Im tired of My PC

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

can it be a software glitch? 

From not being able turn on? Unless the BIOS is corrupted I don't see how. The thing would at least turn on. 

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Nohemi said:

I have another cpu and tested it and it still doesn't boot

Well with that information we can deduce that its a Mobo issue or a PSU issue. 

[SamirSquare]

It could be  possible that the motherboard is shorting out on something inside the case. 

[burnttoastnice]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

From not being able turn on? Unless the BIOS is corrupted I don't see how. The thing would at least turn on. 

If the BIOS is corrupted the system will still turn on and stay on. It just won't do anything when it gets to the BIOS stage where the display turns on

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, SamirSquare said:

It could be  possible that the motherboard is shorting out on something inside the case. 

And with he fan issues at the start, its only gotten worse. 

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, burnttoastnice said:

If the BIOS is corrupted the system will still turn on and stay on. It just won't do anything when it gets to the BIOS stage where the display turns on

So we can definitely say, I think, that its either an issue with the Mobo circuitry or the PSU since OP has illuminated CPU failure. 

 

Its unfortunate OP cannot test the PSU under load on another system.

[AustinJ]

It takes my computer like 3-5 times to start up from a fresh power up. I think it is a bad mobo. Have you tried power cycling it on several times?

[burnttoastnice]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

So we can definitely say, I think, that its either an issue with the Mobo circuitry or the PSU since OP has illuminated CPU failure. 

 

Its unfortunate OP cannot test the PSU under load on another system.

I think it's the motherboard, since OP's psu is rather overkill for his rig. A load test of the PSU on another system would defo clarify whether it's a variable or not, since if he's using the PC in a hot place the caps might have dried out or something (effectively reducing its max wattage)

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, burnttoastnice said:

I think it's the motherboard, since OP's psu is rather overkill for his rig. A load test of the PSU on another system would defo clarify whether it's a variable or not, since if he's using the PC in a hot place the caps might have dried out or something (effectively reducing its max wattage)

An EVGA PSU is usually pretty solid, so I would be willing to put money on that its the Mobo. 

 

Think it might be time for a Ryzen upgrade? ?

[Nohemi]

4 minutes ago, AustinJ said:

It takes my computer like 3-5 times to start up from a fresh power up. I think it is a bad mobo. Have you tried power cycling it on several times?

what is power cycling, if that means unplugging and plugging, yes 

[AustinJ]

1 minute ago, Nohemi said:

what is power cycling, if that means unplugging and plugging, yes 

Ah well the little lcd panel on mine doesn't light up but the fans spin as normal. I just hit the switch on the power supply and try again. After a couple times of doing this the motherboard decides to work and I am good. But yeah I'd bet it is the motherboard.

[Nohemi]

3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

An EVGA PSU is usually pretty solid, so I would be willing to put money on that its the Mobo. 

 

Think it might be time for a Ryzen upgrade? ?

maybe, it kinda sucks that my first build was a failure. The PC had problems from the start. Maybe I did something wrong when building it?

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Nohemi said:

maybe, it kinda sucks that my first build was a failure. The PC had problems from the start. Maybe I did something wrong when building it?

Its possible. It could just be a piece of lint tho.

[Nohemi]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Its possible. It could just be a piece of lint tho.

yeah, it is pretty dusty, but the problems where there when it was clean too

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Nohemi said:

yeah, it is pretty dusty, but the problems where there when it was clean too

then its donezo m8y

[Nohemi]

11 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

then its donezo m8y

I was going to say "why did this happen to me," but then I thought... "people are starving in third world countries. " So now I am just going to suck it up and think of it as an opportunity for an upgrade even though I have been using this computer for only like 6 months on and off

 

[Nohemi]

33 minutes ago, SamirSquare said:

It could be  possible that the motherboard is shorting out on something inside the case. 

