 @ Newegg Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($166.08 @ NCIX) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($50.83 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: Asus - VP228H 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($163.83 @ Newegg Canada) 
Keyboard: Logitech - G910 Orion Spark Wired Gaming Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Other: SteelSeries Mouse (Don't Know Model) (Purchased)
Total: $1556.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-06 14:23 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($209.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($117.57 @ DirectCanada) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($359.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($146.98 @ NCIX) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($44.99 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: Asus - VP228H 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Keyboard: Logitech - G910 Orion Spark Wired Gaming Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Other: SteelSeries Mouse (Don't Know Model) (Purchased)
Total: $1409.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-06 14:24 EDT-0400

[randomperson89]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($209.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($117.57 @ DirectCanada) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($359.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($146.98 @ NCIX) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($44.99 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: Asus - VP228H 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Keyboard: Logitech - G910 Orion Spark Wired Gaming Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Other: SteelSeries Mouse (Don't Know Model) (Purchased)
Total: $1409.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-06 14:24 EDT-0400

Seems too expensive, but my brother is trying a way to make it work. He's just waiting for the government to give him his final paycheck

[seagate_surfer]

It seems like some of the builds here are trying their best to fit in an SSD, but in some places it is problematic, forcing hard concessions in other areas of the build which are being responded to as hard to swallow, etc. SSD is definitely top of the line for performance, but as we are seeing here, the cost can be an issue when trying to make the budget work. One potential solution to consider would be an SSHD, or Solid-State Hybrid Drive (current Seagate branding: Firecuda - http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/hdd/firecuda/). These drives are engineered to provide the best of both worlds by utilizing a small SSD cache intuitively for your most frequently accessed data, and also still have a larger capacity spinning storage space for the rest of your data so that you still get a good amount of storage for your buck.

If you're interested in seeing how these drives stack up, here are a couple charts to check out:

The first one compares startup times across several popular games on a traditional spinning 7200 RPM HDD, our SSHD, and an M.2 SSD (128GB). The white is for SSD, the orange is for our SSHD, and the gray is for the 7200 spinning HDD.

Startup Times: http://imgur.com/a/w3J2N

 

The next one compares the first 3 days of gaming storage utilization across several popular titles, and SYSmark ratings from various drive types and combinations. First of the grays is 7200 RPM 1TB spinning HDD, second (lightest gray) is our SSHD, third (darkest gray) is an SSD + 7200 RPM HDD combo, purple is SSD + our SSHD combo, and lastly blue is SSD.

First 3 Days Gaming Storage Utilization: http://imgur.com/a/uMSuM

Thank you for considering Seagate, regardless of which drive(s) you decide to go with in the end!

 

Edited August 7, 2017 by seagate_surfer
Removed formatting as per request

[LienusLateTips]

32 minutes ago, seagate_surfer said:

It seems like some of the builds here are trying their best to fit in an SSD, but in some places it is problematic, forcing hard concessions in other areas of the build which are being responded to as hard to swallow, etc. SSD is definitely top of the line for performance, but as we are seeing here, the cost can be an issue when trying to make the budget work. One potential solution to consider would be an SSHD, or Solid-State Hybrid Drive (current Seagate branding: FireCuda). These drives are engineered to provide the best of both worlds by utilizing a small SSD cache intuitively for your most frequently accessed data, and also still have a larger capacity spinning storage space for the rest of your data so that you still get a good amount of storage for your buck.

If you're interested in seeing how these drives stack up, here are a couple charts to check out:

The first one compares startup times across several popular games on a traditional spinning 7200 RPM HDD, our SSHD, and an M.2 SSD (128GB). The white is for SSD, the orange is for our SSHD, and the gray is for the 7200 spinning HDD.

Startup Times

The next one compares the first 3 days of gaming storage utilization across several popular titles, and SYSmark ratings from various drive types and combinations. First of the grays is 7200 RPM 1TB spinning HDD, second (lightest gray) is our SSHD, third (darkest gray) is an SSD + 7200 RPM HDD combo, purple is SSD + our SSHD combo, and lastly blue is SSD.

First 3 Days Gaming Storage Utilization

Thank you for considering Seagate, regardless of which drive(s) you decide to go with in the end!

Please, remove formatting!

 

We do know that the FireCuda line exist, however I wouldn't buy it over a hard drive...

[randomperson89]

On 8/7/2017 at 5:26 PM, JDE said:

Please, remove formatting!

 

We do know that the FireCuda line exist, however I wouldn't buy it over a hard drive...

Same.

It's claiming that the FireCuda can replace the SSD and HDD, but it's more 99% HDD, 1% SSD, and more expensive. WHY DA HELL WOULD I WANT THAT?

If I wanted to waste money, I would've bought a Mac.

