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Should I wait for Threadripper or go ahead with 1700x/1800x?

jonnyyyl
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I'm in the process of planning my next build. I'm leaning towards AMD this time because of the much better productivity scores. 1800x has been particularly impressive on this front. But with the new threadripper coming along, should I wait? 

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Do you plan on doing heavy content creation

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5 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Do you plan on doing heavy content creation

Yes, very heavy excel, running trading software such as bloomberg and interactive brokers 24/7, which uses a lot of RAM, frequent use of photoshop and autoCAD/sketchup, a lot of Chrome and Firefox. 

 

 

side question, do 1800x and threadripper support ECC memory? can the benefits be tangibly felt?

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Get a 1700 and spend the money you saved on max level RAM.

Want to custom loop?  Ask me more if you are curious

 

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1 minute ago, jonnyyyl said:

Yes, very heavy excel, running trading software such as bloomberg and interactive brokers 24/7, which uses a lot of RAM, frequent use of photoshop and autoCAD/sketchup, a lot of Chrome and Firefox. 

 

Yeah I would wait. Seeing the Asus gaming boards it looks really good

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At this point it wouldn't hurt to wait.

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If you can wait you should but if you need a system now just get Ryzen 7

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13 minutes ago, jonnyyyl said:

Yes, very heavy excel, running trading software such as bloomberg and interactive brokers 24/7, which uses a lot of RAM, frequent use of photoshop and autoCAD/sketchup, a lot of Chrome and Firefox. 

 

 

side question, do 1800x and threadripper support ECC memory? can the benefits be tangibly felt?

1800X doesn't support ECC. No news on if Threadripper does. Note though that Threadripper is probably going to cost $1000+

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8 minutes ago, Max_Settings said:

1800X doesn't support ECC. No news on if Threadripper does. Note though that Threadripper is probably going to cost $1000+

Cheapest one is confirmed to be 800 and top of the line one is 1000, not over.

 

Other than that I concur with the others: I'd wait like 2 weeks for Threadripper reviews at least.

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38 minutes ago, jonnyyyl said:

I'm in the process of planning my next build. I'm leaning towards AMD this time because of the much better productivity scores. 1800x has been particularly impressive on this front. But with the new threadripper coming along, should I wait? 

You planning to pay $800-$1000 for a cpu, plus even more for a X399 MB?

 

All these, "should I wait" threads, like the prices are similar or something..

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20 minutes ago, Max_Settings said:

1800X doesn't support ECC. No news on if Threadripper does. Note though that Threadripper is probably going to cost $1000+

ECC is not validated for consumer clients. It works just fine however.

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1 hour ago, BuckGup said:

Yeah I would wait. Seeing the Asus gaming boards it looks really good

Whens it coming out bruh?

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12 minutes ago, yathis said:

Whens it coming out bruh?

Soon. As Alienware has PCs already with threadripper in them up for pre order and they showed them off.

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3 hours ago, Skizzy_34 said:

You planning to pay $800-$1000 for a cpu, plus even more for a X399 MB?

 

All these, "should I wait" threads, like the prices are similar or something..

You've got a point. It's a case of apples and oranges.

The price part, I honestly dont mind. I've always wanted to use a x99 chip over the years and have been holding off because I balked at the price, couldn't be bothered, because the workstation is running smoothly. But lately, at idle, my CPU is running at 40%, and RAM is 60% of 32GB, simply because I have so many things opened at the same time, and I actually run/use them. 

 

The latest intel offerings look good on paper but terrible by price point. But I've saved up enough and am able to afford a x299, I want to make the most out of the latest technology. It's a lot of money and I want it to go on for a couple few years. 

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Simple. What's your budget? If it's over 700$ for the cpu, then wait. 

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8 hours ago, jonnyyyl said:

trading software such as bloomberg and interactive brokers 24/7

This software is really expensive. Where do you get hooked up with this?

I gamble in sports because the returns are better than stock trading w/fees.

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Wait as it will not hurt then you can quantify cost for performance between the platforms you're considering, I have the 1800x and it is great at heavy multithread work loads on my triple monitor setup I can't imagine what threadripper will do over that but take it from someone who has the 1800x that the 1700 overclocked will get you same or similar performance over the 1800x. Since you mentioned day trading/stock you can put that savings into more monitors, graphics cards or ram which is still running high in price.

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15 hours ago, yathis said:

Whens it coming out bruh?

Alienware PC's with threadripper go on preorder on the 27th, so pretty darn soon.

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Ryzen peeps had it only a week before launch for reviews iirc and X399 at least is in reviewers hands now so.

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16 hours ago, mrbilky said:

Wait as it will not hurt then you can quantify cost for performance between the platforms you're considering, I have the 1800x and it is great at heavy multithread work loads on my triple monitor setup I can't imagine what threadripper will do over that but take it from someone who has the 1800x that the 1700 overclocked will get you same or similar performance over the 1800x. Since you mentioned day trading/stock you can put that savings into more monitors, graphics cards or ram which is still running high in price.

I saw the stats for 1700X, great workstation cpu. Shame it doesn't 4.5ghz hahahah

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