I checked and it doesn't look like it. I think Microcenter just sold me a faulty part

[ArcThanatos]

47 minutes ago, Nohemi said:

Hi

So my PC hasn't been working for like 2 months. I built it a year ago, but it always had problems turning on. Now, when I try turning on my PC, one fan starts to spin for only one second and then it stops. The other fan doesn't spin at all. I know it isn't the power supply because it turns on on its own. I think there is something wrong with my motherboard. Should I go to a computer repair shop for diagnostics or just buy a new motherboard?

Thanks

Much LOVE

umm ok so what have you tried ??. there are a few things it could be, CPU could be dead, or having issues, the PSU could have kicked it or ya mobo, if it was RAM u would have alot of beeping, but it doesn't seem from what you say, to be getting the signal for powering on properly

 

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, ArcThanatos said:

umm ok so what have you tried ??. there are a few things it could be, CPU could be dead, or having issues, the PSU could have kicked it or ya mobo, if it was RAM u would have alot of beeping, but it doesn't seem from what you say, to be getting the signal for powering on properly

 

please read the other page and this one. A lot of deduction has already happened. No need to repeat it. 

[Nohemi]

Just now, ArcThanatos said:

umm ok so what have you tried ??. there are a few things it could be, CPU could be dead, or having issues, the PSU could have kicked it or ya mobo, if it was RAM u would have alot of beeping, but it doesn't seem from what you say, to be getting the signal for powering on properly

 

I tried a differnet CPU: still doesn't work

I tested the PSU with the paperclip method: it works on its own, but not plugged into my rig

I tried rubbing its belly and praying to God: still doesn't work

I am convinced it is the motherboard

[ArcThanatos]

yeah, that is pretty much it, i had the same issues some yrs ago, you could always last ditch effort try a cmos clear, but yeah looks like u could be in the market for a new mobo

[Nohemi]

7 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

please read the other page and this one. A lot of deduction has already happened. No need to repeat it. 

Here is what I am thinking in terms of upgrading:

Option 1:

Refurbished Mobo

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABVR4UC1208&cm_re=MSI_motherboard_PC_mate-_-9SIABVR4UC1208-_-Product

 

Option 2:

 cheaping out on Mobo since I have a Pentium (would I still be able to overclock?)

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130731&cm_re=lga1150_Motherboard-_-13-130-731-_-Product

 

Option 3: 

upgrading Ryzen

I dunno what parts to get

Edit: I have like around $140 

Please tell me if I can find something cheaper. I tried PC partpicker but they seem to show limited options for LGA 1150 sockets 

[Nohemi]

5 minutes ago, ArcThanatos said:

yeah, that is pretty much it, i had the same issues some yrs ago, you could always last ditch effort try a cmos clear, but yeah looks like u could be in the market for a new mobo

yeah....

[burnttoastnice]

1 minute ago, Nohemi said:

Here is what I am thinking in terms of upgrading:

Option 1:

Refurbished Mobo

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABVR4UC1208&cm_re=MSI_motherboard_PC_mate-_-9SIABVR4UC1208-_-Product

 

Option 2:

 cheaping out on Mobo since I have a Pentium (would I still be able to overclock?)

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130731&cm_re=lga1150_Motherboard-_-13-130-731-_-Product

 

Option 3: 

upgrading Ryzen

I dunno what parts to get

 

If you're going to get a H81 based motherboard for your Pentium, bare in mind that some H81 motherboards don't allow overclocking. Do a quick search to find the ones that do

 

7 minutes ago, Nohemi said:

I tested the PSU with the paperclip method: it works on its own, but not plugged into my rig

Try force the system to turn on. I don't recommend this, but try to paperclip-start the PSU while its plugged into the mobo and see if the system powers up.

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, Nohemi said:

upgrading Ryzen

This is my personal recommendation. 

 

You would need DDR4, a Ryzen CPU, and a new AM4 Mobo. But this is certainly not the cheapest option. 

 

The cheapest option is a cheap mobo.