[Shura]

On 04/08/2017 at 9:54 AM, randomperson89 said:

EDIT: Where I'm from, Ontario, the tax is 13% (So $1327.43 before taxes)

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/trBXwV
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/trBXwV/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($265.75 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ NCIX) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: ADATA - Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ DirectCanada) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.75 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card  ($354.50 @ Vuugo) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.98 @ NCIX) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($35.00) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($44.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case Fan: Corsair - SP120 57.2 CFM  120mm Fan  ($7.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Keyboard: Logitech - G610 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($124.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $1349.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-08 23:58 EDT-0400

[randomperson89]

12 hours ago, Shura said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/trBXwV
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/trBXwV/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($265.75 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ NCIX) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: ADATA - Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ DirectCanada) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.75 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card  ($354.50 @ Vuugo) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.98 @ NCIX) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($35.00) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($44.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case Fan: Corsair - SP120 57.2 CFM  120mm Fan  ($7.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Keyboard: Logitech - G610 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($124.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $1349.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-08 23:58 EDT-0400

you didn't read my update, it now requires a monitor, instead of a keyboard (cuz my brother bought a g910)

AND NO OEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shura]

8 hours ago, randomperson89 said:

you didn't read my update, it now requires a monitor, instead of a keyboard (cuz my brother bought a g910)

AND NO OEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

While I didn't read the part about the monitor, I think it's a waste of money not going OEM. You are paying almost 3x more for what? So called Microsoft Tech support? He'll probably spend hours on the phone only to be told to restart his PC or clear temporary files. This also isn't 1995 where the OS will hang every other day, I can't remember the last time my OS crashed due to OS issues. At the end of the day it's your money so you can spend it how you want; Here is a build Monitor and Retail for your budget.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jFWxBP
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jFWxBP/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($264.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($128.07 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.75 @ shopRBC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card  ($369.50 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($116.50 @ Vuugo)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($44.99 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Corsair - SP120 57.2 CFM  120mm Fan  ($7.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Monitor: Acer - G226HQLBbd 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1316.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-09 20:58 EDT-0400

[brob]

3 hours ago, Shura said:

While I didn't read the part about the monitor, I think it's a waste of money not going OEM. You are paying almost 3x more for what? So called Microsoft Tech support? He'll probably spend hours on the phone only to be told to restart his PC or clear temporary files. This also isn't 1995 where the OS will hang every other day, I can't remember the last time my OS crashed due to OS issues. At the end of the day it's your money so you can spend it how you want; Here is a build Monitor and Retail for your budget.

...

The Windows 10 OEM license does not allow its use in DIY builds.

[Shura]

2 minutes ago, brob said:

The Windows 10 OEM license does not allow its use in DIY builds.

While the Windows TOS is against it, it's very common practice among DIY builders to use OEM keys. Especially when you can get Windows 10 Pro OEM for $30 from sites like kinguin. Other than losing Microsoft tech support, Microsoft has taken no action again DIY builds that do use OEM. From there I guess it's up to the builders if they want to go down that path or not. 

[brob]

Just now, Shura said:

While the Windows TOS is against it, it's very common practice among DIY builders to use OEM keys. Especially when you can get Windows 10 Pro OEM for $30 from sites like kinguin. Other than losing Microsoft tech support, Microsoft has taken no action again DIY builds that do use OEM. From there I guess it's up to the builders if they want to go down that path or not. 

 

Some earlier versions of Windows did allow OEM license use in DIY builds.

 

Regardless of what a licenser does to enforce its rights, using software in direct contravention of the license is theft.

[Shura]

9 minutes ago, brob said:

 

Some earlier versions of Windows did allow OEM license use in DIY builds.

 

Regardless of what a licenser does to enforce its rights, using software in direct contravention of the license is theft.

Again while I admit the use of OEM keys on DIY build is against TOS, trying to paint the TOS in terms of black and white can become muddy in the DIY community. A lot of things this community challenges itself with, such as BIOS modding, overclocking on locked CPUs, physical parts modding and even use of certain software mods are against most of the original TOS for said products. OEM keys are against TOS just like Hackintosh, will the company come after you for using it? most likely not.

[randomperson89]

9 hours ago, Shura said:

Again while I admit the use of OEM keys on DIY build is against TOS, trying to paint the TOS in terms of black and white can become muddy in the DIY community. A lot of things this community challenges itself with, such as BIOS modding, overclocking on locked CPUs, physical parts modding and even use of certain software mods are against most of the original TOS for said products. OEM keys are against TOS just like Hackintosh, will the company come after you for using it? most likely not.

Better safe than sorry mate.

[sun2]

16 hours ago, Shura said:

While I didn't read the part about the monitor, I think it's a waste of money not going OEM. You are paying almost 3x more for what? So called Microsoft Tech support? He'll probably spend hours on the phone only to be told to restart his PC or clear temporary files. This also isn't 1995 where the OS will hang every other day, I can't remember the last time my OS crashed due to OS issues. At the end of the day it's your money so you can spend it how you want; Here is a build Monitor and Retail for your budget.

 

Yeah exactly the price is ridiculous. And the type of support you get is not worth it and cant be justified, they can do very little from a distance. Nobody in his right mind would pay for that type of support. Heck i can tell from experience that they mostly use students for the support lines as well. Although ive seen some good support on a company level, but the consumer support is a joke..

 

And the OEM versions never gave any trouble. As long you didnt resell it and use it for your system build. And my seller even encouraged it. And ive never seen MS going after OEM versions for improper use. Thats like the worst advertisment you can have of a product.

[randomperson89]

1 hour ago, sun2 said:

Yeah exactly the price is ridiculous. And the type of support you get is not worth it and cant be justified, they can do very little from a distance. Nobody in his right mind would pay for that type of support. Heck i can tell from experience that they mostly use students for the support lines as well. Although ive seen some good support on a company level, but the consumer support is a joke..

 

And the OEM versions never gave any trouble. As long you didnt resell it and use it for your system build. And my seller even encouraged it. And ive never seen MS going after OEM versions for improper use. Thats like the worst advertisment you can have of a product.

But if I (or he) will have to RMA any part, there how's $200 down the drain.

[randomperson89]

My brother is visiting me on the 17th. So I have to buy the processor ASAP (but if I miss the deal, Amazon's price isn't that bad).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.33 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($120.89 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($90.38 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: ADATA - Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($124.28 @ DirectCanada) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($61.86 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($429.38 @ Memory Express) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($67.78 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($67.78 @ Memory Express) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($151.40 @ PC Canada) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($50.83 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($146.88 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1540.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 15:21 EDT-0400

[sun2]

16 minutes ago, randomperson89 said:

But if I (or he) will have to RMA any part, there how's $200 down the drain.

Dont think i follow. What exact problem would you run into with a RMA then?

[randomperson89]

1 hour ago, sun2 said:

Dont think i follow. What exact problem would you run into with a RMA then?

Anything is possible.

[Shura]

2 hours ago, randomperson89 said:

Anything is possible.

I don't follow either,  No company is going to deny RMA because you used a OEM key, never heard of such a thing. I personally rather use the $100 saved to get a 1600 instead of a 1400 but that's me. At the end of the day it's your money and you should go with the option you are most comfortable with. 

 

Made some adjustments, I would forgo the SSD for the time being. It's easy to add later and there would be no loss. If you go with a weaker cpu/GPU now and upgrade later, you lose money you initially spent. Forgoing the SSD now might mean a bit slower load times in games and programs but greater performance once loaded; just my two cents. 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vTTv9W
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vTTv9W/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($264.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($107.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.75 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($379.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($51.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($133.99 @ PC Canada) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($44.99 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1308.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 19:00 EDT-0400

[randomperson89]

On 10/08/2017 at 0:24 AM, brob said:

 

Some earlier versions of Windows did allow OEM license use in DIY builds.

 

Regardless of what a licenser does to enforce its rights, using software in direct contravention of the license is theft.

Since I can only trust you and JDE. How is this build?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.33 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($115.24 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($112.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: ADATA - Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($124.28 @ DirectCanada) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($61.86 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card  ($429.38 @ Memory Express) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($75.69 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($67.78 @ Memory Express) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($152.53 @ PC Canada) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($50.83 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($146.88 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1566.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-11 13:54 EDT-0400

[randomperson89]

11 hours ago, Leshya said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($264.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($174.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ PC Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($77.25 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB 6GT OC Video Card  ($362.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.99 @ DirectCanada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1Wi-Fi Adapter  ($44.99 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1423.67

 

$35 more on PCPR our builds compare at these prices and you get the following;

$1423.67 vs $1386.81

 

a six core twelve thread R5 1600

16GB 3200MHz DDR4 Ram

GTX1060 6GB
A tier 1 gold efficiency power supply.
 

 

Wayyyyy over budget.

[Serpius]

20 minutes ago, randomperson89 said:

Wayyyyy over budget.

Wayyyy stupid. 

 

You're calling other people's computer builds wayyy over budget, but yet you keep on providing your computer builds that are already wayyyy over budget.

 

Explain yourself.

[randomperson89]

9 minutes ago, Buzzsaw said:

Wayyyy stupid. 

 

You're calling other people's computer builds wayyy over budget, but yet you keep on providing your computer builds that are already wayyyy over budget.

 

Explain yourself.

Did you read every single comment in this? Did I forget to mention that the budget might be extended $50-75, but still TBA.